Moses blows away Newcastle

I’m going to try something a little bit different for this match report, such is my anger at witnessing what I’ve just seen.

Quite simply we were outplayed at Wigan and deserved to lose heavily. I have no complaints, certainly with regard to Wigan anyway. Hats off to them.

However what I can complain about is the sheer lack of anything from our players. They’ve looked unbeatable in recent weeks, but today was a whole different story. It looked as though they’d all been out on the drink last night and had forgot who each other was. There was absolutely nothing today to give them credit for.

Do I feel bad about being so harsh on the players who have got us to Europe? Not one bit. They were awful and deserve the bulk of the flack for this defeat. People will cry tactics in an attempt to sound knowledgeable, but the fact is that the best tactics in the world would have been undone by the incompetence of our own players to today.

Two goals from Victor Moses gave Wigan an early lead before further strikes from Shaun Maloney and Franco Di Santo left the home side 4-0 up at half-time. It was game over then although I will give the players at least some credit for trying in the second half, even though that is the minimum I expect!

So what now? Chelsea away where I would hope we put on a better show than we did today. We’ve had a stunning season and this result shouldn’t detract from that, but if plaudits are going to be dished out and received by players and manager then they should also be prepared for criticism when it is deserved. And today it is deserved!

It’s more than likely going to be the end of our Champions League dream, even though I never thought we’d make it anyway. Still stranger things have happened and there is still a lot of football to be played so you never know.

Based on today though I wouldn’t get any hopes up!

Wigan: Ali Al Habsi, Antolin Alcaraz, Emmerson Boyce, Gary Caldwell, Maynor Figueroa, Shaun Maloney, James McCarthy, James McArthur, Victor Moses, Jean Beausejour, Franco Di Santo

Subs: Mike Pollitt, Albert Crusat, Jordi Gomez, Connor Sammon, David Jones, Hugo Rodallega, Mohamed Diame

Newcastle: Tim Krul, Danny Simpson, Mike Williamson, Fabricio Coloccini, Davide Santon, Cheik Tiote, Jonas Gutierrez, Yohan Cabaye, Hatem Ben Arfa, Papiss Cisse, Demba Ba

Subs: Rob Elliot, James Perch, Shane Ferguson, Ryan Taylor, Dan Gosling, Shola Ameobi, Leon Best

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108 Comments

  1. 1
    Newkie says:

    The only thing I’d have a go at Wigan for was the persistant fouling of our players when we went on a break, or even when our strikers received the ball with back to goal they got smashed over,and I thought one or two Wigan players could have seen red.

    Having said that-we should have known their game plan-they’re the top foulers for a reason, we should have researched this and had a plan, and we didn’t. Also, we weren’t exactly angels ourselves, well, Tiote wasn’t anyway.

    Other than that, just a shameful performance for all players involved. Colo seemed to have a decent game and I’ll probably have a look if he had any involvement in any of our goals. So yeah, Colo and possibly Benny could escape scrutiny. Anyway yeah, terrible performance all round (not just Simmo and Willo, as I’m sure will be claimed in some comments on this post….)

  2. 2
    Newkie says:

    Oh, and worst performances? Probably Tiote, Krul and Santon. Santon was at fault for the first imo, although Willo’s attempted header was a joke. Santon was also at fault for the others-he was suppoed to be right wing back when we conceded the third goal, instead Simmo will obviously get the blame…Tiote for the last, no tracking back, left Di Santo will all the space he needed…

    Anyway onwards and upwards. Players can make up for it with a win against Chelski ;-)

  3. 3
    karl says:

    :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: Bye bye champions league i dont think we wanted to get there anyway,but thats N.u.f.c for you,get something to play for and they stuff it up every time.Cant grumble though what a cracking season we have had.Alan pardew for manager of the year,no worries,now for chelsea,city,and blue noses everton.toon,toon…

  4. 4
    Beardoschin says:

    Had to miss the game for the first time this season and from what I have heard/ read I chose the best one possible to miss.

    Not sure why everyone is already throwing in the towel in regards to champions league though as it stands we are still in 4th and 3 points clear of 5th. Tottenham and Chelsea can still loose tomorrow and nothings changed from last week except losing ground on third.

    Howay the lads.

  5. 5
    Newkie says:

    Beardo-Think its because people assume if we play like that for the rest of the matches we’ll lose them all. I’m sure we won’t, but I didn’t think we ‘d get champions league anyway, today was a great chance to put some real distance between ourselves and Spurs/Chelski but now it’s much closer and obviously they have the easier run in.

  6. 6
    Beardoschin says:

    *lose tomorrow

  7. 7
    The Kid says:

    Shocking performance but it could work in our favour. We will be written off again and the pressure will go

  8. 8
    Drake says:

    Why is it champions league, over we are 4 points behind arsenal with a game in hand and spurs need to win to be level on points. It was a shocking result today granted but we have had games like that this season Fulham Tottenham etc were we have been taken apart and shipped goals but we are still right in there HWTL

  9. 9
    UTD111 says:

    Totally agree with this report. I was at best sad and at worst totally disappointed. Whilst Wigan had a great recent record and looked good – we played into their hands – and they did not come up against a United team that has done so much to put us back on the map this season. Such a shame.

  10. 10
    Johno Toon says:

    By all accounts we were shit today so we have to move on. In regards to champions league , thought before the game 8 points would get us champs league for next season and that is still to play for. Not sure if we will get3 wins on the bounce with the run in we have but u never know.

  11. 11
    Lobacka says:

    We’re still in quite a good position in the league and it’s not over yet. Wigan have beaten a lot of the top teams and their loss at Fulham was a blip. Three games left and it’s not over until it is mathematically over :smile:

  12. 12
    Big Dave says:

    Toonsy you summed it up well, we were shit and got what we deserved, the players need to have a look at themselves and ask did they give their all.
    Saying that I dare say Pards will get the blame of some, it will be his tactics or lack of them will be the reason behind the result :lol:

  13. 13
    mark says:

    we lost heavily to Spurs and bounced back. I’d rather be in our postion than Spurs who were on fire early in the season but have been turd for ages. We’ve just had a bad game. Caught off-guard by an in-form Wigan.

    We’re still in Europe but today was definately one to forget.

  14. 14
    lacedaemonian says:

    We have had a few games like this this season. It’s games like this we needed someone like Stesh Taylor.

  15. 15
    Porciestreet says:

    Wigan were top drawer today . wish we had been first to the ball all afternoon. Just wasn’t us of late . Four great goals and can’t help the feeling that Krul was on another planet. Never mind, we’ll be back on Wednesday …….! HWTL.

  16. 16
    UTD111 says:

    Big Dave @12

    Whatever folks want to say about Pardew – they can’t deny he’s got it right more times than he’s got it wrong.

    Funnily enough, I was watching the Southampton game today on BBC when they won promotion. And the commentators were going on about how much Alan Pardew had contributed to heir rebuilding and in view of what he did there, how unreasonable it was when he was dismissed.

  17. 17
    Newkie says:

    UTD111-Aye, but to be fair if you’re banging your player’s missus then you’re asking for trouble :mrgreen:

  18. 18
    icedog says:

    the tactics were shit today :grin: :grin: :grin: pardew oot :lol:

  19. 19
    UTD111 says:

    Newkie@17
    That wasn’t true…..trust me ;-)

  20. 20
    Porciestreet says:

    Ice, hurry up and melt. Best gaffer wev’e had since Joe Harvey.

  21. 21
    Big Dave says:

    UTD111 @ 16 agree with you, and yeah I heard them bigging up Pards for what he had done for the Saints but try telling that to chuck or a few others :lol: :lol:

    Lace @ 14 yeah we have missed Saylor as he is the type you need in games like that.

    Ice your on the wrong place :grin:

  22. 22
    UTD111 says:

    Big Dave

    Chuck’s a big loveable character! The game needs characters :grin:

  23. 23
    Newkie says:

    UTD111-Was it definitely not? Seems strange for him to have been sacked otherwise…

  24. 24
    clinath says:

    I didn’t get over exited about our 6 game winning run, so i refuse to fall apart after one defeat. This was a wake up call, a reality check. Take it, learn from it and come back stronger.

  25. 25
    Premandup says:

    Hell I’d have taken 62 pts at the start of the season

  26. 26
    Beardsleys Boots says:

    The most annoying thing for me, was that we knew what was gonna happen at kick off.
    All we had to do was sit deep and absorb their pressure. Concede posession and take them on the break.
    But NO we got it completely wrong.
    Seemed like we hadn’t done any study of wigan whatsoever.
    4-3-3 doesn’t work against 3-4-3, especially when the defence is all over the place and the midfield a complete shambles.
    3-5-1 sitting deep for the first 20 mins would have been spot on.
    4-0 down by HT is a joke and there is clearly little hope from that position.
    OK a shambolic performance from ALL, but lessons will be learned I’m sure as this was a humiliation.
    NEXT :???:

  27. 27
    UTD111 says:

    Newkie@23
    I can’t say more – it wouldn’t be fair to a few people. But no, that’s not what happened. That’s all I can say mate.

  28. 28
    Beardsleys Boots says:

    intensity is the word tho.
    Wigan were all over us like a rash..
    Fair dues to em they were well up for it.

  29. 29
    Big Dave says:

    UTD111 believe it or not but chuck used to be quite funny at times and I got on well with him, but when worky banned me he was running me down, from that I have no time for him.

    clinath same here mate as i’ve said all good things come to an end, and this might do us a favour ;-)

  30. 30
    Beardsleys Boots says:

    great vocals from the fans tho, :lol:

  31. 31
    Newkie says:

    Beardsley-Aye, I think if we’d just stayed safe for the first 25/30 mins and found our rhythm we’d have been fine and come out on top, if we’d retained possession and forced them into some needless fouls (which we did anyway) they would have had to step back in case they got someone sent off. As it was we conceded early and for whatever reason that completely shatters our morale, particularly the defenders, and the midfielders end up frustrated and in turn the strikers live on scraps.

    That’s the only thing that really worries me about the first 11, the lack of leadership and the shells our players go into-Krul, Colo, Willo, Santon, Simpson. None of them have real steel in them. Colo becomes quiet, Krul becomes really shaky/stroppy, Willo and Simmo lose focus and concentration and Santon just disappears. Then again, none of them were helped by the fact Tiote had a shocker.. :roll:

  32. 32
    Newkie says:

    UTD @ 27- Eh :shock:

  33. 33
    icedog says:

    thought i would get more than two bites :sad:

  34. 34
    Newkie says:

    Ice ;-)

  35. 35
    toonsy says:

    Ice – You might have but I was eating a the time :lol:

  36. 36
    icedog says:

    DAVE chuck knows as much about footy as richie does about winning beauty shows ;-) :grin:

  37. 37
    Big Dave says:

    Newkie I thought I was the only one that thought our side lacks “STEEL” including Colo, I have said it loads of times yeah you can have a captain that is quiet and leads by example but there is games where you need someone to show that bit of steel and tell the others including Colo that they need to show it instead of going into their shell, Stand up Steven Taylor ;-)

  38. 38
    flash says:

    @ beardsleysboots could not agree more with u! Only thing i had to add is did anyone notice how narrow wigan made the pitch linewise! Must me narrowerer than stoke snd then good luck with our system as it wont work !

  39. 39
    UTD111 says:

    Big Dave @ 37

    The other thing that Steven Taylor and Colo give us – is they put their bodies in the way – don’t turn their backs like so many defenders do when the ball is coming at them.

    We’ve missed ST badly.

  40. 40
    toonsy says:

    What worries me is the way we lose. We don’t half do it properly don’t we :lol:

    We’ve lost by one goal only twice this season (Arsenal and West Brom). The rest have been by two, four and five :shock:

  41. 41
    Newkie says:

    Dave-Nah I agree with you completely I’ve said it a couple of times myself, and thought that would be the problem with letting Barton go. Yes he’s an arse but and his off field antics are a massive distraction-and yes we have a nice positive luvvy duvvy atmosphere in the squad now which is great while we’re on top but not when we’re behind.

    Staylor is definitely one of those characters, and probably old enough now to get the authority to yell at the others, including Colo. Colo can play it cool when we’re in the lead or even if we’re chasing a lead, but when under the cosh everyone just shits it.

  42. 42
    funkyjesus says:

    Going by our season so far, I guess this means we bosh Chelsea 2-0 next match and go unbeaten to the end of the season now?

    What a bizarre season.

  43. 43
    kimtoon says:

    I had a funny feeling we may come unstuck today .Wigan have really got their act together in recent weeks and they are a really dirty team too. They could easily have picked up a red card today had it been a different ref .They were first to every ball and looked fresh where as we looked jaded and spent of ideas . Don’t know how we can play so well for weeks then crash and burn like that it’s odd . :shock:

  44. 44
    kimtoon says:

    We barely hung on at Arsenal and beat stoke comprehensivly ,yet Stoke hold Arsenal to a draw so go figure. Also I see Everton beat Fulham 4.0 and we have to play Everton ,bareing in mind what Fulham did to us .It really is a funny old game.

  45. 45
    icedog says:

    all teams get blips even the top teams m/u,m/c,gunners ect have all been thumped at some point this season its not the end of the world imo the players thought is was a walk in the park,it was like park footy from the lads they just were not up for it in the first half anyway,pardew must have kicked a arse or three you could even see harper was really angry at them,on the good side we could have got a couple in second half,to little two late :sad:

  46. 46
    Newkie says:

    Kimtoon-both of those can be addressed with the “home form” factor though I guess. Fulham have been pretty awesome at home but terrible away this season. Stoke are strong at home, and it took an amazing show from Demba to beat them earlier in the season. Plus arsenal are famous for struggling against stoke, don’t think they’ve won at the britannia in like 6 years.

    Not sure where I’m going…all the games left are hard, but we’re capable of beating the lot if we try our hardest-except maybe City who if they play at their best will beat anyone.

  47. 47
    kimtoon says:

    Newkie @ Don’t we usually struggle at the Britannia though too and I know how good Ba was that day but Arsenal have RVP so should be able to win against them too. What I’m trying to say is anyone can beat anyone on their day ,look at Scum v Citeh for example but are Scum better than Citeh, ofcourse not it just happens sometimes ,usually because the better team fail to turn up on the day.

  48. 48
    Big Dave says:

    Ice your right, it just seems when we have a blip we just seem to disintegrate :???:

  49. 49
    Big Dave says:

    Newkie @ 46 if we are playing as we know we can I think we would beat Citeh as it’s not often you have 2 teams playing their best ;-)

  50. 50
    kimtoon says:

    Dave- The worrying thing is will other teams notice that.

  51. 51
    icedog says:

    DAVE as we have said before lack of leadership on the pitch at times,manager seems to think not he sees what we see,so what do we know,unless he doesnt see a better one to take the mantle :sad:

  52. 52
    Blackley & Brownlie says:

    Big Dave – What about Caldwell for the leadership qualities you’re talking about?

  53. 53
    HBA39 says:

    Toonsy
    Is better to lose 3 times by five than 10 times by one. Even if its humiliating.
    I dont know why we can lost all our football during a half time like that or against Fulham, we are not able just to be quiet and make 3 passes to calm the game.
    One positive is that we need to understand our strenghts just give a good ball to Benny feet. It was i think his best 20 minutes this season he was world class in second half but we don’t have luck.
    Just 2 things that I cannot still understand, the hoofing from Krul and the long ball of Simpson, that MUST STOPPP.

  54. 54
    toonsy says:

    HBA39 – I agree entirely. I’m just wondering why when we lose it is generally by a thumping rather that just the odd goal

  55. 55
    TOONARMYELITE says:

    So what we got beat :sad: on to chealsea forget about today :grin:

  56. 56
    Big Dave says:

    Ice we have a player with the leadership qualities ;-) just that he is injuried :evil:

    B&B I don’t know about Caldwell never really watched him, were you with the troyster today :?:

  57. 57
    Big Dave says:

    Toonsy I honestly believe its because we have no one in the team to pick the players up, it sort of proves the point that today in the 1st half we were embarrassing but after halftime and no doubt Pards told them to fuking wise up they came out and played. IMO we lack leadership on the pitch

  58. 58
    Blackley & Brownlie says:

    Big Dave – Nah. I was thinking about Troy as it went from bad to worse. Never heard from him. He’ll be blootered.

  59. 59
    HBA39 says:

    Yeah I don’t understand to. Football is strange sometimes but that makes him beautiful.
    Hope a win against Chelsea and we will be back in the game for the CL. Even if our run of games is really very very difficult

  60. 60
    Big Dave says:

    B+B I seen a pic of him before the game and he looked half canned then :lol: do you agree about us lacking the backs to the wall type of leadership :?: as for Caldwell I take it you were talking Wigans one ? I keep getting him mixed up with his brother :?: where is he as I thought he was at wigan or bolton

  61. 61
    Big Dave says:

    Scrub that B+B his bro plays for Brum

  62. 62
    Newkie says:

    Kimtoon-Yeah I agree with you on that, anyone can beat anyone.

    Dave-49
    We could definitely beat city if we were at 100% and they were at say 80%, but when they’re on proper form they’re pretty much unplayable. But at 100% I think we could genuinely beat Chelsea at 100%……

  63. 63
    Beardsleys Boots says:

    HBA39 you are bang on about Krul and Simmo with the hoof ball.
    Both very guilty of gifting posession back to wigan.
    It just seems they panic on the ball and dont have the composure/skill to pick a simple pass on the ground.
    Benny felt the weight of resposibility and was unlucky with some nice dribbles. Was guilty of over doing it at times tho and could have passed .

  64. 64
    kimtoon says:

    Cisse and Ba could of had a goal today with a smiggin more luck mind .

  65. 65
    kimtoon says:

    Just want the Chelsea game to come now and hopefully get this one out the system .

  66. 66
    Blackley & Brownlie says:

    Big Dave – When Steve played for us I liked that he showed the Tony Adams style of leadership (if not the playing ability). Brother Gary is the same sort of player. I love to see that. Gary is certainly a better player than Willo, who looks so uncomfortable on the ball even when he’s got loads of time.

  67. 67
    Big Dave says:

    B+B yeah I agree with you about Willo and have said the same several times, but it seems when we win most think that he is spot on even when he has been poor, too many times he has cost us points or very near cost us points only for one of our strikers to score to cover his ass, and at this level I think you can only afford 1 or 2 off games but Willo has had a few too many.

  68. 68
    Sharpy17 says:

    Fuck it … were in Europe in a season we were supposed to be Relegation contenders.

    Really bad day at the office today but still an outstanding season :roll: ;-)

  69. 69
    Beardsleys Boots says:

    willo is too leightweight too for a CB
    1st goal, Moses just nudged him out the way and then had a free header on goal.
    He is big enough, but like a streak of piss. Needs to get some steak inside him :lol:

  70. 70
    Beardsleys Boots says:

    Anyhoo really looking forwards to wednesday neet.
    Cant be much worse than todays effort.
    Howay the Lads.

  71. 71
    icedog says:

    DAVE imo willo will be gone in the summer,hence us signing a c/b and taylor will be back so divnt worry ;-)

    SHARPY aye spot on more than i hoped for at season start ;-)

  72. 72
    UTD111 says:

    BEARDSLEYS BOOTS
    April 28, 2012 at 23:09
    willo is too leightweight too for a CB
    1st goal, Moses just nudged him out the way and then had a free header on goal.
    He is big enough, but like a streak of piss. Needs to get some steak inside him
    ______________________________________________

    Joe Harvey would have had him drinking stout :)

    Seriously though – the lad is just not a top central defender

  73. 73
    Darren Smith says:

    Guys, reality check!!! Just a few seasons ago we were plying our trade in the Championship…at the start of this season the majority of fans were predicting a tough season and blaming Mike Ashley for selling some of our best players. Then all of a sudden, when the new signings start to come good we say Ashley actually knows what he is doing….now a few months later we take our first bad defeat in a while and you’re all on the teams back!!! Come on, six months ago you’d have been happy with a top half finish, now your complaining because we may have thrown away fourth, you can’t throw something away you never had and that’s coming from a true fan, show a little loyalty like the players have shown us all season!!!

  74. 74
    Troy Stavers says:

    Just got back from the match. Did a runner from the taxi from wigan but saved mesel £250!

    Totally agree Toonsy, you can’t take the plaudits if you are not prepared to take the hecklers !

    Every single player on that pitch for us needs to look at themselves in the mirror tomorrow morning and ask themselves whether they really tried today!?

    For me, it was eleven players believing the recent media hype and another eleven players fighting for premiership survival !

    Kak!

  75. 75
    Big Dave says:

    Darren what do you expect us to do come on here and kid ourselves while blowing smoke up the players asses. this is IMO what a blog is for, and if we arn’t to talk about the negatives and just keep it to ourselves will then there wouldn’t be any need for the blog tonight because there isn’t that much positives out of todays game.
    But sure your a true fan so I guess you don’t see the negatives and just live in a fluffy bubble

  76. 76
    Big Dave says:

    Troy I agree lad we were shite but the ” real fans ” don’t see that :lol:

  77. 77
    Troy Stavers says:

    @Darren

    People like you get right on my tits! But I’m sure I get on yours.

    My tits are probably bigger than yours so that probably makes me the winner!

    Now shad ap and jog on!

  78. 78
    Troy Stavers says:

    @Big Dave

    Darren is entitled to his opinion and fair do’s but i hate to hear that crap attitude.

    I’m sure theres plenty in his camp likewise ours.

    It personally grates on me though!

  79. 79
    UTD111 says:

    Darren Smith @ 73

    Don’t know about a “reality check” but mate – we are going to finish at least sixth (or as the media school kids who pervade the telly and radio these days would say, sick-th) – so I’m happy whatever happens, we just didn’t think we’d do this. The lads can’t win every game – everybody has off days.

    If we thump Chelski – you’ll all be happy again :grin:

  80. 80
    Big Dave says:

    Troy yeah it grates me too the same way that even when a player is shit and we win you can’t seem to mention it or you get the usual old shit ” stop complaining sure we won ”
    But Darren for me takes the award because he had to tell us he was a true fan :shock: so we should all fall into line behind him :lol: :lol:
    thats me outta here catch you’s tomorrow. oh and Troy your lass said your in the wheelie bin tonight ;-)

  81. 81
    Newkie says:

    Watched the match again on MOTD. Really painful. Still, how anyone can blame it on one or two players is beyond me.

    Anyway onwards and upwards….lets thrash Chelsea :mrgreen:

  82. 82
    Prashanth says:

    you have to accept its not our day when Franco Di Santo of all people fires in a screamer from 25 yards…

    The lads were definitely rattled and totally out of their depths, all because of this CL talk

    Its been a good season and there are 3 games where we may yet not score a point, but if they show better effort ill be happy.

    Pardew and the lads deserve nothing but praise

  83. 83
    bazza says:

    too many square pegs for me,total lack of effort from everyone, get demba ba back in the middle and lets play off him. as for players in their natural positions,take a good look at yourself and ask if you could of done more

  84. 84
    Newkie says:

    Bazza-Surely demba was our only out of place player? And even he has played on the left in a 4-3-3 at both West Ham and Hoffenheim I believe….well until we changed formation for that odd twenty minutes.

  85. 85
    Rodzilla says:

    bollocks

  86. 86
    Thandy Thaw says:

    Pith flapth

  87. 87
    brisvegas says:

    Some news of Curtis Good in the papers today:

    Melbourne Heart defender Curtis Good is poised to land a contract with English Premier League club Newcastle United. The Magpies are expected to launch a bid for Good after the young defender impressed in a 10-day trial.

    Newcastle has told the A-League club via email that the teenager had performed well, Melbourne’s Herald-Sun reported. Good, 19, was outstanding in his debut A-League season where he made 25 appearances and Heart’s resolve to keep him will be tested when the Magpies make a bid. Good’s trial was extended and he spent the last few days training with the senior side, under the guidance of manager Alan Pardew.

    Newcastle’s offer is likely to be a senior contract. “Newcastle formally wrote to us and they were extremely positive about Curtis’s time there and him as a person and that reflects well on the club and the A-League,” Didulica reportedly said.

  88. 88
    Nobby says:

    did demba play? i didnt notice (sense the tone). after the percy arms’ (walbottle) telly broke 10 minutes in i had to walk up to blucher social ‘clerrrb’ to watch the rest. got there to see us 2-0 down. fuck.
    it is not the fault of the players, pardew or mike ashley that we’ve lost…. it was mine!
    ive seen every minute of every match this season and this we get tonked in the one that i miss some of? my superstitious side tells me its obviously my fault.
    however my unsuperstitious side tells me its the players fault – a bit of pardews tactics bit 90% of it was the players.
    if im going to single anyone out it has to be tiote – he had a shocker! i think it was the 3rd goal that he let di santo take a touch before he shot. eh? tiote never does that – he’s normally in to them straight away!
    the 2nd goal was a bit unlucky, colo saved the cross but the ball bounced to one of their players.
    i think we played 10 in midfield…. when we were attacking we had noone in the box and when we were defending we had noone back.

    daves right – we dont have enough still without saylor. i called this first with my ‘is colo a leader of men’ article. as usual dave just copies my opinion ;-)

    darren – give y’sel a shake!

    enough complaining… hopefully the players learn from this. ;-)

  89. 89
    Nobby says:

    *we dont have enough steel (crap predictive text)

  90. 90
    M says:

    ‘lack of effort’ – bullcrap

    I’d also say that blaming our formation is a red herring too. I’ve no problem with Pardew switching between 433 and 532 – he had to try to do something to change the pattern of the game. A pattern which was deeply concerning for NUFC

    the problem was mental, the one thing Pardew got right yesterday was in his post-match interview – the players showed a lack of ‘intensity’. While individual players must take responsibility for this, mental preparation is ultimately part of the managers remit

    It seems the previous week’s succession of over-the-top fawning praise-laden articles in the national media made all concerned a touch complacent – players, manager, maybe fans too

    At least in the 2nd half, we looked like we’d remembered what it takes to compete in the Prem – Benny in particular looking sharp – and hopefully we can take this forward to Weds nite

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    richietoon says:

    Bad day at the office, it happens and when it happens at NUFC it is Baaaaad. I was hoping for a win yesterday as we all were but I said a couple of weeks ago this game worried me more than the others we have left. Poor performance, terrible result, dust themselves down and come out fighting, get a result at Chelski….happy days :mrgreen:

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    Darren Smith says:

    Well you can take from my earlier comment what you want, people want to see argumentative and cocky then that is what they’ll see.

    All I was really meaning is that we lose one game and its all doom and gloom, we still did great this season and I can safely say that was the first ‘bad’ performance I’ve seen all season, the players should be cut a little slack IMO. As for the true fan part, that wasn’t a dig at anyone, some parts of my comment like the ‘can’t lose something you never had’ may have made me sound like I’m not a fan, all I was doing was making sure you guys knew I was. But hey, jump down the throat of someone who has a different opinion to you’s, and actually wants to voice it! Maybe I’ll just agree with you all next time, sounds like it could be easier.

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    Beardsleys Boots says:

    We strutted onto the park with a certain arrogance, and expected Wigan to give us the respect a top 4 team deserves.
    They certainly gave us what we deserved. A lesson on commitment, aggression, determination, grit, hard work, but most of all desire.
    They were like a pack of dogs at times, snapping at our heels. We didn’t expect that and showed no respect to them.
    They spanked our arses and hopefully gave us the the reality check to finish off the season strongly.
    Agree with Richie, that was our hardest match of the run in and its out of the way now.
    I think we will perform alot better in the final 3.
    HTL

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    Beardsleys Boots says:

    NO Darren, that wasn’t the 1st bad performance.
    Spuds and Fulham were also bad performances.
    We played pretty bad against QPR away, just they weren’t good enough to score against us.
    There have been others too.
    But we have also played very well sometimes.
    No one has ever said on this blog its all doom and gloom. But we are only analysing and discussing the performance after the match. Like we always do. win, lose or draw.
    We always give credit when its due, and hi-lite failings also.
    Its generally well balanced on here.

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    richietoon says:

    Darren ….I wouldn’t take owt personal on here, I think peoples point is that it’s a football blog, if the players perform bad, they’ll get criticised on here, when they play well they’ll get the praise you can’t have one without the other. I doubt you’ll find anyone who isn’t happy with the way the season’s gone but that doesn’t mean we can’t have a moan(within reason) if somethings wrong. I bet at halftime Pards didn’t say never mind lads you were great before this game, I suspect he tore them a new one ;-)
    Oh and welcome to the blog, don’t think I’ve seen you on here before. :grin:

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    Beardsleys Boots says:

    we welcome REAL fans also :lol:

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    Darren Smith says:

    That is fair enough, I am not dissing the site at all as you guys do a great job…I am merely offering a voice of support for the players as they have given us such an incredible season and I feel like they deserve a bit more patience…but having said that, as mentioned you can’t just blog on the good stuff. I was disappointed watching the game too, I just felt a huge negativity in the post along with comments and feel like we should remember that we are in fact punching way above our weight considering the pre-season expectations. I know we should be beating teams like Wigan and the lads were outplayed, but you guys are talking as though we are proper top four contenders season in season out which we’re not, not yet anyway. Either way, just another opinion like you all have them too. Keep up the good work. :)

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    Darren Smith says:

    lol, I am new to the blog in terms of commenting but I have always read your posts. I’m never going to live that ‘real fan’ part down, am I?! Not meant the way it came across. ;)

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    Beardsleys Boots says:

    No worries fella, your opinions are actually welcome.
    Just give more of them and we will see where you are coming from.
    Were you at the match yesterday like :?:

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    Darren Smith says:

    P.S. Don’t get me wrong, I know it sounds like I’m happy losing 4-0, of course I’m not…but despite the loss and performance I am still really happy with the lads for what they’ve done this season. It is a real shame to throw away a game in that fashion when we have the opponents coming up that we do and if we were mid-table or lower I’d be fuming, but just still in shock at how close we are to that 4th spot.

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    Darren Smith says:

    @Beardsleys Boots, no I wasn’t there, I actually watched the game online from the comfort of my Toon Army room as I call it. :)

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    richietoon says:

    Darren…It’s an emotional game so fans tend to go to extremes when watching it, play well and we’re the best team ever, play badly and the world is about to end. Being a top 4 team(at the moment) and going to a team fighting relegation and getting humped was unexpected, just as many of the games we have won have been unexpected, it’s the unpredictability that makes football so great. If you take the “over the top” emotional reaction out of it you’d lose a bit of why I love it so much……that said sometimes the over reaction gets on my tits too :mrgreen:

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    Beardsleys Boots says:

    well we have a ‘game on’ thread where we discuss the match as it is taking place. You are welcome to join in on that too if you want.

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    Darren Smith says:

    @RichieToon, Yeah that is true, passion is what makes football so great…and most of you voiced your opinion just after the game, while I had time to think and analyse the bigger picture so to speak, my comments may not have been so ‘fluffy’ and positive if I’d commented 5 hours earlier. :)

    @Beardsleys Boots, I’ll have to drop by the forum while we play Chelsea, then you’ll get to hear my true unsensored thoughts. :)

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    Beardsleys Boots says:

    Good lad. you know it makes sense ;-)

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    richietoon says:

    Darren…I don’t think I overreacted in any of my comments, it was those other idiots ;-) :lol:

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    Beardsleys Boots says:

    you must mean me Richie :lol:
    Its just because I know I could do a much better job than Pardew :shock: :lol:
    errr….. or maybe Not ;-)

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    richietoon says:

    BB….if the cap fits :lol:

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