Granted it’s a bitter medicine which is made more tolerable when results go your way, but when they don’t and you end up on a run like we are on right now then you have to start wondering what is going on.
Many of you longer-term readers will know that I’m the champion of long-term stability. I’ve got behind Alan Pardew from day one, mainly because he has to do well for us to do well, which worked last season, but now I’m left wondering if now is the time for change as we battle to stay in the Premier League.
I keep reading mixed opinions on it from fans of NUFC. To me the divide seems pretty split on the future of Alan Pardew as manager of Newcastle United. Some blame him for our results, others say that the lack of backing from the board has been a key factor, some will cite injuries as a factor and others will just ask who would be willing to come and work under Hinge and Bracket and the policies they so love to dictate.
So I thought I’d set out a poll and see what the opinion on this site is. Is the mass opinion that he must go or is it a vocal minority who are making themselves heard? I don’t know so please cast your vote now and leave a comment below.
[poll id=”73″]
if we stay up i believe we will be good next season but i think new scenery might be needed if we are gonna stay. not completely pardew’s fault but change in manager might bring new hunger for the team
ron(Quote)
Yesterday was a disaster but still has time on his side. We need to see who comes through the transfer window before such a big decision is made.
Whatever he said at the start of the season doesn’t take away the fact we do actually have a poor squad. Under investment in the summer has affected the morale of the team. This has reflected on their performances.
If I thought Ashley would appoint a decent manager then I may have a different view but I don’t believe we could attract one and therefore I don’t believe a change would help.
I would keep the faith as I’ve witnessed other managers in similar situations turn things round and it makes the club stronger in the long run.
Troy Stavers(Quote)
Although we can vote all we want but we all know mike ashley will not fire him after giving him 8 years contract. But if we lose against villa thats another matter
ron(Quote)
sadly 15 togo 5 home 10 away =deep dodo
tomasso(Quote)
I think he deserves to go. Who would we get to replace him though?
clink(Quote)
I cannot see the club sacking him but for the benefit of those not in the ground yesterday there was a lot of venom from the stands towards the manager and it was an unpleasant atmosphere. When does AP say enough is enough? and walks
Toby le Rhone(Quote)
I want him sacked, but only at the end of the season.
Its not a fair situation for a new manager coming in now… Fair enough, if he gets playing decent stuff and we move up the table to 11th 12th then I’ll be proved wrong.
But I think at best with investment he’ll get us to just survive. 16th 17th place. That isn’t good enough and combined with his **** ups, we should be looking at better options to take us forward.
Some think he could learn from his mistakes. Not many managers are afforded this many mistakes. He should count himself very lucky.
JJ(Quote)
He is a one trick pony and he has been found out now by other teams. He needs to get some balls and stop making poor excuses for mistakes and tight *** ma. We need two defenders at least and a decent striker. Darren bent with experience and new change of scenery could re ignite his career. Would rather see gianfranco Zola as our manager. Pardew is way out his depth. Some big changes need to come quick. I kepty faith in pardew up until the reading game but now I’m done we need a fresh face to give the team a kick up the *** and push on
Legendbigal(Quote)
Stick with him (for now). Has made some terrible tactical decisions recently, some of which I think may have been forced upon him during gamed (injuries etc). Dropped a ******* against reading taking marveux off. I remember Everton had s good season, qualified for Europe and just avoided relegation the next – there doing ok since. Villa massive game. It wasn’t all doom and gloom yesterday. There were some positives – Cisse looked like he’d played football before, cabaye. We’ll b ok – fingers crossed
gch(Quote)
I can only repeat what I’ve siad on the previous thread. I was furious yesterday, but I have now had a chance to calm down and take stock. I think people should read the following quotes from Pards of today before they rush to call for him to be sacked.
“I think we need to re-assess this situation a little bit because the scenario isn’t good at this moment in time surrounding this football club. I’ve said before that the fans here are more knowledgeable than they’re given credit for, and when they start booing the players, I think it might be one of those situations just to tell you a bit. You have to learn from that, if I’m an honest. If they’re telling the players they don’t know what they’re doing, you have to take notice of that. I was blaming the Europa League scenario a little bit and the injuries, but I think the fans might have a point sometimes. You have to recognise and accept that.”
I need to speak to Colo next week or the week after because Colo needs to understand that sometimes you need to say things that hurt a little bit, but you have to stand and be counted like a man and I’m sure he will see that. I won’t be commenting on the Colo situation but I can tell you it has nothing to do with his wife or me or his wife and me. I think one of the problems with this football club, if I’m honest, is that the top continental players find the scenario is too cold here, a little bit, and I think the fans understand that and that will always be a problem for any manager here. We only want to see committed players here, looking at the right mentality, and so we do our homework to make sure of that. We don’t give players big five year contracts, 100%, if we think they mightn’t have the right mentality or can’t play in the cold. But sometimes we might have to rely on those players like Nile and Xisco who have the big five year contracts and the wrong mentality because of the situation that we find ourselves in. The scenario this week with Remy was that I asked him to come up on Tuesday, and the flight was booked, but I had to tell him so that he would know this is a strange city, a little bit, and it is a bit colder and it wasn’t a shock. I have to tell him that. I only come in at the end to tell players this. He didn’t leave his hotel and preferred to stay warm and play FIFA. Sometimes you do the homework and it doesn’t always work but I think the fans understand that scenario a little bit. We did the homework with Colo and he has been fantastic for this club. I don’t know how cold it is in Argentina but the cold here is not a problem for Colo. I must tell the fans that the cold has nothing to do with the Colo scenario.
Mike and Derek have done wonders if I’m honest. Three years ago, before I came to this club, if you gave the fans a scenario that we’d have French internationals like Johan and Hattam and Matthieu and Sylvan, and top African players courted by the top clubs, with top young Italian and Dutch talent, they’d have been thanking Mike, 100%. I said I was 100% happy with the squad at the start of the season and anything else would just be the icing on the cake. But the FA Cup made us all think a little bit about that and I think the fans are knowledgeable enough to see that some of these kids might not be ready yet, a little bit, and might need to go out on loan for a year or two. I had to tell them that. I think we might need to do just a bit, possibly two or three new faces in the playing department, so I’ll be asking Mike and Derek to do a bit more if they can on that scenario, and I’m confident about that. Yesterday’s performance has certainly increased the discussion mode on that.
I don’t need to tell Mike and Derek because they see it themselves at the games sometimes like yesterday because the pressure can build a little bit in this place on days like that. They are two strong characters who I respect a lot, and sometimes that sort of situation might get to you a bit if I’m honest when they’re sitting right behind you if you’re not strong enough. You might not make the right decisions a little bit. I didn’t want to take two flair players off in that scenario but I took Marv off and then Johann who had already told me at half time he was struggling. You can’t always predict these scenarios. I might have done things differently sometimes and I think Mike and Derek know that. We really only have two strikers at this club. I should have put a striker on at that point to give us extra impetus, but I did not have that option. Shola’s triffic, but he can’t train all week and that might show a little at times and we can’t always rely on him. We don’t play Sunderland every week. I think the fans understand what I mean by that.
Nile has said one or two things following the game, criticising the fans, and he wouldn’t be here, like I said a few months back, 100%, and I’ll need to speak to him about that next week or the week after. He was on the bench but I couldn’t use him and the fans will understand that. Same for Steven. He was on the bench but I couldn’t use him. It’s frustrating for a manager when you get a scenario like that. Sometimes you can’t use a player in certain situations because of the scenario that you’re in. I said this week that our game plan that we had last year and the way we played might need to change to just make sure that we continue being a stable Premier League side. Papiss is not doing it for us at this moment in time, if I’m honest, because our midfield has not been strong this season. I think the fans know that but sometimes one or two need to understand that you just need to defend games with some of your flair players at times when you’re at home against teams like Reading, who showed in the first half that they can be dangerous.
I will be suggesting to Mike and Derek that they might need to do something else on a Saturday a little bit because sometimes in these scenarios you need time to think about it without added pressures from them. I was looking to John and Steve to help me out in that substitution scenario a little bit, and they are triffic in those situations, but we might need to look at that a little bit. I would never say never again after what happened with big Andy, but John and Steve will be here for eight years with me, definitely 100%, but they might need a little bit of help if I’m honest and I will need to speak to Mike about that. We are not far away from being a very good side.
I can stand up to this pressure. I’m used to these scenarios at my previous clubs. I always said that this season might need to be one of consolidation and it is about educating the fans to that scenario. I think ‘m being proved right on that, if I’m honest.”
Blackley & Brownlie(Quote)
how can you go from manager of the year to this. I do believe he has bee n unlucky with injuries and the lack of backing from the non footballing mockneys, but yesterday was unbelievable he took off our three best players and replaced them with two defensive midfielders and a headless chicken. the vast majority of the crowd turned on him yesterday.I just cannot see what benifit that has for him or the team as we are all in deep dodar at the moment. HWTL
chaddas(Quote)
Clink
Dimateo is looking for a job he can be no worse than I’m up your **** mike pardew
spider(Quote)
He should have gone 2 months ago.
We would not be in this position if he had of been replaced with somebody with at least some positivity and belief in his players.
The man insufferable.
ToonBano(Quote)
Yes it’s time for him to go, that should be obvious to eveyone.
He has shown his inability throughout his tenure here, to understand the modern game. resorting to a direct style that is only played by people like BSA and Pulis.
But on saying that, they play it well, both managers who understand the tactical side very well, who are in control and play a very controlled game.
We lose most games under Pardew, mainly in the second half, where we seldom adapt or change tactics, constantly being out-thought by the opposition and never change tactics while in the middle of either period.
If leading at the beginning of the second half, it’s a given we put ten men behind the ball, instead of attempting to bury the opposition.
We dont know how to play the catenaccio style, ten men behind the ball and await the fast break opportunity.
I honestly see no rhyme or reason behind Pardews game, he’s a great yes man, but we need a manager who understands the game.
Hey! Ashley can beside our recent recruits bring in Ronaldo and Messi, but as long as this guy is in control, we will still be relegated..
chuck(Quote)
If i’m honest I voted No. He’ll turn it round with some backing from the board.
As I have said some of his bullshit scares me as do his subs yesterday etc etc but I just can’t see any further past JFK as a replacement, because I really can’t see a good manager taking us on, if I did believe 100% that we would get a top manager in I would drive him in myself 😀
I think somany things have conspired towards the position we are in now and they’re not all Pards fault, but to round it off I think Pards is starting to build a cross for his back when he starts to point fingers at the fans 😈
Big Dave(Quote)
BLACKLEY & BROWNLIE there must be a lot of foreign players that are disappointed they came to Britain due to the cold? I live in Kent now and there’s snow outside; and in the winter it is freezing! I grew up in the north-east, and was stationed in Germany, and I can tell you the south of France is on the Mediterranean-not the north! Maybe the best players play in Spain?
Geordie down south(Quote)
GDS – Kent – That’s tropical!
Blackley & Brownlie(Quote)
B+B I answered you on the last thread but save you the bother
B+B @ 66 😆 😆 😆 😆 if im honest thats one of the best posts you have made 😉
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So if your honest do you think he should still be sacked ❓
Big Dave(Quote)
B&B
All that does it make me think Pardew is a bigger clueless #%# than I originally thought…
He keeps saying “if I’m honest” – he should always be honest to the fans.
Says the crowed are booing the players – NO they were booing his decisions!
Says he needs to speak to Colo, says sometimes you need to say things that hurt but stand up and be counted – this tells me Colo’s personal problems are with PARDEW himself. He has lost belief in his manager.
Says he was 100% happy with his squad but the kids have proved to be not ready and should go out on loan for a year of two – NO **** SHERLOCK, every man and his dog knew this except for you it seems.
Then goes on to blame the cold for many top players not signing… FFS why even mention the cold??? That’s like me being offered a job and the interview saying, ‘right we know you want to sign with us but just be warned, it sucks living here… So are you sure you want this???’
Comes across as a bullshitter, and completely clueless utter tool!!! He should be promoting the club, not putting doubt in top players minds!! FFS.
Says Cabaye told him at half time he was injured – so why take Marveaux off then? Yesterday he said “how could I predict Cabaye wouldn’t last?”
Says the midfield haven’t created enough for Cisse – why does he play such a defensive midfield and bench the creative players.
Says Ranger was on the bench but he couldn’t use him/ same with Saylor – why put them on the bench then!!!
Says Shola can’t train every day and it shows, we don’t play Sunderland every week – of course it shows, he can’t last 20 mins, so why keep him and why play him 90 $%# minutes!!!
JJ(Quote)
well – sacking managers hasn’t done us any favours yet has it?
I support Newcastle UNITED. And that include everyplayer on the book whether they be good bad or indifferent, it includes the manager and it includes the board. This is my club I’ve supported as a boy and the thought of “booing” any one of them makes me feel sick to my stomach. We are all in this together and need to stick together.
Booing your own team is ******* disgusting. Like a spoilt child who expects everything will be done for him and that the world is perfect? Time to realise it isn’t and only one team can win the league and 3 will go down. Booing our own team speeds the decent towards the latter – there is no positive outcome comes from it.#
Graham Yeoman(Quote)
We are DEEP in the sh*t. And it’s partly disruptive players (Colo) appalling injuries, (Ashleys fault for not strengthening a wafer thin squad) poor quality defenders, bad luck, but most of all the technically naiive incompetence of Pardew.
Can you imagine Martinez struggling with the players Pardew has ? He has a technical ability. Pardew hasn’t.
We are in deep sh*t I’d say mainly due to Pardew. The stupidity of an 8 year contract to a bloke who keeps getting the sack at lesser clubs……I’m lost for words. His substitutions yesterday showed just WHY he got the sack there.
Phil K(Quote)
BB @16… ffs … are those **** words realy from AP.. what a fuking tool. i dont know where to even start with that lot of mumbo jumbo utter **** he has spewed out.. the guy is a complete and utter idiot and no i do not think sack him… i think keep him and let the whole lot go down together to the CCC and prob lower the way we are heading. AP has lost the dressing room totally.. and his last two brain cells… still cant belive he has said that lot … incredible ahhaha… what a first class cok end.
craig chisholm(Quote)
BD – I think he should never have been appointed in the first place. I think he will take us down. I predict he will be sacked. I’ve been saying it since November that he will be sacked around about now. If he gets sacked now, he and the people who back him will say he was never given the chance. I don’t want to be accused of that. You should try to give him as long as your nerve will hold out. I want him to prove me wrong but my nerve won’t hold out much longer.
Blackley & Brownlie(Quote)
The way Chelski are ripping Arsenal apart doesn’t bode well for our next home game
Toby le Rhone(Quote)
@MsiDouglas: Understand Yanga-Mbiwa deal is at an advanced stage. More so than Remy was. MYM be unveiled in early part of next week. #nufc
3hourswasted(Quote)
sorry.. BB@10…see.. i was stunned by the waffle.
craig chisholm(Quote)
BLACKLEY & BROWNLIE You’ll have smug London’s taking their shirts off next. Oh, no-we, do that! There are not many QPR fans eating ice cream down at Hastings right now. We don’t have the ninety mile an hour winds down here; but this isn’t St Tropez. Thought I was clever taking my London umbrella home; the North east winds kicked the **** out of it. Went back down south with my flap cap!
Geordie down south(Quote)
More excuses from pardew and nothing on his own failings. Now it’s the cold that’s the problem.
I’m not asking for a similar finish to last season but there is no way, even with the lack of investment, that this squad has gone from top 6 to relegation fodder.
We have enough quality to be organized and execute a game plan. There is no way reading had more talent on the pitch yesterday than we had. But they had a game plan to create chances whilst, for the last months, we rely on a single cutting pass and the quality of individual players to create chances.
We have no structure, a poor game plan and the players are lost out there on pitch and its not because they are suddenly ****. It’s because they have no leadership and direction from their manager.
The lack of goals from set plays is more evidence to this. How difficult is it to work out a plan for the day to create a chance. No we constantly aim for Willo dispite the fact he has never scored and I can never remember a time in which a goal came through him.
This lack of direction is putting a lot of pressure on the lads and they have their heads down. Pardew has lost them and that makes it very dangerous for us to keep him. All these months he has shown no signs of having the ability to come up with a plan to turn things around.
We need a change if only to give the players hope because last night they looked a side with no direction except down.
JerseyGeordie(Quote)
B+B well he was never even in my thoughts when he was appointed but I do think he hasn’t had the full backing of the Regime so for me I think if he is given proper support from them now he has a better chance of keeping us up than anyone that I could see us getting to replace him.
Don’t get me wrong I see lots of things about him that I can’t stand and I do know that his tactics etc arn’t good enough but I honestly cant believe we will get a better manager while the Regime is running the club the way they are, it was criminal neglect that they didn’t build on from last season.
Big Dave(Quote)
Where is that huge block of Pardew from?
Who actually types “triffic”? It has to be a spoof or something.
funkyjesus(Quote)
there is nothing that can be done to save us from relegation. its a done deal. AP is the tip of the iceberg..In life in private or work life, there is only one way to solve any problem truly, i mean proper solve it… you must go to your root causes. In this case the root cause of nufc being fuked is fat boy mike. nothing will improve until he either sells or changes his stance and A) sacks dekka and gets a footballing chairperson in, B), sacks AP and actually decides to pay real money to get a real manager and C).. actually spend some money on the pitch. He does not seem to have grasped any of that so think its is a nailed on 100% cert we are relegated and furthermore, we will stay relegated.
craig chisholm(Quote)
FJ im surprised that wasn’t asked before 😆 😆
Big Dave(Quote)
Craig @ 31 I agree with you but IMO the sacking of Pards would need to be down last after everything else is done so that we then have the chance of getting a proper replacement in
Big Dave(Quote)
You cannot blame a manager for making bad decisions in one game, as bad as they were yesterday, but what we are looking at is a trend that has being going on all season and if you had to draw a graph of this it would surely point down to the Championship. Fans I think have been admirable in their patience but it has gone too far. We have also failed to develop the reserves – they can’t all be rubbish. Jonas, on the other hand, has been rubbish since the beginning of the season and Shola, who cannot play 90 minutes, has been little better, yet why were the majority of fans shocked but not surprised to see them both starting yesterday – Pardew I’m afraid.
Groucho(Quote)
Bb – sounds like he wants a decent deputy??
I’m actually starting to warm to the board. We sure as hell aren’t buying rubbish Anita debuchy Mbwia possibly should have had remy de Jong and Douglas from the summer.
These are all internationals not championship players. The trouble for me is pards could make that a reality.
I just am not sure he is that bright. I’m no tactical genius but Marv should have stayed on why does evrry fan realise and pards not?
It’s worrying. This isn’t the first time though.
Liam southern toon(Quote)
Honestly can’t see Fatboy sacking Pardew. He’s too far up his ****, and would probably need an operation to remove him.
Pardew is Fatboy’s right-hand man and his spokesperson. They’re two peas in a pod. I wish they’d both **** off, and take their snivelling little owl-rat with them. It ain’t gona happen though, so for the meantime I’ll just live in hope that we actually do something positive this transfer window.
Our failure to do so last summer is primarily where the blame lies. It was obvious to all (almost) that we’d struggle once our inevitable injuries kicked in, as we don’t have enough (experienced) talent in our squad. Losing Cabaye and Ben Arfa has been devastating, and Ba going has left us with as much creativity and goal threat as a hippopotamus on roller skates. Pardew makes some strange tactical decisions, although he’s not helped by our waffeur thin squad.
I say keep him until the end of the season and see where we finish. It’s too late in the day to sack him now. My gut says he’s not up to it, but we don’t need any more drama at this moment in time. Pardew doesn’t seem to have much of a say in transfers anyway, so a potential new manager next season after splashing out on players would be no biggie. Sign at least THREE players this window and, in my opinion, we’re saved – CB, LB, STR. A decent winger would be nice too, someone who can actually cross the ball. What I’d give for a Solano at the moment.
Ahh well, I’ll look forward to February and our players coming back from injury being LIKE new signings. (If Pardew says that one more time I’m chucking my laptop through the front window).
Rodzilla(Quote)
A good post by Blackley and Brownlie of the interview with Alan Pardew.
IMHO Pardew should stay. Ashley has clearly made many mistakes which on the whole he has rectified, he has clearly attempted to bring stability to the club which in the past has been a complete circus much to everyone else’s amusement.
Major issues: Lack of investment in defensive players in the summer ?!
Generally threadbare squad of genuine 1st team players
Injuries ( Ben Arfa, Cabaye, Saylor, Raylor)
Suspensions & ANC ( Tiote !! Williamson, Colo)
Not good enough ( Williamson, Obertan, Ameobi x2, Ranger
Gosling, Perch, Amalfitano, xisco ?! the list goes on and on)
The balance between financial stability and strength and depth on the pitch has been wrong, potential last minute signings at this club have failed – miserably.
This coming week is a huge week for this club, if two quality players DO NOT come in and we DO NOT beat Villa then we really are up the proverbial creek without a paddle.
Keep the Faith & keep Pardew ( for the time being)
James Mercer(Quote)
The board may not have backed Pardew as much as they should, and we should certainly have got another class CB in Summer. However, we have in my opinion, got some excellent players who are not being managed right and that is down to Pardew, no one else.
Groucho(Quote)
I went for unsure. I’ve definitely lost faith in him, but with some new players, with some returning players and with the rub of the green we should still come good. Just hope it’s not all too late by then.
Newkie(Quote)
So is pardew looking for a another coach to help him?
Alex(Quote)
there are some immense players we could get. we could get lampard on a end of season loan deal, give him 200k a week and another million if we stay up and make him captain. get in lescott for 5 miilion… the bloke is class.. there are **** loads of deals to be done.. you godda want to do it.. you have to have the stomach for the fight… our owner,chairman and manager are total fukwits who are lost in the premiership… lost.
craig chisholm(Quote)
Big Dave,
It also implies that Pardew has been doing Colo’s wife which no one had suggested previously, lol.
Has to be a joke.
funkyjesus(Quote)
I don’t think AP should be fired. He had one brilliant season followed by a pathetic season ( not buying in the summer and injuries are mostly to be blamed). If we survive then give hime one more season and see what happens. Just hope the board backs him.
southafricantoon(Quote)
Did reading have better players on show yest?
Yes he hasn’t had the backing in the summer but this still is not a relegation side.
But his lack of management is turning us into one.
JerseyGeordie(Quote)
@37… mike has tried to bring stability hahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahah…. ffs if the last five years is your idea of attempted stability then you are bonkers..it is he who has turned us into a global footballing joke, no one else. incredible.
craig chisholm(Quote)
Phil K @21
Spot on
boljon(Quote)
Same old knee **** reaction from our supporters. As soon as the going gets tough we demand a new manager. It’s pathetic.
Give the man a chance.
If were ever going to build a firm foundation at this club it wont be for changing the manager every couple of seasons.
Dax(Quote)
Sacking him would be a stupid thing to do, we are in the middle of a season and haven’t played a full strength team in god knows how long. When we get a few players “over the line” and I mean good players we should be able to claw our way to mid table. Leave Pardew be, he has a **** hand at the minute and no one could play it and win. Also, WHY AREN’T WE GOING AFTER DANNY GRAHAM?
Lowery(Quote)
we need a 2 centre halfs, another RB and LB as only have santon and debuchy that worth a fuk, we need a left wing and a right wing and another attacking midefielder plus a forward. so i make that 6 top draw signings we need.. something in the region of 50-70 million quid investment needs to be made.
craig chisholm(Quote)
get a few players in and hope he can keep us up and end of season get rid of pardew and for the club to have time to get the right manager in by sacking him now would not change things we need 4 signings at least or we r down
chris(Quote)
I think a good manager, and I don’t mean even someone with loads of PL experience or contacts, a good coach would jump at the chance of coming to our club to prove themselves. Pardew’s words of wisdom, ‘I was looking to John and Steve to help me out in that substitution scenario a little bit, and they are triffic in those situations’….. You don’t know what your doing, you don’t know what your doing, altogether now. 😮
DJG(Quote)
I see Nobby Solano is on twitter, saying he arrives in England in Feb and wants to help out with the coaching if they will allow it.
Top man!
JJ(Quote)
So, is the idea of an 8 year contract to provide stability and get us to a point like Wenger and Fergie have managed? If so, what is the lowest point either of those big boys have hit?
If I’m not mistaken, Fergie stooped very low in the table early in his MU appointment. Not that Pards is Fergie-esque, but if the whole point of the 8 year signing is to get longevity and stability built in. You can’t do that, obviously, by pulling the trigger on the guy when we hit a low ebb like this.
I voted “not sure.” Last week I would have voted “don’t fire him.” But Pards is damaged in my estimation after yesterday’s (and other) decisions.
The summer signing and shrinking squad debacle (not Pards’ fault) the injury crisis (not Pards’ fault) the negative tactics (partly Pardew and partly forced by thin squad) are all converging and making a perfect storm here.
Add to that my suspicion that our coaching staff is not doing fitness and conditioning properly because the team always looks exhausted to my eyes.
Fans Should Own The Club(Quote)
DAX,, i hardly think five years of this **** is a knee **** reaction.
craig chisholm(Quote)
@lee_ryder: Told Coloccini’s advisors on Tyneside. They know they will have to pay for the player and have a backer. #nufc
3hourswasted(Quote)
Cold cribbed from Wikipedia:
Ferguson was appointed manager at Old Trafford on 6 November 1986.
For the 1989–90 season, Ferguson further boosted his squad by paying large sums of money for midfielders Neil Webb, Mike Phelan and Paul Ince, as well as defender Gary Pallister and winger Danny Wallace. The season began well with a 4–1 win over defending champions Arsenal on the opening day, but United’s league form quickly turned sour. In September, United suffered a humiliating 5–1 away defeat against fierce rivals Manchester City. Following this and an early season run of six defeats and two draws in eight games, a banner declaring “Three years of excuses and it’s still ****…ta-ra Fergie.” was displayed at Old Trafford, and many journalists and supporters called for Ferguson to be sacked.[49][50] Ferguson later described December 1989 as “the darkest period [he had] ever suffered in the game”, as United ended the decade just outside the relegation zone.[51][52]
Fans Should Own The Club(Quote)
JJ@52….”crossing coach”! 😆 😯
Worth a punt. I’d tell him to put his boots on! We’ve never managed to replace old Nobby. Legend.
Rodzilla(Quote)
However, Ferguson later revealed that the board of directors had assured him that they were not considering dismissing him. Although naturally disappointed with the lack of success in the league, they understood the reasons for the sub-standard results (namely the absence of several key players due to injury) and were pleased with the way that Ferguson had reorganised the club’s coaching and scouting system.
Fans Should Own The Club(Quote)
I’d sack him for starting with Shola wide right in a 4-3-3 formation. If Shola was going to start we had to play 4-4-2. As Shola can’t last 90 mins, isn’t quick or hardworking, why play him there? Bad as Obertan is, he should have started wide right of a 3 and Shola could be given 15-20 mins at the end (all he is capable of). Reading’s left back was Ian Harte for Christ’s sake – he was slow when he was young. Even Obertan should have been able to rip Harte a new *******.
Knocky(Quote)
Knee-****???
18 games with 3 wins.
The one massively delayed knee ****
JerseyGeordie(Quote)
What is it with some people. Watched the game on tv so forgive me if I didn’t see everything but even I knew that Cabaye couldn’t last the whole game. Pardew did the right thing bringing him off. In fact most managers would have brought him off even if Cabaye didn’t say something was wrong with his groin/thigh whatever. Yet our “knowledgable” fans boo’ed Pardew. Stupid. Just plain stupid in my opinion.
Pardew was never my choice but he’s here now so I’d stick with him
On the same breath that some fans call Ba/Carrol/Martins/etc an ******* for leaving when times were tough but we do the same don’t we. We boo managers when they have enough problems. We boo players when they’re still finding their feet (Like Perch). I say we deserve to go down with fans like these.
I apologize for the rant and maybe it’s not fair but then again neither are some of us.
Joe(Quote)
same all over again just shut up and back him up hes our manager the reason we never win anything is because we keep sacking managers for everything that goes wrong we need stability, not a sacking.
carl oxley(Quote)
same old story, certain players with no passion for wearing the black n white shirt, no fight/passion,with one eye on their bank balance. a manager who seems to have lost his way and/or the dressing room. we never have any consistency from season to season, up/down. not the sign of a good club more mediocre im afraid. 🙁
kev george(Quote)
All the pardew supporters saying he’s failing because of lack of investment answer me this?
Did reading have better players yest?
JerseyGeordie(Quote)
@62.. thats going to be a very quiet blog is we all just shut up isnt it?
JJ… ah yes mate.. nobby solano… where are the heros now? where is the guts and pride? We have no heros anymore, none. We have had so many great heros but none under fat man and we never will. Shearer, sir les, nobby, ginola, robert, tino, dyer, rob lee, given, the list is endless. we could do with a few heroes now, thats for sure.
craig chisholm(Quote)
alan pardrew was good last season! sir bobby robson was a great manager and i thought pardrew was going to bring top 6 football to nufc for years to come.. the europa league is not to blame the lack of signings and players leaving is. check book out ashley or face relegation, you idiot, i blame you! the lack of confidence is what scares me. sack him after we get the signings in.
terry(Quote)
Jersey I don’t know anyone on here that says he failing solely due to lack of investment ❓
But lots have said that it is a big factor for our performances and position this season
Big Dave(Quote)
@64… the main difference is we are in a major decline and have a terminal illness that no fast fix to it and we have no way of stopping our exit to the CCC…… reading are just what they are.. reading.
craig chisholm(Quote)
@big dave, were are all the apologys from the fools that told us Ashley is a genious and his masterplan can’t fail ?
As for sacking Pardew I agree with many comments above he is not the problem NUFC is a business under this regime and the team come last a players age and sell on value are more imprtant than what we need or when we need it.
I wonder what david moyes would do if he said he needed a centre half badly and the board bought a midfielder ?
If Pardew goes we would find ourselves with another one of dekkas mates who knows his place and does as he’s told.
Ashley = huge turnover of players for profit no love for the club stadium fans team, lies and zero stability.
No Ashley = well no one knows but I’d bite your hand of for it know as I would have 3 years ago.
keith(Quote)
Will the same people who criticised the turnover of managers, several years ago at Newcastle ask for that to be the case now.
He has had a good season and a bad one (with reasonable excuses for injuries etc).
The board should have backed him during the summer, thats not his fault.
I would’nt have chosen him as a manager, but you can’t argue with last season’s accolade of manager of the season. Lets just support the team and see what happens.
Our team has consisted of B team players for the most of this season. A new manager will not change that. Hopefully a few signings will freshen things up.
garry watson(Quote)
Dave- that’s what I keep hearing. It’s not pardew it’s lack investment.
He said that the 1st half performance was the best we could have managed with the players we had. As if he had the lesser side.
A proper manager with the quality in hand yesterday finds a way to win against a lesser side that hadn’t won on the road all season.
If we can’t win at home against one of the worse sides, where will we find the points to stay up in the remaining fixtures. And this has been a theme that’s becoming more prevalent after the last 18 games.
JerseyGeordie(Quote)
KEITH @ 69 > @big dave, were are all the apologys from the fools that told us Ashley is a genious and his masterplan can’t fail ?
😆 😆 😆 😆 I don’t know where they are they went AWOL months ago so they haven’t been about to issue any apologise mate. you know what they’re like if we had an unbeaten run of 10 games or something we would maybe see some of them back again 😀
Big Dave(Quote)
Keith.. right now i would take a massive step backwards to get shot of cashley… if it means he will fuk off and we get some one in who actually wants to see the club do well for all the right reasons, not just the greenback ones. only one thing will get rid of this parasite from our on-its-knees club and that is exit from the premiership and for it to become a huge financial drain on him year after year. we need him to drop us like a hot potato and never hear from the man again.
craig chisholm(Quote)
If it’s true that Shola can’t train all week how on earth does Pards think he’ll last a full 90+ mins 😕 ,If that’s not proof that he has his favs who he won’t drop or sub then I don’t know what is .It’s the same with Jonas ,Pards said recently in an interview that he’s not been at his best but I’m hopeing he’ll come good for all the faith I’m putting in him 😕 .Ablind man can see Jonas is struggling this season so why persist 😕 . Look I’m one of Jonas biggest fans and when we played Reading away he was our hardest worker that day and the lad doesn’t get anywhere near enough credit but fair do’s he’s well out of shape and form at the moment. Yesterday was enough for me ,those subs ,Cabaye accepted were scary . To think it’s o.k to sit back and defend a 1.0 lead against a **** Reading side ,and they are **** is stupid beyond belief with our frail Defence .The minute he made those changes I knew and said we’d lose .It’s not the first time he’s made odd subs either ,his decision making is very suspect not just tactically but what he chooses to say in post and pre-match interviews. After last season he comes out and says we are in a different league to Everton 😯 😳 Talk about giving a head start to your opposition ,there was moyes team talk right there this season. 🙄 Don’t forget according to Pards we would be aiming for top 4 this season ,and that was said after the window shut knowing how thin the squad was and how we would be decimated should the inevitable injuries strike. He needs to be putting his brain in gear before opening his trap for once. Look at the way the fans got the blame yesterday after the booing , are we seriously to be expected to believe the players didn’t know they were booing the sub decisions not the team 😕 I would of thought the don’t know what your doing might have been a clue there. 🙄 . I hate seeing managers sacked and to be fair ,we’ve had injuries ,no investment or luck but youat least expect a level of competence from the coach ,sadly that would appear lacking given the recent showings and maybe he needs to go before it’s too late.
KIMTOON(Quote)
Jersey I have to disagree mate I haven’t seen anyone that say’s Pards has no blame that its all down to lack of investment.
I have said before I have been one of the loudest on here to back Pards and to critisize the Regime for lack of investment, but I can still see that Pards has made many mistake and has to put his hands up and take some blame, but I do honestly believe that the Regime have screwed him over big time then add to that the fuk up he made when he backed Ba which caused a lot of unrest and division in the dressing room, then add injuries etc . ❓
Big Dave(Quote)