Match highlights of our opening day win over Tottenham for you all to enjoy now, including a rather cheeky back pass from Steven Taylor to Tim Krul!
As I’m sure you’ll have read and indeed seen, it was hardly a vintage match from our perspective but we have three points to show for it which is the aim of the game I suppose. We scored more goals than they did. Canny difficult this football lark isn’t it?
Joking aside, the win reminded of how we started off last season in truth. Solid yet not spectacular but we still managed to grind out results. To do that with a bunch of players who have hardly played in pre-season isn’t bad at all in my mind and means that it can only get better once they all get up to speed.
Howay the lads!
@Begas
You jokin? I thought they were my Grandads quotes. 😀
Feckin lying ******* me Granda ! 😛
Troy Stavers(Quote)
Woo hoo hoo hoo hooo. 😛
This doesn’t get much better. 😛
Two bites on the end of my rod in one thread. 🙂
My bucket is overflowing with Aussie snappers! 🙂
Troy Stavers(Quote)
Aussie,
I refer to my statement @207
“Oh well, as long as they feel good in their own head I guess. The problem is, to the rest of the world, they just seem like a ***.
Otherwise if all else fails, just tell the guy he bit hard on the trap you set…”
You couldn’t write a better script… 😛 😉
JJ(Quote)
Troy,
Did you start this little episode simply to back up my statement @207?
If so, I must thank you, you are doing a sterling job!!! 😉 😆 😆 😆
JJ(Quote)
@Aussie
I know you are just trying to compose yourself and will come on and either ignore or humour me. Or you will try and say you’ve been out and just came back.
But that doesn’t explain what I’m seeing on google earth live with audio input.
” IM DEVASTATED THAT TROY HAS DONE ME BIG STYLE!! IM FECKIN LIVID! ”
Woo hoo hoooooooo hooooooooo
“I WILL HAVE TO POST ON THE NEXT THREAD AS IF NOWTS HAPPENED”
Woooo hoooo hooooo hoooooooooo
Troy Stavers(Quote)
Too true, JJ. Too true.
brisvegas(Quote)
@Aussie
It must have been so hard holding your anger back for so long as I always knew you used to chew on your boomerang when I taunted you.
Just out of interest, which straw did I use to finally break your camels back. ? Hmm? 🙂
I don’t mean camel literally, I mean from what I can see on google earth live you actually have a big hump on your back. 🙂 🙂 🙂
Troy Stavers(Quote)
Come on Troy, finish him off with a metaphor!!! 😆 😆 😆
JJ(Quote)
@Begas
Too true ! Too troo! Too troo!
Is that the reality train starting up? 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂
Aussie is now typing foooooriously with his nose but because it’s a pug nose he has, he keeps pressing the erase key. 🙂 🙂 🙂
Troy Stavers(Quote)
“which straw did I use to finally break your camels back”
There it is, a bit weak Troy, but still… right on queue…
JJ(Quote)
@Jj
I only use the metaphors to get the bite. It’s way past that stage. I’m more worried about his health at the moment. He’s jammed his his nose in the keyboard. :-):-):-)
It’s a funny sight. He’s banging his ute with a bush with a keyboard stuck on the end of his nose. 🙂 🙂 🙂
Troy Stavers(Quote)
“Troy Stavers
December 18, 2011 at 14:21
How can some of you say Barfa’s creativity has been missed? He’s done nowt since his injury and was never involved in the great run we had at the start of the season. He looked terrible in his last game.
Poor opinions.”
JJ(Quote)
“Troy Stavers
December 18, 2011 at 14:34
@rodz
What I do know is that Barfa may be an outstanding player but since his injury he’s been 3 yds off the pace.
That is fully understandable and he needs 6 months injury free to show his full potential again.
I’m not surprised a bit he’s been dropped because Best and Ba link up far better and are both fit.
Barfa needs a few reserve games before he is even considered for the first team again.”
JJ(Quote)
“Troy Stavers
December 18, 2011 at 17:27
@B’Toon
You ask how I think he Barfa performed in the City and United games.
At United he did a couple of decent balls and a run throughout the whole game, otherthan that, quiet for large parts of the game.
At City, quiet for large parts of the game. Trying to do too much instead of releasing the ball.
That’s from memory of watching it live.”
JJ(Quote)
It’s now timed at 70 mins since he flew off the handle.
Poor bloke. 😯
Remember what Grandad Les said on his death bed.
“Anger is a killing thing: it kills the man who angers, for each rage leaves him less than he had been before – it takes something from him.”
Troy Stavers(Quote)
Troy,
Never realised we were so similar in our thinking… I guess your opinion has changed too then?? 😆
Its seems your thinking at the time was in fact, very similar to mine?
JJ(Quote)
@JJ
Is there a point to your Barfa post?
Troy Stavers(Quote)
“Troy Stavers
December 18, 2011 at 15:12
@blackbartoon
HBA needs to start to add something more for us?
It’s like playing with ten men so it’s actually subtracting something from us. 😯 ”
“Troy Stavers
December 18, 2011 at 18:04
@b’Toon
He will be worse than Best and Oba at this moment in time. Easy. 😯 ”
I’m so glad you felt the same sentiments as me Troy, can you imagine how foolish you would seem had to actually tried to use my sentiments about Ben Arfa back then in a debate against me…
Man that would be foolish!! 😯
JJ(Quote)
@JJ
Are you sure you want to pursue this point as if you do you will quickly find out that my opinion has been consistent throughout.
Shall we debate it?
Troy Stavers(Quote)
@JJ
I see you replied as I was posting.
Let’s pursue it then.
Barfa was criticised by most when he came back from serious injury. I have never denied criticising him.
I always maintained it was like playing with 10 men at times. What you are failing to do is put in my other posts surrounding those comments stating he can’t be judged fully until this season now.
There is a huge difference from what you said.
I have never suggested selling him. You did.
On the contrary, I have always maintained he is super talented and as time progressed, particularly at the time when you were on about selling him, I was professing we should build the team around him.
Over to you JJ. 😉
Troy Stavers(Quote)
Troy,
I don’t see how we can debate it when it is clear our opinions about Ben Arfa have been very similar to each other.
We both felt he was being too selfish and needed to adapt his game to be worth a starting position.
The only difference being that I said I think if he didn’t come right by the end of the season we should sell him. And you said we should him him a spell in the reserves.
However, if he didn’t come right and continued to play as he was until the end of the season, would you not have sold him too?
Just find it odd how we had such similar sentiments yet you have continuously brought up my comments at the time to assist your debates?
Perhaps it was only because until this morning you never understood me sentiments and opinions correctly. In which case… we have no debate.
Quite simply, I agreed with you at the time. And you agreed with me…
JJ(Quote)
@Troy
You stated that at that moment in time he was worse than Best and Obertan.
JJ said that if he didn’t improve he would selling him.
I don’t agree with him but his opinion was understandable.
You are clinging on to the selling as if JJ continually brought it up and was adamant we should. It was a couple of off the cuff comments. Certainly not over-drawn as your Cabaye is overrated rubbish, when even when played defensively he was top notch (maybe not as good as attacking but most tackles in the league speaks for itself)
SolanosTrumpet(Quote)
@JJ
I’m not arguing for arguing sake. My point though is entirely different. I could see his potential. I never forsaw us selling him.
Im a huge advocate of skilful exciting footballers.
I knew he had pedigree once he came here and I researched him.
I’m sure you can see the difference.
Troy Stavers(Quote)
@Trumpet
Nothing I stated about Cabaye then is different to what I think now.
I say you are still wrong 😉
Regarding Barfa and this is to JJ, can you show me the thread where I said Best and Oba are better than Barfa at that time.
Over to you
Troy Stavers(Quote)
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TROY STAVERS
December 18, 2011 at 14:34
@rodz
What I do know is that Barfa may be an outstanding player but since his injury he’s been 3 yds off the pace.
That is fully understandable and he needs 6 months injury free to show his full potential again.
I’m not surprised a bit he’s been dropped because Best and Ba link up far better and are both fit.
Barfa needs a few reserve games before he is even considered for the first team again.
That was the truth at that time and I stand by it.
Absolutely different from suggesting that we should sell him.
Over to you.
Troy Stavers(Quote)
The point of all this Trumpet tho if you had followed this mornings debate and Aussies hissy fit which was bigger than your monumental one last week, was I was trying to balance the debate between JJ and Stardust.
Stardust was suggesting JJ could not identify a quality player. I was pointing out that JJ had suggested selling Barfa in the summer which assisted Stardusts theory.
Personally, I don’t believe either can spit a good player. 😉
Troy Stavers(Quote)
You’s two there or run from the debate? 😉
Troy Stavers(Quote)
JJ& Troy , I think many of us questioned Benny’s play back then ,I know I did.Quite simply he wasn’t a team player a lot of the time ,he was trying too hard to justify his adolation from a section of fans. Under Pards guidance he has improved dramaticly being a team player and mucurial talent in equal measure. He gives the team something others don’t ,the ability to change the game in an instant but we now have the extra dimension that he isn’t quite so selfish anymore which is reaping dividends. There isn’t the division on his abilty between fans as much as previously and that has arisen with the benefit of time and guidance from the coaching setup. The same could be said of Perch and Santon both of whom are getting better all the time . I would like to see Simmo given the same time to improve on his game as I don’t like to see players written off too soon .We forget how bad Colo was when he first arrived but look at him now.
kimtoon(Quote)
Troy
https://www.nufcblog.co.uk/2011/12/18/missed-chances-cost-nufc-dearly-newcastle-0-0-swansea/
Comment 78…
I never stated our views were identical. But I think very similar, because at that time, we both felt he didn’t fit in…
I wanted to give him to the end of the season. I think you said “we’ll judge him over the next six months”.
Very similar opinions if you ask me:
https://www.nufcblog.co.uk/2012/02/03/ben-arfa-mercurial-talent-or-just-a-highly-gifted-individual/
Reading your comment 9 after the article I wrote, you seemed to agree and understand with my sentiments exactly.as did your bro @ comment 62.
JJ(Quote)
So on topic we didnt really play well at all but still got a very good result…sign of a good team that! 😀
I am going to make a wild claim that we have the 3rd best strike force in the country other than mancs who else has better options in strikers?
However I am really hoping that pards spends a bit of money as we have spent next to nothing really in terms of net outgoings.
A CB and striker would be lovely and top four could be a reality
Liam Southern Toon(Quote)
@Trumpet
Do you see what happens when only a sentence out of a long post is used.
Best and Oba were better than Barfa at the time.
That’s what I mean about twisters. They twist quotes and misrepresent you. 😉
Troy Stavers(Quote)
Again I state,
I fail to understand why you have continuously brought up and criticized my opinions at the time, when your own opinions were almost identical to mine?
You felt he needed to improve and be dropped at the time, but where willing to give him until the end of the season to judge him…
Up to that point our opinions are identical, the only difference was that I ended it by saying, should he not show improvement, we should sell him.
Whereas, if he hadn’t shown the improvement that he has, I don’t know what you would have had us do…
The reality is, he has improved since then, and is a great asset to the squad.
JJ(Quote)
Troy
“Do you see what happens when only a sentence out of a long post is used.”
Are you not accussing people of doing exactly the same as what you did to me? 😐
JJ(Quote)
Phew, a long drive home from work is over and I have settled in with a beer… One post from Aussie = Ten posts in return 🙂 🙂 :-)I have certainly hit a nerve there. I ask the neutral blogger; who has gotten under who’s skin?? 1 nil to Aussie.. Poor Troy, he didn’t stand a chance 🙂 🙂 🙂 woo hoo hoo.. first he starts using my jokes, what next….
aussie magpie fan(Quote)
‘You can put a bullet in my head but you won’t kill a word I said – Mike Muir – Suicial Tendancies (band)
aussie magpie fan(Quote)
@Troy
Fairplay that JJ twisted that. But that is your staple. And I still believe his views on HBA are being exaggerated.
SolanosTrumpet(Quote)
@JJ
I can’t keep explaining it over and over again.
Im sure it’s fair to say that Barfa came with a huge reputation. He had a blinding debut.
He got injured, came back and injured again.
He was simply not up to pace for months after his return.
I from the outset stated Barfa needed time to prove himself.
By the time you made your comments in January I still maintained he needed time and this season is his chance to prove himself.
He has always had the ability so why would you want to sell him before he’s had a chance to prove himself?
There’s a huge difference in what we are saying.
Troy Stavers(Quote)
Solano,
Where did I twist what?
Troy stated that Ba and Best linked up better than Ben Arfa with either at the time and thus shouldn’t be dropped for him. Which is what Troy said.
JJ(Quote)
Troy,
Where did I say the we shouldn’t give Ben Arfa a chance until the end of the season?
Did you not read my thread in February? Or are you going off one random comment taken out of context?
Read the thread… Then tell me how different my opinion was you yours?
I’m starting to think you are arguing just for the sake of arguing now…
JJ(Quote)
Let’s see whether it will be;
A. Humour = total false cover up
B. More abuse and anger= confirmation of his seethingness.
Or
C. Ignore me = absolutely furious he can’t bring himself to type cos he’s bit his fingers off in such a tissy.
D. Or you will try and say you’ve been out and just came back from dropping the kids off.
Wooo ooo hooooo hoooo hoooo. 🙂 🙂 🙂
It’s a mixture of all 3 🙂 :-):-)
Cheeses Faussie! 🙂 Yikes! What a laugh I’ve had this morning.
How’s the ute?
Got the keyboard off your nose yet? 🙂 🙂 🙂
Troy Stavers(Quote)
I’ll quote the last bit for you…
JJ Feb 2012:
“We constantly hear from Alan Pardew about Ben Arfa’s incredible self confidence, which as a top sportsman is a fantastic attribute to have. Another former Frenchman, Lauren Robert had it in abundance, and he turned out to be a fine player for us. Ben Arfa has the potential to be far superior!
However, he must realise, that in a team sport like football, no one player can consider himself above another.
You need those ten other players on the pitch, and you need to respect and trust each other.
I still have high hopes that Ben Arfa can become the player we all know he has the talent to be, but only time will tell if he has the mentality to fit in.
What are your thoughts? Does Ben Arfa just need some time, or he just too much of an individual luxury for us right now?”
Still think our opinions are very different?? Would you like to argue some more?? 😆
JJ(Quote)
@JJ
So what you are saying is if he didn’t show the form that he did at the end of the season you would have sold him?
What I’m saying is, he always had this talent, I can’t believe you couldn’t see it.
That is what Stardust was getting at.
Can you not see why that is a reasonable point?
Troy Stavers(Quote)
@JJ
I will simplify it;
You say that you would sell him if he did not show any improvement from January.
I say, he’s absolute class and he needs a full season to show his ability. That is why I would not sell him.
I knew he had it, you didn’t otherwise you wouldn’t have suggested selling him without having a full season under his belt.
Troy Stavers(Quote)
Anyway I’ve got to go out and bash the car with a bush and keyboard on the end of my nose and chewing on a boomerang.
I don’t want Aussie to feel he’s all alone. 🙂 :-):-):-):-) 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂
10 smileys
Troy Stavers(Quote)
Troy,
No, as I stated several times his ability and potential was never in doubt.
What I was getting at was that if we failed to find a system, and he failed to adjust to our system by the end of the season, that we should sell him.
I also said:
“I suppose it is not really fair to judge him now, because he has only recently started to get some decent game time, and he hasn’t had the best of strikers to provide ammunition for.
It is difficult to put in crosses and through balls for strikers that are always stationary (Shola).
Perhaps it is this lack of confidence in our available strikers which causes him to be a bit more selfish? If that’s the case I don’t blame him. It may be a different story when he is supplying the likes of Demba Ba and Papiss Demba Cisse.”
It turns out, that side of the arguement proved to be the correct on, because he has faired far better with more mobile strikers who have better anticipation. He came good towards the end of the season, and the rest is history.
Stardust on the other hand said:
Is it not true that less that 6 months ago you were slating Ben Arfa – saying he was USELESS and should be sold?
That my friend is a very different arguement, and a complete lie… If I was calling Ben Arfa useless, then by Stardusts definition, so were you…
JJ(Quote)
Just admit we had very similar sentiments at the time and that your mate Stardust lied and then the debate is over…
JJ(Quote)
Blimey, it’s raining handbags in here! 😯
Here’s a new thought – as an attempt to get us talking about bloody anything else but who said what about whom, when. For those of us who:
1. Consider Ashley and his mob to be crooks who are not to be trusted (that would include me)
2. Want Ashley to sell the club (that would definitely NOT include me).
If you read the article below, you’ll get an idea of how much worse things could be. I work on the basis that there are no decent, honest football organisations; just varying degrees of crooks. If you’re going to be owned by one (all clubs are, imho), choose one that is at least bloody good at his job, and considers part of that job to keep his football club healthy.
The Glazers. There are not enough bedsheets in the whole of Manchester to do what we’d to to Ashley if he did what they’re doing. Just as well most of their supporters can’t make the trip from Surrey to demonstrate, eh?
http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/glazers-gain-75m-in-manchester-united-stock-market-float-8030537.html
The key bit: of the £150m raised, £75m will go not to the club but into the Glazers’ pockets. Can you IMAGINE what we’d do if Ashley tried that??
Better the devil you know. Big time.
Whumpie(Quote)
If you can’t do that, then just do what you normally do…
Tell me I bit big time, that I must be seething, and throw in a metaphor with some smiley faces to declare yourself the victor in the debate… 😛 😛 😛
JJ(Quote)
Whumpie,
Who the hell do you think you are trying to bring some constructive football conversation onto this thread!! 😛
JJ(Quote)
I’ll get me coat… 😳
Whumpie(Quote)
Troy
http://bit.ly/SbZdIf 😉 😆
JJ(Quote)
Jesus, even King Kev is coming out in support of the direction the club’s going in. We must be on to something!
Seriously – is there anyone who, right now, would be happy if Ashley sold up to some unknown foreign lot? Anyone?
Whumpie(Quote)
So, is the game on Thursday going to be televised, can’t wait to see how the youngsters get on in Greece.
JJ(Quote)
Whumpie,
Ideally, I’d like Ashley to sell say 10% of the club to an organised supporters group, so that we had some kind of representation. But if that supporters group came to agreements as well as the lot on this blog, I can see why it would never work…
The rest for now, apart from praying we buy a central defender, I wouldn’t change a thing.
Just hope there are no bad surprises before deadline day.
JJ(Quote)
JJ – couldn’t have put it better meself. We may yet see that 10%; I suspect Ashley would like to see the resentment towards him bubble down a bit beforehand, though.
Whumpie(Quote)
JJ
Seriously fella you need to take a look at yourself.
I provide an inside line with information known to players who know a player.
You go on a foul mouthed rant at me stating those ex-pro’s weren’t good enough to make it, that they were somehow bitter at their failure and Saylors success – yot you haven’t got a clue who they were, how good they were etc etc ad-infinitum.
You then go on a number of posts attacking my general personality – and use words that I should leave the blog. When all you should have done is ignore and disregard the post if you weren’t interested.
Thereon I (because you had attacked ex-players opinions (without foundation) I suggested that your view (as an example of Ben Arfa) shows on a simple level I would choose to believe an ex-pro who knew someone over you.
Then you try to accuse me of lying? Hilarious. I have seen Troy challenge you on this view for 6 months – so I have formed an opinion. JJ in a court of England and Wales – you can’t not challenge an opinion and label it as a lie. Simply because we all have opinions. Not once did I post a lie. Not once did I post a quote. I posted an opinion on a matter.
Now you say I am a liar. So far you have nothing to base that on as your thoughts are based on your opinion my opinion was unfair. So in fact YOU are the liar – as I have not told any lies, I have offered an opinion.
Now having been shown to lower the tone of the blog quite crudely – you have tried to shift the reason for your (I imagine) drink fuelled rants to a new argument. Ie the lies. You did not use profanity because of a lie (which wasn’t 😆 )
Now you attempt to regain a moral high. But you can’t because as you can see – I am sitting on a furry cloud just next to god and you are sitting at the bottom of a slurry pit looking up and smelling bad.
So – in an English Court of law – your above argument is broken and I win the case.
In a battle field duel, I turned up for pistols at dawn with a loaded weapon (my brain in case your not following) and you turned up with a pea shooter 😆
Now apologise and we can move on 😆
Stardust(Quote)
JJ i will say again from another thread when stevo asked re-game,ch5 have given up there rights to show footy,(spent there money on big brother *****) itv4 now have rights and are showing the toon game thing is i cannot find if its the home or away leg as they are only showing one up to this moment in time 🙁
icedog(Quote)
F*ck there have been some long posts the last few days. I guess that is what it takes to prove yourself right and in turn, to never to be wrong.. ever 🙂
aussie magpie fan(Quote)
Stardust,
Not even going to bother reading your thread… Its over fella…
You don’t have my respect, and I don’t care if I don’t have yours.
Lets move on…
JJ(Quote)
‘August 19, 2012 at 22:56 – JJ Posted
“https://www.nufcblog.co.uk/2012/02/03/ben-arfa-mercurial-talent-or-just-a-highly-gifted-individual/
Here is the article I wrote, that both Troy and Stardy have accused me of saying Ben Arfa is useless and should be sold.
I think you’ll find the contents is far different… And perhaps even, still relevant to a degree”
You see JJ – you’re being shown to be very dishonest. You posted this article and suggested this is where I formed my opinion on. CLEARLY I did not get it on that thread – I don’t even post on it.
My word fella – looks like there is only one person here who tells porkies and cried when the are in the wrong (using crass and vile words and behaviour)
Takes a man to apologise when they’ve made a chump of themselves.
Oh and I take back the comment comparing your intellect to a pea shooter – for fear of insulting all other pea shooters in the world. 😆
Stardust(Quote)
Congratutions Stardust, you have formed your entire arguement based on a random quote taken out of context, despite, an entire thread written at the same period suggesting my opinion what not what you made out…
You are making an even bigger *** of yourself, if thats even possible…
Going to ignore you now so make up whatever more lies you like… I’ve moved on… 😆
JJ(Quote)
Oh dear JJ – not reading because you’ve made a bit of a “chump” of yourself?
Deal with the above fella – you’ve lowered the tone of the blog. Its a debating forum – you’ve been shown to be dishonorable.
If you can’t answer those two posts I will rest my case and let the jury decide their verdicts.
Ladies and Gentleman of the Jury – I ask you to come to verdicts
Count 1 – ‘Is JJ man enough to apologise?
Count 2 – Has JJ made a bit of a chump of himself by changing arguments and crying like a baby howler monkey separated from its mother – just like the wife beater who cries for sympathy when they are arrested.
Well JJ – are you man enough to own up?
Tailor – get the dresses at the ready – can you make a JJ sized on – with a pouch for a king sized pet lip and a hiifyfit sized handbag to match.
Stardust(Quote)
This getting like an episode of Days of Our Lives!
aussie magpie fan(Quote)
Ice,
I hope it gets televised here. Havn’t really got the opportunity to see the youngsters over here.
I see that ***** Stardust is still frantically bashing away in a frazzle on his keyboard. What-a-*****… 😆
JJ(Quote)
Sorry, more like Rumpole of the Bailey
aussie magpie fan(Quote)
@JJ
I accept your response in relation to my point I raised.
But, don’t mix me in with yours and Stardusts dispute.
I never said you called Barfa useless. I even pointed that out earlier.
I was trying to even out the debate as I thought Stardust was making a valid point about what you said about Barfa and you were disputing it.
Troy Stavers(Quote)
@aussie
What is for certain, a post, no matter how long it is, where you clearly show months of pent up anger explode like a cataclysmic event, demonstrates the poster has had a full blown hissy fit.
Wooo hoooo hoooo hoo:-). :-). :-). 🙂
Troy Stavers(Quote)
Ignoring the histrionics going on …
I got all excited when I saw Live Europa League in the programme guide for Friday morning. Then found out it’s Hearts v Liverpool. 👿
This love affair with Liverpool on Australian TV has got to end. Looks like I’ll be joining those tortured souls that ask for links every game. Never having done that sort of thing before, can anybody point me in a direction where I might start investigating.
And one for the techies – how easy is it to plug a laptop into a TV and will it compromise the picture quality if I can do it?
brisvegas(Quote)
Troy,
I realise you thought Stardust had made a valid point. But clearly he took his statement out of context and I think that debate has been put to rest now that you understand the my true opinion on Benny back then were in fact similar to yours.
Anyway, I accept your apology. 😉 😛 …
Now the only debate remaining, is how long will Stardy bash away on his keyboard for before he realises I don’t give a **** about anything he has to say? 😀
JJ(Quote)
AMF/JJ ime fed up with the whole show to be honest and have been reading other blogs and keep comeing back hopeing its at a end,as ive said to dave everyone has a view which i maybe dont agree but respect,but ive found silence hurts more than a reply 😉
icedog(Quote)
JJ – good try to swerve but the fact I have not posted on that thread suggests I did not read it. So where did my opinion form from ? On threads and over time. My opinion was not a divine intervention – you have shaped it. You have been challenged on it for months.
So again – please demonstrate how I am a liar?
BUT for the record this debate did not start at this element, you have introduced it as a distraction. You ridiculed ex-players without foundation thereon you projected their opinions at me and called me a ‘*****’ for relaying information.
You lowered the tone of the blog in a unabashed foul mouthed tirade. Then you try to change to reason for the argument starting.
You’ve been found out JJ – you have no honour, class or integrity.
So JJ – you look extremely dishonest, machaevellian and scurillous -. You sir are a rapscallion!
Sir I throw my glove at you.
Stardust(Quote)
icedog@282 – ITV4 are showing the home leg. I don’t think there’s any UK coverage of the away leg. Kim thought it might be being shown just on ITV.com but I can’t find any info.
Jon R(Quote)
Ice,
I finished long ago, he’s still bashing away…
JJ(Quote)
You know what Vegas, I just scanned thro foxtel and got excited by espn and then realised it was showing liverpool about 10 minutes ago.. no viewers choice ?? Pissed off…
Ice, I know what you are saying.. the truth is that you and I are the only ones that are never wrong 🙂 🙂 🙂
aussie magpie fan(Quote)
AMF@299 true mate very true 😆 😆 who could disagree with that 😉
icedog(Quote)