This morning saw quotes from Capello suggesting that Barton is good enough for England, but how it’s unlikely that he will pick him for the national side thanks to his ‘hot-headed’ nature. Is it just me that finds the irony in this statement outstanding?
First off I guess we need to take a look at what was said by Postman Pat, who incidentally has still not been to see any players at St James’ Park and sends his minions up here to do the dirty work for him. Why not? The art of delegation is key in management, and at £6 million a year in wages he has a lot of delegation to get through. Anyway, this is what he said:
“He is a good player but he is a dangerous player because sometimes you could end up playing 10 v 11. He might get sent off,” Capello said in the Guardian.
Asked if he was worried Barton’s “head might go”, Pat said: “Yes. But this is not a good moment to decide something about him. When a player is fighting with his club, it is normal to stay outside. The relationship between a club and a player is really important.”
Now Barton may get sent off, but other players may also get sent off. It’s interesting to see that Jack Wilshere has been sent off more times than Joey Barton had been at the same age. No worries over the alleged woman-beater no?
I also find it amusing that Capello cites one of the reasons for not picking Barton is because his “head might go”. I’m assuming this is not a concern for the notoriously short-tempered Wayne Rooney? Double-standards again?
At this point people will point out Barton’s chequered past and use it as a stick to beat him with. It wouldn’t be so bad, or so hypocritical, if Capello didn’t have a team full of players with previous transgressions.
First off we have John Terry with his philandering ways and private tours of club property. Then Rio with his “missed” drugs test, Gerrard and the nightclub incident, Wilshere and his alleged woman beating, Andy Carroll is no shrinking violet either. Oh and don’t forget Rooney and his penchant for the OAP side of vice.
The hypocrisy is outstanding and just about sums up why I have zero time for the current England national setup which, as a proud Englishman, is something that is horrible to say.
It was all supposed to change after our dismal World Cup last year, but it’s blatantly obvious that old habits die hard when it comes to Capello and his band of *****. For Joey’s sake, recent Twitter outbursts aside, I hope he continues doing what he is doing and continues to put the pressure on the England setup through his performances on the field of play.
Unfortunately though I feel that he is pissing against the wind with Postman Pat and Co.
I no longer even watch England games on telly because I feel no connection with the team…
TheDimpleboy(Quote)
Toonsy Capello is a grade A ****** that has no intentions of giving Joey a chance he will stick with the shower he has and maybe a few young yes boys along the way. I can remember him saying he would pick players on how they are playing not their reputation but like our board he is just a lying c@nt
Big Dave(Quote)
Barton is one of several “bigged up” but at the end of the day average English midfielders currently doing the rounds. Agree with Dimpleboy@1…
Munich Mag(Quote)
I agree, it does appear hypocritical tho the players mentioned, Terry, Ferdinand, Wiltshire, Carroll & Rooney are much better than Barton IMO
witters(Quote)
Does Capello realise that Barton has not even gotten 5 red cards in his entire career??? 🙄 🙄 🙄
deepak is an indian toon(Quote)
you pick a player on form nowt else.fkin disgrace.
hitman(Quote)
has cappelo ever been to SJP
hitman(Quote)
Sorry – disagree on this one. I totally agree that Capello and his band of tossers are a waste of carbon emissions, but can you really blame him for not wanting Barton within 20 miles of his camp?
The guy has spent the past 2 weeks reminding us what a poisonous, self-deluded, self-important little **** he is. Yes, all the things listed about other players are true – but they’re all saints compared to Barton, who takes just about every kind of bad behaviour to a whole new level compared to them. (Except adultery, thinking about it. Everyone has their up-side.)
It wouldn’t matter if I was running an international football team or a band of fekking window cleaners – I’d keep anyone like Barton well clear of my operation.
And have you seen Barton’s response? Is he back on drugs, for chrissakes?
Whumpie(Quote)
toonsy,postman pat 😀
hitman(Quote)
Hitman – Nope. He sends his assistant. He’s never been to Sunderland either although I can’t blame him for that 😆
toonsy(Quote)
* Sorry – take out the “back”. I don’t recall every hearing about him and drugs – just booze.
Whumpie(Quote)
The FA have too great an influence over the National Team.
LoonyToon(Quote)
Can’t believe Capello still has that job. You couldn’t have pooch-screwed the world cup much more thoroughly if you’d tried. I hate the whole England setup with a passion.
Hughton for England! Hughton for England!
Whumpie(Quote)
whimpie,you pick the best players that are english,you dont judge you just play the best team at hand, capello should not be judging barton he should be picking him on what he does on the pitch nowt else,if hes not picking him for off field acctions he should not be pickin gearrad also..
hitman(Quote)
Hitman – Spot on., Gerrard has not played consistently for a season now, yet when he is fit he will get picked without having to prove he can handle it again.
toonsy(Quote)
Yeah Whumpie( the back on drugs bit ) very bad form to blacken someones name and reputation just because you deslike him and are having a rant 😯
Big Dave(Quote)
No, you pick the guys most likely to win a tournament. And let’s face it – would you put any money on Barton making it through one without:
1. Getting sent off
2. Pissing off his team mates
3. Pissing off his bosses
He’s bloody poison in any camp! He’s bad enough when he’s sat at home; can you imagine him in the ‘Big Brother household’ situation he’d have to deal with at a Euro championship? He’d be in a fight with most of his team inside the first hour. And this is the lad who’s already pissed a lot of the squad by directly accusing them of being a bit ***** and claiming he’s the “best English midfielder”. Great move, Joey – way to fit in and be welcomed!
He’s an arsehole.
Whumpie(Quote)
Just watched the West Ham game. Nolan really was anonymous wasn’t he? Much like he was for us after Carroll went.
toonsy(Quote)
Too right Hitman. It’s been England’s problem for years. Too many players picked or played to satisfy their giant egos irrespective of whether they are in any kind of form at all.
Pootle(Quote)
that is pure BS whimpie.your hatred for barton is clouding your judgment m8
hitman(Quote)
Whumpie
August 7, 2011 at 19:53
“No, you pick the guys most likely to win a tournament. And let’s face it – would you put any money on Barton making it through one without:”
Indeed. Because our last squad was so sublime at that 😆
toonsy(Quote)
you pick the best of english,thats what is expected of an english manager,nothing more nothing less
hitman(Quote)
Toonsy did you see the sitter he missed 😆 😆
Big Dave(Quote)
Hitman @ 20 spot on Hate can be a bad thing when it results in slander and name calling 😆
Big Dave(Quote)
Apparently Pardew was in Holland today watching Miralem Sulejmani.He is a striker who plays for Ajax.. 😉
deepak is an indian toon(Quote)
like all england fans all we want to see is the best team on the pitch.
in all honesty i give up watching england many moons ago.
geordie first englishman second 😉
hitman(Quote)
And all hopes of signing him have faded I guess cause he scored 2 goals today and was named Man of the Match.. 🙁
deepak is an indian toon(Quote)
A bit off topic but – Did anyone else notice the idiots yesterday that were singing “get out of our club” while holding sports direct bags and buying club merchandise…
TheDimpleboy(Quote)
Pick the best players on form, and then see about those who can actually play for England as well. Lampard has never had a good game in his life and even now is still a fcking starter..just retire already.
Newkie(Quote)
very interesting Deepak. His goals will definitely make him more expensive all of a sudden.
But hey, I’ll still hold out hope! 😆
AndrewT(Quote)
Spoke to a couple of Man Utd fans today and they say Obertan is rapid but he doesn’t know what to do with the ball, which is quite worrying.
Stuart79(Quote)
stu,pardew will sort him out 😆 😆
hitman(Quote)
tell him he has to cross the feckin thing into the box or shoot at goal, it’s not rocket science 😆
richietoon(Quote)
Richie you should become one of our coach’s 😉
Big Dave(Quote)
AndrewT – True mate.He broke the Dutch transfer record to move to Ajax but has not quite been a huge success there.He had a falling out with Martin Jol and he was on the verge of joining West Ham last season on loan.And he was so desperate for the move to happen that he was slagging off the manager in public.But,new manager and a new chance might have convinced him to stay. Jumping the gun here a whole lot but heres a video of him for you –
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQejkekxpTY&feature=player_embedded
deepak is an indian toon(Quote)
sign richie up,hes got it sussed 😀 😀
icedog(Quote)
oh no thats right you turned your back and deserted the Toon 😆
Big Dave(Quote)
Dave….you know it makes sense 😎
richietoon(Quote)
Dave….feckin too right, small club wi deluded fans 😆
richietoon(Quote)
where the fk has everyone gone,its steve wraiths fault… 😆
hitman(Quote)
Rich I knew I would get you there, 😆 so are you glad to be back in the sun ? have you had many 2nd thoughts on your move yet ❓
Big Dave(Quote)
Dave…..I’m glad to be back but wor lass is missing Newcastle 😯
richietoon(Quote)
RICHIE you missed all that lovely weather here couple of your local places been flooded,you could have floated all owr 😀 😀
icedog(Quote)
Ice…aye one of wor lass’s mates sent her a photo of part of my street flooded
richietoon(Quote)
Sulejmani appears like more of a winger than a striker though. Although, he also seems like he would be able to focus on the striker role if it were handed to him. I suppose we’ll see.
Thanks for the background info on him having problems with Jol. I guess that would explain why i didn’t really here about him too much. Although if he were a record signing, I doubt they would easily let him go.
AndrewT(Quote)
richietoon says:
August 7, 2011 at 20:33
tell him he has to cross the feckin thing into the box or shoot at goal, it’s not rocket science
What’s the point in that? There’ll be no fecker in the box to finish!
Actually quite worried about where our goals may come from.
Stuart79(Quote)
stu deent worry m8 we still have shola 😆
hitman(Quote)
Stuart…..Saylor and Colo 😉 😆
richietoon(Quote)
i just think pardew looks really down thats a worry for me,ashley has ground him doon me-thinks 🙁
icedog(Quote)
LFCGlobe LFC Globe
#NUFC’s Derek Llambias and #LFC’s Damien Comolli were in discussions over José Enrique late last night; the meeting only last for half hour.
😯
AngelOfDeath(Quote)
Ice @ 43 the locals could have used him as a dingy 😆 😆
Stu I have said that loads of times it’s all well and good having a MF that will supply tonnes of ammo but you need a sniper to hit the target
Big Dave(Quote)
Ice I think it could be all the fall out from the players and the abuse etc he is getting from the fans aswell could be getting to him. Its different than MA he owns the club so has to take the ****, but Pards is only here as a job and like any off us when the job gets too much you will end up walking, Thats why I will get behind him because it would rip me apart to see JFK back 👿
Big Dave(Quote)
I am looking for a link to fantasy team league. is there one?
Also can someone please give me the password number
Toby le Rhone(Quote)
DAVE i would hate to see the chopping and changeing of managers,and lets be honest what manager worth his salt would take the toon job that was “once”the envey of most managers 😥
icedog(Quote)
Right – sprog to bed, back at the PC. Where were we…
Oh, yes. I totally agree with Capello – keep Barton away; he’s a bloody liability. You DO NOT just pick the best players, you put together the best SQUAD to win a tournament. That’s partly down to playing well and partly down to playing well together over a period of weeks with lots of boredom time in a hotel in between.
Barton just fails on too many points; everything about him is a risk. If he was Messi, you may take a punt, but he just isn’t that demonstrably better than other players to be worth it.
….and that’s about the only thing I agree with that overpaid git Capello on. I’d avoid most of his ****-kissing, adulterous, ‘in-with-the-in-teams’ losers he insists on playing. Come to think of it, if he did take Joey in 2012 at least we’d have the satisfaction of hearing about him beating the living ***** out of his team mates. Most of them need a good slap.
Roll on the rugby world cup.
Whumpie(Quote)
Ice spot on there is only 1 man that I could see talking the job on atm and that is none other than Smokin Joe Fukin Kinnear
Big Dave(Quote)
the only saveing grace for toon fans is when all these dicks have had there fill and fk off,we the fans will still be hear 😥
icedog(Quote)
Why are people ignoring Whumpie?
Toby le Rhone(Quote)
what did ya say 😕 😆 😆
batty(Quote)
dave ile take it 👿
batty(Quote)
Ice I cant wait till next week to get back to footie but even more so I cant wait till MA and Co sling their hook 😆 and I just hope we can get owner that will really see the potential for wor Club 😉
Big Dave(Quote)
toby,because hes full of *****,dosnt know his **** hole from his elbow 😆 😆
hitman(Quote)
Thats a serious problem and could be really painful and embarassing
Toby le Rhone(Quote)
TLR @ 58 ❓ ❓ we were through all this at the start of this thread I personally think he is entitiled to his opinion but I just think his hatred of Joey is getting in the way
Big Dave(Quote)
Batty would you work for the Fatman 😕
Big Dave(Quote)
DAVE batty already does,flogging his seconds the dirty dog
icedog(Quote)
Ice I know that mate but atm he only see’s MA once a week how would he feel having to see him all the time and doing his dirty deeds
Big Dave(Quote)
dave it would be him working for me ide promise you that 😉
batty(Quote)
Whereas hitman bases his opinions on a cross between Football Manager 1.0 and Subuteo. Billy the Fish had a better understanding of the game.
I just get sick of the gullible Joey-worshippers to read all the obvious pseudo-intellectualism and supporter-buttering bullshit. Joey’s playing them like a fiddle.
For what it’s worth, if Joey stays I’ll still want him on the pitch. But to get arsey because other managers openly say they don’t want him is ridiculous. Worse – it attracts nothing but ****-take from outside, where people see him for what he is: a good footballer, but nowhere near as good as he thinks he is and nowhere near worth the hassle.
Whumpie(Quote)
…doesn’t make Capello and England any better mind. His assessment of Joey is about the only thing he’s said that makes any sense.
Whumpie(Quote)
DAVE batty subs all the work oot he gets off ashley to try and keep his good name,cannot kid a kidder 😉
icedog(Quote)
dog thats right m8 😉 have you done that little job for me 😕 cleaning ashleys bog with your tooth brush 😆
batty(Quote)
🙄 Whumpie dont forget to pick the toys up when your done with your tantrum 😀 .
As for ‘I just get sick of the gullible Joey-worshippers’ if thats what you think of me and many others thats your choice I dont really care. But as I stated above when you wrongly slander Joey as being a druggie because of your hate filled rant and call other people names I think its time to look at yersel 😉
Big Dave(Quote)
BATTY whey aye done straight away you would only stop me money again,had too wait till owl-heed come oot like hes full of sh@t that man 😀
icedog(Quote)
aye dave i think its pot and kettle there whump
batty(Quote)