Captain Colo saves the day! Nottingham Forest 3-4 Newcastle (AET)

Colo grabs the glory
Newcastle progressed into the last 16 of the Caring Cup last night courtesy of a last minute extra time goal from Fabricio Coloccini which gave the away side the edge in a seven goal thriller at the City Ground.

The win makes it seven games unbeaten thus far this season as this new Newcastle side continue to defy the critics who had tipped them to struggle. To be honest, I’m not a critic, and even I didn’t expect us to be unbeaten after seven games in Cup and league.

Alan Pardew shuffled the pack and made nine changes for the game with the only two senior players retaining their place being Fabricio Coloccini and Danny Simpson. The other bits of big news were a long awaited appearance for Hatem Ben Arfa and a debut for summer signing Rob Elliot in goal.

Newcastle started off brightly enough and kept possession nicely, but it was the home side who had the first chance on goal through Robbie Findley’s flicked header over the bar inside 10 minutes. Sylvain Marveaux had the visitors first chance on goal although his shot from a Danny Guthrie through ball was blocked by the Forest defence.

In terms of goalmouth action there wasn’t a great deal to shout about in the first half. There was a lot of decent play however, one move of which resulted in our opening goal. Hatem Ben Arfa dropped deep into the midfield and clipped a ball out to Sylvain Marveaux on the left wing who then fired an inch perfect cross onto the head of Peter Lovekrands who gave Lee Camp in the Forest goal no chance.

Half time: Nottingham Forest 0-1 Newcastle

I suppose at this point I’d better give an update on Ben Arfa. The conclusion is that he looks impressive still. Time and again he went on dribbles and showed flashes of skill and he ended up attracting the interest of three Forest players every time he got the ball. Very impressive.

Also impressive were Sylvain Marveaux and, I can’t believe I’m going to say this, James Perch. Marveaux showed some great touches and sublime skill combined with pace out on the left. I remember one instance where the ball looked to be going out for a throw in but he trapped the ball in mid air with one foot and knocked it down the line with his other. Great stuff.

James Perch was rock solid. I actually can’t remember anything getting past him at all and he did everything that was asked of him, and more.

To be honest I was glad of the half-time interval. the 15 minute break gave my neck a respite, but it wasn’t us playing the long ball stuff. Nottingham Forest seemed to be employing a tactic which consisted of getting goalkeeper Lee Camp to pump the ball up the pitch as hard as he could.

And that was how the equaliser materialised just a minute after the restart. Another long punt from Camp found Robbie Findley about 40 yards away from the Newcastle goal. He turned and ran before unleashing a 25 yard shot past the despairing debutant in the Newcastle goal. I personally thought Elliot could have got down quicker.

Forest were much improved in the second half, but it was the away side who took the lead again, and it owed a huge debt of gratitude to Sylvain Marveaux. The former Rennes man received the ball on the left and knocked it between two Forest defenders before being pulled back in the box. A clear penalty, which Peter Lovenkrands dispatched into the back of the net.

That penalty could have been Lovenrands’ hat-trick goal had he not been woeful a few minutes earlier by spurning a great opportunity presented to him by Hatem Ben Arfa who beat five (by my count) Forest defenders before teeing up an unmarked Lovenkrands up only for him to scuff a tame 10-yard shot straight at Lee Camp. Poor to say the least.

Forest equalised with 20 minutes to go thanks to Matt Derbyshire. The former Blackburn man benefited from a weak tackle from Danny Guthrie which allowed Jonathan Greening to play the striker in and he cooly took the ball round Elliot before tapping into an unguarded net.

There were further chances for both sides to grab a winner in normal time. Sammy Ameobi headed towards goal only to be denied whilst Gabriel Obertan screwed a volley over the bar. In fairness the ball was at head height so it was a difficult chance. Not that the bloke behind me noticed that of course. He was too busy rubbishing anything and everything that Newcastle did, including that moment where Ben Arfa beat five men which I mentioned earlier. That should have been a shot apparently and means that Hatem has “lost it as a player”.

Bit of a rant here, but people who claim the moral high ground for supporting the team by going to a game lose their argument when you hear idiots like him. I wanted to rip his throat out at one point but I was too busy perving at the girls in front of me in fairness.

Full-time: Nottingham Forest 2-2 Newcastle

Into extra time the game went and I was starting to get that niggling penalty shootout feeling. That feeling went away briefly however when Danny Simpson managed to scored a complete fluke of a goal after his right-wing cross managed to evade Lee Camp and hit the back of the Forest net. They all count, but there is no doubt in my mind that it was a cross. In fact I can’t see any way that it can be claimed otherwise.

Forest pushed for the equaliser and hit the bar through Joel Lynch before being denied by Rob Elliot at the start of the second half of extra time. They didn’t have to wait too much longer for an equaliser however as Danny Simpson managed to flap on the ball and allow Ishmael Miller to run into the penalty area. His low driven cross evaded everyone except Marcus Tudgay who had a simple tap in to level the scores and seemingly take the game to a penalty shootout.

Tudgay could have won the game after he chipped the ball up for himself to volley just over from an acute angle, but Newcastle were spared the agony of penalty kicks in stoppage time in extra time. Gabriel Obertan’s dinked ball to the far post with the outside of his right foot was inch perfect for Fabricio Coloccini to nod in to send the away fans into raptures.

Full-time (after extra time) Nottingham Forest 3-4 Newcastle

Much will of course be made about the fact that we struggled to beat Forest because the are “only Forest”, but this was “only our reserve side” so it’s worth remembering that.

In short there were some great performances, indifferent ones and shocking ones although overall I’m happy with the way the game panned out. A run out for some fringe players, some game time for others, no injuries, and progression in the Cup. What more can you ask for? Would a home draw against Aldershot be too much to ask for?

This was a truly pulsating game. I’m really glad I decided to go at the last minute and enjoyed every minute of it. It was a good laugh with Jobey07 and Marktoon, I got to see seven goals and some good performances from some players with a win to boot. Good times.

Unfortunately the site went down and I couldn’t repair it on my travels, for which I apologise. Bad times. I’ll try not to let it happen again.

Some of our fans are rather embarrassing though. It seems as though if you don’t fit then you don’t get a break. Take James Perch for example. For me he was nearly the Man of the Match and easily could have been. He tackled and passed well and never put a foot wrong all game, but that wasn’t enough for some who barracked him all game. Hatem Ben Arfa was also a target as some of the stuff he tried failed to be finished by his team-mates, which was Hatem’s fault apparently. I could go on but I’ll stop there as I’m at the risk of moving away from the game itself although I must stress that it’s only a minority who exhibited such moronic behaviour.

Player ratings

Rob Elliot – 5: He didn’t really have a lot to do, but what he did do never filled me with confidence. He got dubbed “E-dog” by Jobey although I subsequently changed that to “hot dog” due to his rather portly stature.

Danny Simpson – 4: Poor. One flukey goal doesn’t mean a lot when you forget how to defend. A horrible performance from the former Manchester United man who once again proved to be a weak link at the back.

James Perch – 7: Strong, composed on the ball and tackled well. I can’t remember him being beaten throughout the entire match. had a point to prove on his return to his old club and didn’t do himself any harm at all. A real contender for Man of the Match. Seriously!

Fabricio Coloccini – 7: Colo was Colo. Calm and assured. He marshalled the defence fairly well. He very nearly dropped a clanger which nearly afforded Ishmael Miller a clear run on goal but he recovered and redeemed himself. Brilliant positioning for the winning goal.

Shane Ferguson – 6: Never really did a lot wrong. Linked well with Marveaux and looked steady away. Needs fitness as he was just about dead by the full-time whistle, but that will come with playing matches.

Danny Guthrie – 6: The G-Unit was steady away and showed some great touches and passing in the middle of the park. He also displayed some poor touches and passing. Average.

Mehdi Abeid – 6: A surprise start for the Frenchman who was thought to be injured. It showed in the end as his performance faded, but for the first hour or so he was neat, tidy, assured and got up and down in support of defence and attack when needed. Not a bad performance at all from the youngster.

Dan Gosling – 5: Another one who faded in the game, but he seemed to fade much earlier than the rest which is why I’ve marked him down. Is it fair to mark someone down for lacking in match fitness? First half he was decent but beyond that he was anonymous.

Hatem Ben Arfa – 7: Only played about an hour, but he was brilliant when he was on the pitch. The last person I saw who could control a ball like him was Pedro in his playing days. Will be a fantastic player for us in the future when he reaches full fitness. Not everything he does will come off, but it will be fun watching it for sure!

Sylvain Marveaux – 8: My Man of the Match. I had expressed concerns about him purely based on the fact that I’d not seen a lot of him even though some people moved to reassure me of his talent. I see what they mean now. Full of pace, trickery and clever play he was a thorn in the side all night. One assist, or two if you count the penalty he won. Like Routledge but much better.

Peter Lovenkrands – 5: I feel harsh giving someone who scored two goals such an average mark, but it’s the best way of reflecting the average level of his performance. He was anonymous aside from the goals and offered little to the team. Constantly lost possession and ran down blind alleys. On this evidence he is way behind Leon Best and Demba Ba in the striking pecking order.

Gabriel Obertan – 6: On as a sub and ended the game at left-back. Showed flashes of brilliance but also frustrated at times. His pace did open things up however and he put in a cracking cross for Colo’s winning goal.

Shola Ameobi – 5: Typical Shola. A few moments of Barcelona Shola mixed with many more moments of regular Shola. Needs to work on learning the offside rule and how stop giving away free-kicks every time he tussles for the ball.

Sammy Ameobi – 7: Typical Sammy. Ran at the Forest defence with confidence. He can do stuff with a ball an Ameobi shouldn’t be able to do! Seems to ghost past defenders and causes real trouble for the opposition. A great prospect, with great potential.

All in all a great result considering what we were missing. Leon Best, Jonas Gutierrez, Yohan Cabaye, Demba Ba, Cheik Tiote, Tim Krul and Steven Taylor were all denied any playing time at all so we have them to come back in. Fair play to the ressies!

At the end of the day you can only beat what is in front of you. Alan Pardew picked the team to do that and whilst I was initially wondering why we hadn’t gone with a more experienced side it’s pretty clear that he got it spot on. He also got his subs spot on and switched tactics during the match which caused Forest no end of problems.

The most important thing is that we go into the hat for the next round of the Carling Cup draw which will take place on Saturday. A decent draw at home would be nice in fairness as we’ve been away in the last two rounds. If we do get said decent draw, and if other draws go our way, then who knows. Do you dare to dream of Wembley?

Howay the lads!

Nottingham Forest (4-3-3): Lee Camp (c); Brendan Moloney, Wes Morgan, Joel Lynch, Chris Gunter; Jonathan Greening, Guy Moussi (Radoslaw Majewski 76), Lewis McGugan (Andy Reid 88); Robbie Findley, Marcus Tudgay, Matt Derbyshire (Ishmael Miller 85)

Subs not used: Paul Smith, Kieron Freeman, Patrick Bamford

Newcastle United (4-2-3-1): Rob Elliot; Danny Simpson, James Perch, Fabricio Coloccini (c), Shane Ferguson; Mehdi Abeid, Danny Guthrie; Dan Gosling (Shola Ameobi 70), Hatem Ben Arfa (Sammy Ameobi 70), SylvaiSubs not used:n Marveaux; Peter Lovenkrands (Gabriel Obertan 80)

Subs not used: Tim Krul, Paul Dummett, Jeff Henderson, Leon Best

Referee: Lee Mason

Attendance: 10,208 (2,187 Newcastle)

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62 thoughts on “Captain Colo saves the day! Nottingham Forest 3-4 Newcastle (AET)

  1. Great match report toonsy.
    I really like Marveux. He has such amazing control and a great first touch. Seems like a very clever player. I love the way he pushed the ball between two forest players when they expected him to control the incoming pass and used his pace to get through them and won us the penalty. Great little touch.
    Didn’t see too much of Ben Arfa in the goals video and I just cannot wait to see him vs Blackburn. Brilliant assist from Obertan, that chip was just sublime. I’m disappointed Gosling didn’t grab this opportunity to push for a first team place.
    Glad Perch did well, but I read somewhere he was at fault for their first goal. Anyway, still unbeaten, another cup win, we have an attacking threat, only blip is simpson’s form. I hope he cranks it up a notch in the league.


  2. Great write-up, Toonsy!

    Shame about last night. I actually ended up going on Wanky Tissue’s blog for a while – that’s how bad it got.


  3. TC – Just one of them things mate. Nowt I could do about it mate. Believe me I was just as pissed off about it as anyone else was!

    Hydeous – Nah, not Perch for the first goal. That was just a long punt (hoof from Forest) which fell nicely for them. Nobody to blame as such.


  4. Good idea about how the game went, so nice report Toonsy.

    I must say, Obertan has impressed me since his arrival, he might not be incredible but he is no worse than Jonas, and certainly an improvement on what we had. I think like Jonas he doesn’t get enough credit.

    Simpson has been a weak link for a while, although he did well at Villa. I’d personally like to see Jonas playing at left back, with Marv at left wing, and when fit Santon at right back with Obertan on the right.

    Tiote, Ben Arfa and Cabaye in the middle. With either Best or Ba up front.

    I really don’t think we are too far away from being the best club in England outside of the top five/six.


  5. To give an idea of what I mean, at least for home games until January:




    ________________Cabaye_______Ben Arfa________________


    ______________________Leo Best_______________________

    Bench: Harper, Williamson, Simpson, Fergie, Gosling, Sammeobi, Ba.

    We would still have the likes of Vuckic, Abied, Kadar, Guthrie, to come in.
    Which I find very exciting.

    And if we went out in January and got say Pieters and another quality striker. I don’t see many better squads, with young promising talents as we have got outside of the top five.


  6. Great win, shows the spirit in the squad to keep coming back and going to the end.

    Dissapointed with the defending mind. It did show our limitations in defensive cover.

    All in all another win and four goals, so we cannot complain.

    Would like Aldershot at home in the next round then then it’s the quarters and anything can happen. But alas I’m sure we’ll draw Man U or Chelsea away…


  7. To be honest I think people fail to see the bigger picture with payers like Obertan and Jonas. they may not have consistent end product, but they do have different strings to their bows.

    Jonas has work rate and control. He can dribble and causes problems in that way.

    It’s still early days for Obertan, but I’ve seen a few people question his crossing? Fair enough, but don’t ignore the fact that just his pace alone is enough to change a game, like it did last night when he came on. the right side was non existent until he came on.


  8. Toonsy, my girl was asking if your display pic was actually you! 😀
    I just told her you probably look like that in uniform! 😀 😀


  9. Not everybody takes their chance to impress in these cup games. I had hoped Gosling would shine in this game but over the moon that Ben Arfa looks like he won’t be too far away from his previous ability. Leg breaks finish most players, just look at Smudge.

    I was at the FA cup game when we beat Spurs 6-1 and it was awesome. The two old fellas behind me said that “Dyer had played poor”. Genius!


  10. @JJ. what a midfield that is. Mouthwatering. In control of the game, pressing forward, that midfield will be so damn good to watch. I’m not sure about the defence though. Why Jonas at LB? I’m pretty sure he’s never played there. He played RB for Argentina, but I believe he’s a better winger. And Santon has more experience at LB, doesn’t he? I’d like a new RB in jan, maybe experiment with Jonas there for now just to give Simpson a push towards better performances.


  11. Was perch abducted by a premier league player?? At least we know CB his best position!

    Marveux has got to start imo at blackburn pure quality him and HBA linked up so well! Good times….


  12. Lace – I wouldn’t say that Gosling was spectacularly bad. When he was fresh he was passing the ball about nicely and put himself about. It was just when he tired he drifted out of the game. He needs to build his fitness up.


  13. Liam….who would you drop for Marveux?….there’s some tricky decisions ahead for Pards in midfield, it’s nice to have that sort of problem but then that leads onto another problem of trying to keep all those players happy…..good luck AP 😀

    Good write up, eventually found a radio link that worked over here….after much swearing and kicking of the cat.


  14. Great write up, Toonsy. Good thing you went to the game, as we wouldn’t have gotten any unbiased judgement on Perch’s performance if you hadn’t. Good to know, that he could actually do a job for us at CB if called upon.

    When the team is at full strengh, I would like to try Jonas at RW. This would open up a spot for Marveaux on the left, and assuming Santon will be able to tighten up the LB spot, Jonas could help out Simpson on the right the way he has done it with Raylor until now. Simpson, as you rightly pointed out, is our weak link at the back, but with work-horse Jonas in front of him, we might be better covered ..
    Marveaux on form looks like a definite starter. His pace, first touch and crossing seems to be second to none of our other wingers. I hope he isn’t too worn out come saturday, ’cause him Ben Arfa and Jonas behind Best looks like a very decent attacking unit.
    A few decent backup additions in January, and we have a squad capable of making a real challenge for 7th spot – I honestly think so ..


  15. I agree…. want Marveaux, Jonas and Obertan all playing…. also want Tiote and Cabaye, Ben Arfa and Best or Ba… whoops that’s too many players, but what a luxury!

    Re Lovenkrands…. just from the radio coverage I remember thinking, wow… with Ben Arfa and Marveaux setting things up like this, even Lovenkrands can score! 😀

    Marveaux has played twice now 120 minutes. PL match will be a cakewalk for him 😀

    Oh, and Captain Colo I love you…. you play every match the whole match, score in the last minute, and only make enough mistakes to keep you human, xo


  16. hydeous

    I wouldn’t want Jonas to stay at left back, but I think he spends so much time there covering Raylor, he may as well play there for now. 😉

    Santon actually started at right back, but only got shifted to the left back position because Inter had Maicon, who for me is the best right back in the world.


  17. Just watched the highlights, wanted to highlight a couple of things:

    1) Ben Arfa’s pass to Marv for the first goal. Wow.

    2) Guthrie and Obertan guilty of unforgivable laziness in defence for Forest’s 3rd. Not good enough.


  18. Toonsy

    I think Jonas and Obertan offer very much the same thing, in plenty of skill and pace.
    I think Jonas has a slightly higher work rate, while Obertan has a slightly better touch and delivery.

    Both are very underestimated with their ability to QUICKLY bring the ball out from defense to attack, and I believe that we have the makings of a very good counter attacking team.

    Against strong opponents they can play a bit deeper and protect the full backs, and Cabaye can sit a bit more in front of the back four with Tiote, and they can break at lightning pace.

    Would love a fast powerful striker to add to what we have as an option too. Sammy Ameobi one day maybe?

    People harp on about poor delivery, but pace alone is so effective. Just look at Lennon at Spurs, or Walcott at Arsenal. Very good players.

    Its when they have pace and delivery, like a Bale, or Nani that they become World Class.


  19. Ok it was a Toon reserve side, but with Forest’s injury list and changes to the team it was at least half a Forest reserve side too.


  20. Richie – as much as it pains me to say obertan. He looked good when came on and looks like a good impact player when needed to be. Marveuxs passing ability is very good.

    Who will we drop for HBA?? Ba or best or neither play HBA and marveux up front! 🙂


  21. Good thing that we were able to give some players without much match fitness a runout and still progress in the turno. Liking the sound of Perch aswell! We have to remember jose was also god awful in his first prem season. Also looking forward to see HBA and Marveaux firing on all cylinders, plus we have Obertan, Abeid, Vuckic, Gosling and Sammyamamobie. We have serious potential at the moment.

    Also noticed that mclaren seemingly has lost his wierd dutch accent????


  22. Perhaps we shouldn’t be overly concerned with the fact we conceded 3 goals. The monsoon conditions made it a defenders nightmare. Decisions have to be made with the rain bleaching into eyes and difficulty in staying on the feet. It’s always defender’s mistakes that are highlighted in conditions like that. I do like the look of the likes of Ben Arfa, Marveaux and Obertan whose first touch and control give them a yard start on the majority of opponents. For instance and has been said by Hydeous @1, the control on the volley by Marveaux which instantly took him between the 2 defenders, effectively taking them out of the game, was sublime. That must be an absolute nightmare for a even the best to defend against. The signs are good and hopefully there are more exciting times ahead.


  23. In fairness I think Jonas is going to be under a little bit of pressure soon. With Marv looking to have more end product than him he could find himself out of the team for home games.

    My team would be:

    Simpson Collo Taylor Santon

    Tiote Cabaye

    Jonas Marv

    Ben Arfa



  24. Toonsy; all the plusses out of the game the best one for me was that HBA got through the game unscathed and no injuries to our big guns.


  25. ” I wanted to rip his throat out at one point but I was too busy perving at the girls in front of me in fairness.”

    hahahaha. quality.


  26. Good news about some players performance. I was at graft pulling me hair out!

    Fair play to Perch although its a different kettle of fish playing in front of 10000 at a ground you know like the back of your hand compared with 40000 groaning at you at SJP…shame but that’s the way it is.


  27. Liam – The video I originally put in has been copyright claimed by the Football League so YouTube have taken them all down meaning that you couldn’t watch it, so I just went somewhere else and got a new set of highlights 😛

    When will they learn to embrace it rather than trying to stamp it out. There is always a way around people blocking highlights 😉


  28. Toonsy good stuff – how many turned up at notts in away end? Was gutted couldnt get up there… just bit too far for last min job


  29. They reckon it was about 2,200. Seems about right to me. We outsang their lot for large parts of the game. But for about two blocks in the stand next to the away end nobody from the Forest seemed bothered. They were all quiet 😛


  30. looking at the video highlights… keeper Elliot should have got his body in front of one or two of those goals/crosses..

    Think it may not have been such a struggle with Krul between the sticks


  31. Richie nice one 🙂 Thats a quality turn out really great stuff and NUFCblog representatives too!
    Its hard not to get a bit carried away with the team at the mo!


  32. Moreno – Agree but i also think perch is best suited to CB.
    Of course his natural position is on the couch at home.


  33. Be great to get Aldershot in the next round.

    My Dad was telling me that his Uncle or maybe great Uncle played for Aldershot and they won the old divison 2 title. They were then kicked out of the league as a team and put in prision for mutuniy. Seemingly it was an Army team back in the day.


  34. Toonsy 🙂

    Whats happened to troy? Want to see him get excited again about another good result! 🙂


  35. Moreno – Leeds and Liverpool fans are just as bad when they talk about Munich. Doesn’t make it right but it goes on all the time. Funny how it never gets highlighted though…


  36. Toonsy,

    Dunno, Leeds fans singing about Munich is very well documented and has been throughout the years. Agree about Liverpool though, they seem to escape any critisicm


  37. Toonsy – brilliant write-up, really enlightening and positive.

    But “A great prospect, with great potential”…

    Is that a pleonasm? Or a tortology? Or a tortological pleonasm perhaps? 🙂


  38. Fantastic write-up toonsy, tried to stay up but fell akip and missed the lot, always good to read a proper, well informed and honest write-up. Especially for us exiled ower the wata 🙂 ….crackin blog …keep up the good work fella …..really appreciated owa here in rio de je qatar 🙂


  39. Good write up. Glad you mentioned the whingers – I often wanted to turn round and punch the idiots who sat behind me. I move seats instead! I hope this run continues.


  40. Toonsy -‘ but I was too busy perving at the girls in front of me in fairness.’

    me and my daughter were wondering who the letch was right behind us……

    Seriously though great match report. Must admit said to my daughter in the second half is it just me or is Perch playing really well? Think he used to play CB at Forest so maybe that’s where we’ve been going wrong – playing him out of position. Was disappointed he didn’t get more acknowledgment when he was playing well. Think he won bnearly every header he went up for, went in with some good tackles – credit where it’s due


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