You can bet your life there are a few football club owners with very twitchy sphincter muscles at the moment. Such are the riches on offer with the new TV deal no one wants to miss out; staying in the premier league means getting your hands on the golden goose of football. The new deal, some £5.1 bn, is truely eyewatering even after you allow for 5 percent going to grassroots football and community projects and charities, it still leaves £4.9bn going to Premier league clubs. I personally feel the 5 percent to grass roots is not enough, the whole package needs to be shared out much more fairly throughout the leagues. We have gotten to the stage now where this deal makes the champions league money look like small fry and as for the Europa league, forget it. At the end of the day few clubs below the top 6 in the premier league will have much appetite for a run in Europe if it risks their Premier league status and the money on offer. No, they’ll be content with a good cup run to keep the natives happy and the ultimate aim of safety. This is a scenerio we as Newcastle fans are all too familiar with, with the exception of the good cup run. It’s starting to feel like the perfect storm has arrived with different elements all coming together to finally kill off the game as we know it. If it wasn’t before then it certainly is more business than football now, as we have seen with our own clubs owner. I predict more and more that Ashley’s entering the world of football because, for the first time, there is real money to be made if you do it right. My big concern though is that he won’t utilise the new TV money to fund a couple of quality signings, instead keeping to our ‘wipe our own nose’ philosophy that he has in place. All very admirable but what happens when the so called lesser clubs start throwing their new financial weight around buying up quality players and leap frogging us in the league in the process? I feel he really needs to loosen the purse strings before we start to drift away, and a good start would be using some of our windfall to land a quality coach. A good coach, two or three quality signings and some of our up and coming youngsters should see us look much healthier next season. I really don’t see the point in clipping the wings of the golden goose, do you?
By KIMTOON
There is a certain tide turning. Earlier in the season and the summer many on here were trying to defend the club’s transfer policy by trying to valiantly defend the players we had bought or the players we already had. Some knew we still didn’t have a good enough squad and now people are realising it.
Stuart79(Quote)
Stu – no turning of a tide for me mate. I’ve always said that the transfer policy is flawed, but I still say the players we bought in the summer were good buys. I was told the squad we had was relegation fodder – that’s not the case, and won’t be imo.
I was told that we didn’t have Remys goals, yet Cisse has been covering those – Remy notched 14 and I believe Cisse is currently on 10, so is on track to cover or better those.
Sharpy17(Quote)
Eric I strongly disagree. Lee will hire the best man available to take the club forward. Lee and Ashley aren’t rushing like they have done in the past but would it be such a bad thing if Carver got an 8 year contract ?
Gordon NUFC(Quote)
stuart79, i don’t recall many on here who were defending the toons transfer policy mate. are you really sure of that, and “many” defending it ?
Munich Mag(Quote)
gordon@153, if john carver keeps us in the top16 he will be duly rewarded by lee charnley, and rightly so. they’ll also build a statue of him at the big lamp to show there apprciation.
Munich Mag(Quote)
Troy – yip, Gordie is defo a **** taker 😆
Sharpy17(Quote)
I can’t help it Sharpy17 mate that’s the only fun I get being a NUFC fan.
Gordon NUFC(Quote)
Sharpy @ 152 how can you say Cisse is covering Remy’s goals , Cisse is covering his own as he was allready here.
So as far as I see no one is covering his goals because no one has came in to cover them
Big Dave(Quote)
I stand by my statement Kinnear was a better D.O.F than Wise. Ashley is slowly learning.
Gordon NUFC(Quote)
Dave – Cisse only scored 4 goals (in all competitions) last season – Remy scored 14 in all competitions, so far this season Cisse has 10, so far with Perez on 5 – so they are covering the goals from last season.
Sharpy17(Quote)
Gordie – you’re a worky ticket and I don’t believe a word you say anymore 👿 😆
Sharpy17(Quote)
Stuart: sorry about the name mistake.
I am not really getting Gordon though. If it is meant to be satire, funny or ironic you would think what he is writing would be satirical, funny or ironic? If he is serious he is wrong and if he is trying to be funny it is about on an 11 year old boy’s level.
I know that people go on a wind up on blogs, but I don’t see the point of this wind up if it is one. At the moment I am quite content to wind myself up about NUFC. Carver out.
Eric Sykes(Quote)
So really Perez is the one that is having to cover Remys . As I dont think you can say that Cisse is covering Remy’s when he is covering for himself.
Yeah I know he went through a drought last season but this season he is making up for last 😉
Big Dave(Quote)
And Gordon, if it is meant to be “banter” (copyright The Troysta) it is about as funny as Rio Ferdinand at a funeral.
Eric Sykes(Quote)
Dave – you understand my point, you’re just working your ticket now as well!! 👿
Sharpy17(Quote)
Sorry if I upset anyone.
Gordon NUFC(Quote)
I’m not funny granted.
Gordon NUFC(Quote)
Gordon – like I said to Troy last night, I work with a kid who has the views you were joking about, which is why I wasn’t so dismissive straight away – but you not engaging me and then the Carver for 8yrs craic sealed it for me.
You haven’t upset anymore mate, a bit banter never hurts anyone man 😉
Sharpy17(Quote)
Sharpy yeah I know where your coming from .
But I just dont think that we should be saying that Cisse is covering Remy’s goals, IMO It should be the job or Remy’s replacement to cover his goals.
Other wise it sounds like the old chestnut that managers come of with when a long term injuried player returns and they say its like a new signing.
Which is what we’ll hear next season when SDJ and Saylor return 😀
Big Dave(Quote)
Gordon NUFC: I wasn’t upset either. If anything it let me go off on a rant about how useless everyone in this NUFC organisation are 🙂
Eric Sykes(Quote)
In case anyone thinks I am just moaning, there are reasons to be cheerful:
1. Charnley is not Llambias and is very unlikely to do a streak after loosing a bet to the fat man. The only saving grace about that was that Fatty wasn’t the one doing the streak.
2. We will not be relegated. There are plenty of teams worse than us and we play a few of them like Leicester and Villa. At 32 points we are probably only 5 from safety and even Parver can’t **** that up.
3. Mike Williamson’s contract is one year closer to expiration.
4. We have some decent players and with a few additions that should have been made already we are an upper mid-table side – our ultimate ambition, God bless us.
5. They can reassess the situation in the summer and Charnley could shock me and appoint a decent manager and come up with some transfer funds. Hope springs eternal.
Carver out (because he is ***** and ugly).
Eric Sykes(Quote)
Eric would you accept an average manager if he was good looking 😀
Big Dave(Quote)
That’s the spirit Eric 🙂
Gordon NUFC(Quote)
I just remember having many ‘debates’ on here with quite a few. They were telling me we had enough cover defensively as young kids should be given a chance (Sharpy), De Jong would replace Cabaye, and my favorite was watching Sharpy try and argue that Riviere was any good.
But I like it how Sharpy is now saying we have replaced Remy’s goals with Cisse AND Perez. Sharpy said at the start of the season we didn’t really need another striker as we have players who will replace Remy’s goals… Wasn’t quite the point I was making back then. We haven’t replaced his goals or Cabaye’s. We have scored less than last season – like I knew and said we would.
But lets be honest, if we did replace the goals from last season byt spreading around the team, where is the progress? We would be treading water at best, but as we have scored less and conceded more, we have regressed since last season – again, just like I said we would!
Stuart79(Quote)
Sharpy17 Cabaye isn’t east to replace considering our budget but in time Carbella might turn out to be a suitable replacement.
Gordon NUFC(Quote)
Big D: you know I am only continuing to say he is ugly to be a jerkoff to The Troysta. And because he is 🙂
Having Pep Guardiola wouldn’t be bad. Handsome and good is better than ugly and **** 🙂
Eric Sykes(Quote)
Oh Stuart, that will be you miss quoting me again bonnylad 🙄
What was being said is that our squad was weaker this season than it was last season – that is what I disagreed with. I have ALWAYS said that we needed a CF and CBS.
It was said that the new signings would not cover the goals lost in Remy, Cabaye & Benny – I said that I believed our attacking options would cover those goals lost, but that I felt hadn’t improved on the goals tally. I don’t say that Riviere was Remys replacement – I said I believed he’d chip in with his fair share of goals and so far I’ve been wrong about that.
But goals for last season ended on 43 – we are currently on 31 for this season – so I’ll be there abouts with my prediction by the end of the season I’d reckon.
And you accuse people of misquoting you?! 🙄
Sharpy17(Quote)
Big D: you also have to admit I am right about Carver. When I told me mam that he was only 50 she went into spontaneous convulsions with the telly changer and didn’t know what she was watching anymore – Emerdale or Corra. She spilt her tea and almost knocked over the bottle of gin next to it.
Eric Sykes(Quote)
Gordon – I think the club knew it was going to be difficult to replace Cabaye so instead bought players to change the system. I think had we been able to start the season with everyone fit, Pardew would have probably went 4-2-3-1. But SDJ injury cocked that up and he ended up going with a more 4-3-3 formation which actually worked out pretty well in the end.
Sharpy17(Quote)
Sharpy @179: do you consider 10-12th place as working out? I am not giving you a hard time man, just pointing out how low our expectations have become. 7% actually think Parver would be a good manager. Who are these 7% and are they all related to Troy?
Eric Sykes(Quote)
Eric TBH I have never really thought of Carver in that way 😯 I don’t really worry about what the manager looks like 😆 😉
Big Dave(Quote)
Big D: you know I am just farting around? I would have brought up the name Gordon Lee if I was discussing ugly NUFC managers. Carver is only a nine on a scale of 1-10 when you throw Gordon into the mix.
Eric Sykes(Quote)
Eric – I never suggested it was ‘working out’. But folk were saying we had went backwards, which I don’t believe we had – but I also believe we failed to improve by not getting a CF and CB that we needed. I’m not happy about it, I just wasn’t having that we went backwards or would get relegated.
Some people have no perspective on situations – it’s either Europe or relegation with some.
Sharpy17(Quote)
Sharpy – like you have admitted, you argued the squad is better this season than last. The current league positikn does not back you up, our goal difference doesn’t back you up and even you can’t be so pig headed to still thing you were right given the facts I have given you.
Stuart79(Quote)
I’m also pretty sure you were very relaxed about Santon being sent to Inter. More folly in hindsight for you but foresight for me as usual.
Stuart79(Quote)
Eric @ 182 😆 😆 😆
Big Dave(Quote)
Stuart: the squad is about the same but with less experience in my opinion. We have had 3 players leave because Pards fell out with them who could have been useful under a different manager (and not Bruce). Having Sissoko in the middle has helped as bit as well getting in Colback. Sammy, Haidara and Perez have surpassed expectations.
Now, to have Alnwick as the backup keeper is a crime.
Having Williamson as first choice centre half is a joke.
We can see this, why cant management unless they are yes men and pencil pushers just happy to have a well paid job that they are really not qualified to do? And that included Pardew when he was here. A journeyman who couldn’t even recognize the quality he had in Tevez and Mascerano and played Hayden Mullins instead.
Eric Sykes(Quote)
Stu – misquoting is like Tourette’s to you isn’t it?!
I didn’t say the squad was stronger, I said it was on par with where we were last season. As for league positions and goal difference – we shall see at the end of the season. I don’t imagine we will be too far off 43 goals that we got last season, but I think it’s looking likely we will finish below 10th spot.
Sharpy17(Quote)
Stu – I was fine with sending our 3rd choice right footed LB to Milan mate. I was miffed off that we didn’t bring any defensive cover in though 😉
Sharpy17(Quote)
Well done Sharpy for identifying Gordon was a troll,2 days late of course. 😉
Still, I don’t think Psychs has sussed on yet 😛
Boy, that lad is slow 😆
Troy Stavers(Quote)
Those who wanted rid of Pards, would you be bug enough to say now, that they would rather have Carver as full time instead of Pards?
Troy Stavers(Quote)
Sharpy: are you still OK with sending Santon to Inter given that he was used as cover in the centre as well? Now we have Hadiara as left back and who else for cover? Ryan Taylor??? If Steven Taylor is made of glass then Ryan is fine crystal balancing on the edge of a rocking chair.
Eric Sykes(Quote)
Troysta @190: I wanted a bit of a rant anyway and thought it was you or Troy Jr posting in disguise. Seriously, I thought it was you having a lark about.
Eric Sykes(Quote)
Troysta @191: Carver was never the only other choice to Pardew. You are making a very simplistic argument.
Eric Sykes(Quote)
Tory Boy – those of us who wanted rid of Percy Parsnip, never wanted him replaced with Parver, in the first place.
Keep going fella
Beardsleys Boots(Quote)
Troy – 🙄 got there in the end mate, I’m too bloody trusting of people man 😉
Eric – I’m more disappointed that Dummett & Good have picked up injuries than i am about letting Santon go to be honest. I didn’t particularly rate him all that highly to be honest. I suppose of the 2, I’d rather still have MYM to choose from as he could cover right across the back line.
Sharpy17(Quote)
Sharpy@196: the point is that we didn’t have to let any of them go without replacements.
Eric Sykes(Quote)
They are loans who we could still have at NUFC. It is not like we had better choices for the squad because 5 of the youngsters/2nd tier players were just sent to Rangers FFS.
Eric Sykes(Quote)
Thanks for not answering a simple question boys. 🙄
I’m just asking who you would rather have managing us. Pardew or Carver. ? Don’t say neither as that’s everybody’s response.
Troy Stavers(Quote)
Troysta: you re phraing the choice as only between two alternatives when there are many others. Why would anybody play by the stupid rules you are setting up?
Cue the trolling saying nobody answered his question 🙂
Eric Sykes(Quote)
are phrasing.
Eric Sykes(Quote)
Troy – the problem is that ones a manager and the other is a head coach 😉
Sharpy17(Quote)
Sharpy@202; no it is not. The problem is that Troysta is phrasing his question as an either/or when it is not an either/or question. He will then come back and monotonously ask again and again why his (non) question wasn’t answered.
Eric Sykes(Quote)
I see we’ve made a very poor wage offer to Sammy and he’s now looking at Real Sociedad. Wise move Sammy. Mike is a pinhead, cheapskate. Ask Aarons.
GeordieTwo(Quote)
Let’s see now that’s a **** wage offer to Sammy and a **** wage offer to Aarons. Who else can we make a **** wage offer to and make sure they leave?
GeordieTwo(Quote)
So now Parma have gone bust cannot even afford to play this weekend game,have they got any decent players we can nick
icedog(Quote)
Psychs
It’s a reasonable question.
I’m interested in who out of the two you would rather have.
Stop being so defensive. Just answer. Carver or Pardew?
Troy Stavers(Quote)
What about a Carvew Troy mate. Someone with the brilliant tactics of Percy and the Geordie accent of JC. Beautiful.
GeordieTwo(Quote)
I also feel Mike should make **** wage offers to Haidara and Perez when their contracts are almost up. These lads are much too young and promising to pay properly.
GeordieTwo(Quote)
G2
It’s interesting to watch those with big opinions too frightened to commit on this one. 😉
Troy Stavers(Quote)
What do you lot think about our balance between fiscal responsibility and football ambition? Aren’t we handling it brilliantly? Every few seasons a cup final and even a cup or two to keep the supporters happy, plus we stay in the black and aren’t in financial trouble. Oh….. wait a minute.
GeordieTwo(Quote)
Well, since there has been no football on here except those minor teams Real Madrid and Bayern Munich I have amused myself watching youtube comedy clips. I have decided that Peter Sellers is the best because of his brilliant physical comedy and amazing timing. Followed closely by Rowan Atkinson, who has the same comedic instincts but is a bit too ugly to rank number one. Carver take notice, you have the money for a plastic surgeon.
So, that brings me back to The Troysta who thinks he is funny but really isn’t. That leaves him at 6 billion billionth on my list. Considering the world population is currently 7,296,326,000 (7 and a bit billion for Troy and Troy Jr) then he better start writing some different stuff instead of just asking for replies to his inane questions in order to rise up on my list.
Eric Sykes(Quote)
I would have trouble answering that one as well Troy mate. Carver or Percy? Hmmm. Percy might get 10th on average over several seasons and JC might get 13th on average over several seasons. Will Mike care about the difference? I doubt it.
GeordieTwo(Quote)
Troysta: have a look at my post at 200 to see that I predicted your answer.
Eric Sykes(Quote)
are there other options other than Cardew? last I heard he was odds on for the job.
Too close to call who I’d want between Pards and Carvs, I need to see what Carver does in the last games but….. its not looking promising 😯
Gashley(Quote)
Gashley @215 you’re being far too critical mate. A good 14th place finish is what Mike is looking for from JC. Just imagine, 6 teams worse than us! No fear of relegation! No spending required (other than a few **** wage offers to promising young players that is)! It’s Mike’s idea of heaven.
GeordieTwo(Quote)
The only real question remaining is how much crappier can Mike make the club and yet still remain safely out of the relegation zone? Stay tuned for a couple of seasons to learn the exciting answer.
GeordieTwo(Quote)
Come in, Sharpy. Santon left on deadline day didn’t he, or **** close to it, did you really think we would bring in cover once he had left? There was no chance we were going to do that so it was a ridiculous move letting him go as I said at the time.
Stuart79(Quote)
They are one and the same, so what is to choose.
But this has already been done to death.
Its like asking if you would prefer to amputate your left leg or your right one.
Err neither thanks
Beardsleys Boots(Quote)
The other JC couldn’t get us to 10th with our defence only a step or cruciate away from disaster. Krul gets injured, how about a plank of wood as goalkeeper for 10 games (Elliot)? No, then how about Alnwick again who is equivalent to a piece of plywood (and will be let go in the summer when his contract is up).
We will still not be relegated.
Eric Sykes(Quote)
Relegation is for suckers and Mike is no sucker. He’s a scumbag tightwad but he will continue to do just enough positive things to keep us afloat in the Prem, somewhere between 10th and 15th.
GeordieTwo(Quote)
anyone bold enough to predict a score for tomorrow yet ?
Beardsleys Boots(Quote)
Some of the back tracking and wriggling on here is hysterical!
Only a few have been consistent in their arguments, whether right or wrong but unfortunately we’ve been usually right as we have a predictable ***** as an owner.
Club hasn’t improved on the field since we finished fifth and actually it’s a hell of an achievement going from fifth to relegation fodder to mid table obscurity.
Some said it wouldn’t and I wish it was wrong but there you go…
Stuart79(Quote)
BB – 3-0
Stuart79(Quote)
Wow! Such an easy question but you make it look so difficult to answer. 🙄
There’s not a trick or hidden agenda. Just commit to one or the other. I would have stuck with Pardew if the choice was Carver.
Just say, Carver or Pardew from what we know so far.
Troy Stavers(Quote)