Pardew has been let down, like the rest of us.
That isn’t exactly great news is it?
I’ve been keeping my council throughout the window, acutely aware that the club are very capable of throwing the odd curveball when it comes to transfers dealings, which is why I’ve been pretty much silent on the whole transfer window malarkey as I like to form a judgement of the whole window AFTER the event as opposed to flitting between opinions throughout the window and as each day passes.
I’ve known since day one that qualification for the Europa League wouldn’t have a significant effect on our transfer dealings. Put simply, the money doesn’t really justify splashing out sums that deviate from the transfer policy that, until recently, has been lauded by fans of NUFC, fans of other clubs, journalists and ex-professionals alike.
However I have to say that should Alan Pardew’s words of doom turn out to be true (remember the APP – or Anti Pardew Police – are quick to point out the he is a liar) then I’ll be fuming.
First off, let’s hear what Pardew has exactly said:
“We’re watching the market,” Pardew told assorted journalists in his pre-match press conference ahead of the game against Atromitos tomorrow evening.
He added: “We know the one’s we’re watching. If there’s any movement on them, we may trigger ourselves. But the targets we have seem secure at their clubs.”
Now I’ll be quick to point out that Pardew has said things once or twice that haven’t come about previously.I remember when we weren’t selling Andy Carroll, then BOOM. Much like I remember no new incoming striker last January, until Papiss Cisse rolled into town a few days later.
It’s not over until it’s over if course, but if that is to be it then I feel sorry for Pardew, his coaching staff, and the players. All of them combined last season to propel us to fifth place in the table through a combination of hard work, graft, skill and togetherness.
The reward they’ve been given from the owner and his band of blubbers is shocking. After all that there has been no support whatsoever from above which makes you winder what the point is.
Now I, like the vast majority, am not expecting cash to be splashed here, there and everywhere, but I think we’ve gone to far the other way in this transfer window. If you crunch the numbers you’ll find our net spend is somewhere in the region of £3m, which is better than it has been for a while, but it’s still painfully low.
Still, as mentioned previously, there is time for additions to be made although it must be said that Pardew’s words are resonating about as soundly as a wet fart currently…
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So what he seems to be saying is the ones we want aren’t for sale. If they do become available then we will buy they.
I expected more from the transfer window to be honest due to the fact we have more games than last year. I think keeping our players is essential to another successful season and the 4 guys we have brought into the club are no duck eggs so we have a good start. I think we were just hoping for a “Big Signing” of some sort which I believe Anita fits into that category very well. I said this a few weeks back I’d be happy if Anita or Van Der Wiel joins and no more news for us and again I say it I am happy with our signings, I couldn’t dis-agree with anyone about needing more because our defence is looking to thin to depend on Steven Taylor’s injury status so I wouldn’t mind seeing a defender who can fit into the first team join. That being said if we stay as we are I will remain happy, the day we do sell Tiote, Cabaye or Coloccini who are linked with clubs right now before Saturday (I say saturday because it ends friday) this is when you will see my opinions change.
Dont forget Pardews truthful statement more recently
Ben Arfa has a knee injury and no chance of lining up against Spurs lol
Cloaked, coiled, eager manager merely waiting to pounce . . Targets well known, let the game of masters chess continue !
By late Friday , frantic medicals, helicopters on the pad and the usual hot cup of tea for sky sports presenter standing by the gate!
Who will break first. . . . Go on last offer of £3 million for Rooney ! We won’t be held to ransom !
The transfer window is a terrible time for any fan and as it ticks closer and closer to closing the rumors and tension get worse.
I’ve seen Pard’s comments and i think that people might be getting a little carried away. At no point he’s said that is our business done and dusted. We are still active and like all windows it does on the reaction of others that determine the moves.
I personally don’t see the AC door being closed. Pard’s has said many times that it is not in his hands and that it is being handled at board level. Things move very quickly in football and i think Friday could see a domino effect.
Big telling point on Friday will be the location of David Craig, the northeast reporter from Sky Sports. If he’s outside SJP then there is obviously news to breakdown. If he’s down the road at Scum then it’s an early night!!
SPYRO talking benny i see hes left out of french team,got to a plus for toon
@Ice
Yeah i had noticed that but think Deschamps has named him on stand by list
I think the biggest boost for us where Benny was concerned was Dechamps getting job in 1st place lol
Shame if we don’t sign anybody else. Debuchy would have been a good signing for us. Carroll would be a good alternative to Cisse and Ba. Douglas would push Taylor for a starting berth. I have no issues with the midfield as it is.
My concerns; Senegal beat Ivory Coast to go to ACON. We only have Shola and Xisco. At any point in the season them two could be injured. We only have Shola and Xisco. Of course we have some youth like Campbell, Sammy and Vuckic, but these cannot be considered serious, 10 game replacements for Cisse and Ba.
Tayor and Coloccini, our first choice pairing for centre half. It picks itself. There is the problem. Taylor is injury prone. I prefer Perch in midfield and Williamson…I’ve seen faster cases of constipation.
Finally, Simpson is out of contract in less than a year. We could head into January with a player who’s negoiated a new deal elsewhere, heads turned, performances drop. Cost us dear. Or we sell him in January for £1m, and are forced to sign a full back for a higher price than possible now.
I dont want major £50m invest, just 2-3, at least one for christ’s sake, quality players in to bolster us.
I don’t think Pards knows too much more than the fans when it comes to the prospects of transfers happening so I wouldn’t worry about what he says.
The plus side of failing to buy is that our reserves might get a chance to break through and get some valuable experience. I would love to see a good crop of youngsters establish themselves as reliable back ups at the very least. At the moment, if anyone gets injured in any position, Taylor, Willo or Perch step in, and the rest of the pack gets shuffled. I’ve said for years we should have a ready made replacement for each position instead of trying to fit square pegs in round holes. Nothing better than youthful exuberance and raw talent to keep seniors on their toes; look at LFC’s Sterling who was busting for a chance.
Lets hope some targets become available.
It’s been a very disappointing window so far.
Hardly a big step forward.
The fat bastid gambled that we would once again cash in by selling one of our star players. Most likely was Tiote. But up til now that hasn’t happened, and if that should remain the case come friday, then we wont be seeing any new faces, until January.
Its been stated by the fat twat, that the club has to be self financing. Clearly finishing 5th last season has left us broke.
Hay ho. On we go.
Enjoy europe this season while it lasts, as I cant see us venturing up at the same lofty heights in the PL again this season. Not once our usual injury curse strikes.
Meh.
As long as we dont sell, i would be happy. We always have the Jan window of needed for a needed cover.
Why did we not increase the bid for Debuchy 6 weeks ago….. 8m Euros for one of Europes top right backs is NOT a lot of money – and this is the position that Newcastle need to improve in as Danny Simpson is extremely limited going forward and poses little threat to the opposition down the right flank. Whilst i am supportive of the clubs transfer policy – haggling over a mere million Euros is pathetic. Getting Debuchy in now would allow the club to get 2-3 million for Simpson before his contract expires.
Like everyone else, i’d like to see a new centre back to replace Williamson and believe a more determined approach on Douglas would have seen the player labelled the best defender in Holland arrive at Newcastle. Again the mooted 4-5 million Euros isnt mega bucks.
Finally another striker is also required, however, I do not want the club to spend all the transfer kitty and wage bill on Andy Carroll. Let Graeme Carr work his magic and try and sign a couple of young hungry and pacy forwards.
Very disappointing if the club brings nobody through the door now!
I still maintain that I am confident of a signing before the window closes. Don’t know why but I feel that Pardew reiterating(is that right
?) that we might not sign anyone, is just a sneaky ploy so that the media arent all over a potential deal which might ruin it.
On another note
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Danishtoon, I saw you commenting on my attempt at a danish ‘howay the lads’. Were the question marks out of suprise of my lingustic prowess(
Finally a little bit of honesty and light on the whole transfer situation.
So Sports Direct as a company have turned a good profit, fat Cashley has climbed into bed with Rangers – oh and I nearly forgot – he’s spend a net £3m on players for NUFC.
conclusion – he still has plenty of personal ambition but zero when it comes to NUFC.
With the comings and going we are about the same numbers wise. Have we improved the quality of the squad – too early to tell. Weve certainly reduced the age and wage bill of the squad.
Can we improve on what we acheived last season – very unlikely. Can we match what we acheived last year – with the extra Euro games – it will be very difficult.
Yet by spending around £15m and bringing in 2-3 more players, I think top 5-6 would have definately been achievable, along with decent cup runs.
So thanks for all the hard work Graham Carr and thanks for all the false promises Cashley, Lambastard and Pardew – who has done a good job as manager but is still their mouth piece.
The thing that’s the most frustrating to me is that we, as fans, are not asking for much. No one is delusionally screaming about how we should have stumped up £35m for Hazard or something. We just want £15 – 20m spent on two or three players in positions of need. When you see Swansea bidding £5m for a midfielder I’ve never heard of, how is £6-7m too much for Debuchy? Or £5m too much for Douglas? The most infuriating thing to me would be if we did bring Carroll back for £12m+. To haggle over a few million here and there with Debuchy and Douglas and then spend that much on a player who played no where near that level last year would be insane. I realize we got £35m for him, but that doesn’t mean that £12m would be a bargain now. He is what he is, the fact that Liverpool paid over the odds doesn’t make him a better player now.
Why cant Campbell be considered cover for 10 games.
Too young? ….Cant say until you try him
I seem to remember an 18 yr old banging in a hat trick v Arsenal on his debut and never looking back and subsequently costing us £15 million few years later
well dusent look like we will sign any 1 else hope iam wrong ,but defo think we will sell 1 of our stars before it closes
If the players the club have identified aren’t available ( which their clubs are entitled not to sell ) is there any point bringing in players for the sake of it? Quality over quantity
SHARPY@17 just about sums it up mate
@6 Southerngeordie
Personally id prefer to watch David Craig being lowered feet first into a large tank of piranhas live on SSN
Spyro – nothing at all – I certainly think he’s good enough so he’s old enough – which 10 games were you thinking mate?
spyro@23 he does have that effect on people
Johno very point I was making. Though I did think we had backups.
Why are we wasting time scouting players we got no chance of getting either cause we won’t pay the price or they don’t wanna sell. And why even bother putting in a loan to buy bid on Carroll ,I really don’t understand what we been doing this window ,we just seem to have messed about with silly offers that pissed off Lille and mocked Liverpool and so say spent yonks scouting LJD only to see him naff off to Germany!. Then there is the whole Douglas fiasco ,I mean wtf.
Sharpy
Was a response to one of Mark @9 comments
Posted this on an earlier thread, but thought it worth posting again–New and improved with NUMBERS!
Hi everybody,
I finished reading “Soccernomics” yesterday and the authors wrote a batch of recommendations for transfers. It seems like Jabba, et al are sticking to these ideas pretty closely, except maybe the one about players with personal problems.
What do you think? I’m quoting here–aside from the numbers, which I have taken the liberty of adding as an immeasurable improvement:
“As a free service to clubs, here ar the twelve main secrets of the transfer market in full:
1. A new manger wastes money on transfers; don’t let him.
2. Use the wisdom of crowds.
3. Stars of recent World Cups or European Championships are overvalued; ignore them.
4. Certain nationalities are overvalued.
5. Older players are overvalued.
6. Center forwards are overvalued; goalkeepers are undervalued.
7. Gentlemen prefer blonds: identify and abandon “sight-based prejudices.”
8. The best time to buy a player is when he is in his early twenties.
9. Sell any player when another club offers more than he is worth.
10. Replace your best players even before you sell them.
11. Buy players with personal problems, and then help them deal with their problems.
12. Help your players relocate.”
I think #3, 5 & 8 are factors in the Debuchy issue. Not that Debuchy’s too old, but 27 is older than they seem to want to go for.
We’ve certainly seen them use rule #9… with our former #9.
I think somebody in the office (Lambiarse and Jabba?) have read this & Moneyball very closely. (Full disclosure: I haven’t read Moneyball, but a good chunk of Soccernomics seems to be a paraphrase of that book, aimed at soccer or “football” as you weirdos insist on calling it.
What must the likes of Tiote, Colo, Krul, Cabaye and Ba think? Where’s the ambition?
It really is so poor of the club. Which direction are we wanting to go?
Can anyone tell me which clubs have had a worse transfer window than us? Not many, which basically means that the majority of other clubs will be improving so will get closer to us than last season. That means we go down the league as the others go up the league.
Actually it begged belief in fairness.
Poor preparation for this window. Maybe our transfer policy isn’t that super after all and we’ve just been lucky!!!
A very poor effort this summer by Llambias. Why waste people’s time with ridiculous lowball offers? The Debuchy effort was a farce. Maybe Derek wanted to spend some time in France trying some new wines? A net spend of 3M if that’s what it turns out to be for a top five club??? Whining from Pardew about the transfer window being too long? Come off it, Ashley is still rubbing his hands together after the sale of Carroll and he will do the same if he gets 25 or 30M for Tiote. If this is what every summer window is going to be like for the next few seasons we’ll all go mad. Not surprised but extremely disappointed again this summer.
pardew has said the prem is priority the way things are looking no players coming in to strenthen w
Spyro – I think mark is wrong and Campbell could be a serious consideration, however if he were to get injured of suspended during those 10 games – or if he wasn’t having a particularly good game – who replaces him?
That’s my concern mate. We should develop Campbell but we shouldn’t be in a position where we could be so heavily dependant on such a young lad.
Maybe the unfortunate fact that Sagna was injured and Debuchy featured in the Euro pushed his price up out of the range and out of the club would have asked for and over what Jabba & the Slave Girls were willing to bid.
If Sagna wasn’t injured, we might have landed this deal.
our priority is league with out players coming in to strenthen we might as well get knocked out on thursday it would be a blessing as we havent the squad to compete in all comps the youngsters need to be loaned out to get games they are not good enough except 3 maybe 4 mike ashley has done good things at the club got us out of det i for one thank him for that but he doesont wont to take us forword he should sell to some one who would take us to the next level and beyond
Ice – sorry mate, I was on a roll and missed ya post. I think so anyway – but to be honest I was preparing myself for people jumping all over me for adding Pardew to the list, but that’s how I feel about him to be honest. Manchini has got himself in trouble for publicly expressing his disappointment about how they have performed in the window. They have obviously spent abit more than us in recent seasons and won the league last season and he still expects them to kick on and improve. Good manager but another example of him being a puppet
How can Pardew say the league is the priority and then the club does nothing to strengthen at our weakest positions? Campbell is 17, Ranger is a waste of space as is Xisco and what striker have we brought in? We’re one or two injuries away from disaster at CB and we have only Simpson at RB as Raylor is ok there but not his true position. Obertan has turned out to be hopeless (that’s why we got him for 3M which we consider a lot of money apparently). I’m still not convinced by Marveaux and we have no clear idea what formation we will play. What happens during ACoN? Does Llambias actually talk to Pardew about our real weak areas? Shola is 31 and gets injured every other day and Sammy seems to be a lot like Shola except more frail. I’m lumping together all my frustrations in one post here just to get it off my chest. I think the real battle will be for the 6th, 7th and 8th places in the table and I hope we’re in the thick of it but we don’t seemed prepared for that to me.
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I wouldn’t expect Pardew to say we are still interested in Cazza at this late stage in the window.
Liverpool are playing hardball but don’t want to be lumbered with him either. Both are trying to hold out for the best deal.
The Carroll and Torres deal went to the wire.
Is not all mind games at this stage?
I’m not saying that’s the case but it’s a real possibility.
I wouldn’t read too much into Pardews comments tbh.
Anything could happen from now til the window closes. Mind, equally, nowt could happen as well.
Everyone is just second guessing.
I’m going to hammer them tho if they don’t get anyone!
Troy aye the carrol deal did go right to the wire ,thats what worrys me who we gonna sell on the last day ,no time to get a replacement ,fattys a cunt and always will be all my love KKforever
i for one thinks mike ashley has took us as far as he can or as far as he is willing to take us he doesont wont to strenthen the team is it not time for him to put the club up for sale get an owner who will take us the next step further and beyond he has the club on a stable footing as long as he is at the club we will never go forword dont think we will be short of buys wonting to buy a great club
You may be right Troy. Once the mad scramble begins and dominoes start falling in the final hours, a few things may pop up that they’re waiting to pounce on. They just aren’t going to overspend and if they don’t think a player is worth the asking price, they’ll risk things as-is, gamblers tthat they are. They’re playing percentages… high risk, but maybe high reward.
Batty–rule #9 above–Sell any player when another club offers more than he is worth. I just hope they’ve thought through #10 as well:
10. Replace your best players even before you sell them.
i think Troy has warmed to the fat man ,to much time with stardust
can see one a least leaving on the last day and same old saying we didont have time to replace him if that is the case i for one would be peed off is there no one out there that can offer ashley the money to sell up and turn the best club in the world into world beaters
Well, having watched the Pardew mini sound bite on SSN I have to admit it meant bollock all to me.
All managers do this when it comes to transfers I.E. say one thing and do the other. It’s all about throwing clubs/agents/journos off the scent. If I’m at an auction and really want something, I ain’t gona tell the person sat next to me “ooh, Lot 12 is absolutely fantastic, I’m well gona bid for that!”
On the other hand, I am pretty pissed off we’ve done fuck all so far, well apart from spending 3m on a replacement (more or less).
However, transfer windows do tend to go to the wire and we have left cash on the table (apparently) with a few clubs. The only problem with last minute deals though, are the selling club has no time to bring in replacements.
I’m hoping that problem ends up being with a selling club other than NUFC come 11pm on Friday. My patience is wearing thin, but I’ll be monitoring this one right down to the wire. It’d be nice to hold onto what we’ve got, squad-wise, but I can’t help feeling we’ll let a big name go right at the death.
I think the reason why so many people are disappointed, is the fact that we’re now in Europe (almost), and have a real chance to improve and move forward with better players to make up the numbers. Yet we’re pretty much standing still in the grand scheme of things.
To summarise, I’ll be amazed, and a bit pissed off at the sheer pig-headedness of Fatty and his merry men, for quibbling over 1 or 2m for our alleged targets if we bring nobody in. I’ll be effing furious though if we end up thinner than we already are and sell a big name at the last minute without enough time to buy a replacement.
Will we be patting Ashley on the back if he gets 25M for Tiote as many did when he sold Carroll for 35M (after the first shock wore off of course). I would say not. Tiote is the core of the midfield defense and could be a rock for us for years to come. I would feel a lot more confident about the attack if Ba and Cisse had played better together last season and the beginning of this one. Still feel like the back four is almost completely ignored. Does Pardew tell Ashley and Llambias that anyone can be taught to play CB? That’s the feeling I get. No big club would be resting easy with Willo and Perch as the backups for the starting 2. Yet we seem to think that is fine. Get rid of Llambias Ashley and show some backbone man!
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@Batty
Never! I still don’t trust either Stardust or Ashley!
I just feel that everyone is second guessing at the moment and anything can happen over the next couple of days.
I don’t expect Pards to be saying we are still in for Carroll. They want Liverpool to think, shite, we are stuck with Carroll here, we are gonna have to lower the price.
If the window closes and we have only signed Anita then the regime will be criticised and rightly so.
Let’s wait til Saturday morning to fire the bazookas!
Just over 48hs to go. If anything to happen it will be in the dying mins!
G2, I would be absolutely gutted if Tiote went. Unfortunately out of all our squad he’s probably our most attractive asset, and a player most teams could do with. And as luck would have it, he’s not cup-tied.
…at least Arsene Wenger publicly said Arsenal weren’t interested.
Phew!
Javier Martinez to FC Bayern today 40 million euros …. that’s the way to do it…
…as the crocodile steals the sausages.
Barring Chelsea who have spent big and seemingly bought well who has massively strengthened
City didnt need to sign anyone although i saw they signed another earlier
Man U – overpaid for RVP which now has turned into like for like with Rooney injury for couple months, Powell(one for future)Kagawa so until Rooney fit added 1 additional player
Arsenal – Podolski-Giroud and Cazorla..but losing RVP and Song in process so in effect 1 new signing.
Spurs..Adebayor, Sigurdsson and Vertonghan..Adebayor there last year ,Modric gone. so again adding 1 player oh while typing Dembele so 2 but still ???? over whether VDV staying
Liverpool simply trying to replace the shit Dalglish left them with.
Everton – Merallies and Pienaar to replace Cahill and Rodwell
As for some of others who have signed a fair few there was already a gap in quality in terms of the quality our squad possessed already
Like someone said earlier quality not quantity
I see a lot of like for like replacements signed but i dont see anyone being lot stronger than last year.
We replace 4 squad players who would hardly have played with 1 imo good signing(Anita) and 3 potentially good young players.
So while we may not have signed as many players as some would have hoped (sorry not signed many with a £ XX million price tag) the squad is still stronger than last year
Maybe we get a surprise before Friday night and get an extra body in if not i still have faith in the squad as it stands to take us forward this year
Spot on Rodz @49. Yes I feel the same. Our most prized asset to other clubs. Many clubs will be looking closely at Ba and Cisse this season but mostly Cisse. Was he a 1 hit wonder now that clubs know how dangerous he is in the box? I don’t think so but Ba will have to score to take the defense away from Cisse this season. Surely our best bet is to sit Ben Arfa in behind the 2 of them. Very difficult to handle all 3 once they are all on form. Please don’t do anything rash Ashley. We don’t have the players to replace Tiote (too soon to tell about Anita although he looks decent to me already).
I’d agree the squad is stronger than last year, but mainly because we’ve had players coming back from injury (Marveaux, Saylor, Vuckic), Ben Arfa is back to full fitness and young players are stepping up (Tavernier, Abeid, Ferguson, Campbell). So that’s 7 players we’re better off for this time around. Just unfortunate that I feel Fatty sees this as an excuse not to buy.
…as I said though, 50odd hours to go yet……….
I suppose it’s easy to say that in hinsight, and fits into the Anti Ashley bashing plan of things, but it’s maybe obvious now why Debuchy didn’t sign for the toon, if Real are sniffing around..
I’d be gutted if Tiote or Timmy left, Cabaye for 20 mill I’d take that, as long as the money was reinvested, but it probably wouldn’t be…
What is the payout again for premier league places, 3 million pounds per place or something ? Surely it makes sense to gamble on a few new signings at least to be sure of consolidating our position from last year ?
Yeah G2, I’d hate to think Anita was brought in to replace Tiote. I’d like to think he’s been brought in to work as part of a double pivot with him. They’re pretty different in play from what I’ve seen of Anita. It’s been mentioned before on here that Anita is more of a harrier, just as well with him only being 4ft 6. I think they’ll work brilliantly together anyway if we can hold onto Mr T.
reet, gotta go……..
pardew said on the last window that no 1 would be sold at the end of the window because we wouldnt have time for replacements.he said business will only be done at the start of the window if any 1 wants our players.so i will be anoyed if that happens.and i think some 1 will def be brought in by fri.pards has got his poker face on
spyro how can you say we have a squad to take us forward we have more games than last year the young players are not yet good enough for the first team as for europe the further we get the harder it gets we will come across some very good teams ware we have to plat our first team to have a chance of progressing ferther any thing happens to collo or taylor and we are fooked williams is poor perch is not a cb santon is no left back we need at least 2 or 3 players to take us forward
I think I’ll start a rumour, Cabaye and Debuchy both to Arsenal…
Aaahh don’t say that MM @60. Have to agree with you Chris @59. No depth at CB will kill us this season if we advance far in either Europe or either cup. Unless some of the young uns improve dramatically (I’m thinking of players like Vuckic, Abeid, Gosling, and Sammy rather than the even younger ones) we will have to field much stronger sides to get anywhere in other comps while resting most of the first team for the league.
Spyro – surely then if clubs around us haven’t (in your opinion) strengthened, that’s more reason for us to!. The fact is we need quality AND quantity because if you replace 2 players with one and that one gets injured – who do you put in then?. If you do not recognize that we are light at LB, CB and CF then you miles wide of the mark mate. Nobody is saying they want the club to spend £20-30m on one player – in fact most acknowledge that £20m for Carroll would be far too much. Most people did expect the club to spend around £15-20m on strengthening the squad in the areas that Pardew himself has identified. I’m afraid for you to say that the signings we have made has improved the squad is premature and unfounded at this stage as non of our new signings have EPL experience.
If youre happy with what the club have done this window that’s your perogative mate.
But for me, and most on here, the club have shown little to no ambition
tiote has already said he is happy ware he is and doesont wont to leave if any one i think it could be cabye
i am very disappointed with this window i thought with last seasons great finish then we would push on sign some quality players and possible end our silverware drought but as ever cashleighs to tight and dont understand passion amongst the best the best fans in the country !!! not a happy mag
Sorry GeordieTwo
I feel that to sell Tiote or Timmy would be disastrous. Cabaye for 20 mill would get Ashley’s palms sweating…
The biggest piece of madness will be when our 4 million pound right back Danny Simpson walks away at the end of the season for nowt…
geordie 2 spot on would it not be a blessing if we didont progress in europe with the players we have it would hinder our league form and risk more injurys
the bottom line is all the best teams only buy 1 or 2 players a season.every 1 has gone mad with players this transfer window and it will backfire.nufc are stable and have the same team.we will get top 6 again this season.we dont have to gel.the team will get better and better. no 1 likes playing toon were so hard to play against.its like building a jigsaw if only anita comes in this window its fine.well get another in jan.it just takes time lads
It’s obvious that Dempsey hasn’t moved to Liverpool because the Andy Carroll situation isn’t cleared up yet. Still a few days to go before the window closes…
do not no why we didont go for sturridge he can play on the wing and up front if we loose ba and cissie carnt see him geting many games at chelski every one wanted him playing for us last season he would fit in well
looks more like he is about to spit his dummy out again to me.
And who could blame the fella
Must be bloody trying, working for this board.
Yet again its clear that we have an owner and MD that know feck all about football.
Roll on midnight friday and then let the football season begin in earnest , saturday morning we will know where we stand and what we can really expect from our team . Incomings and out goings may or may not happen but i will be pleased when the window slams shut and we can get on with the football . My prediction 1 surprise incoming ,no big name outgoings , but a couple of the younger lads out on loan .
ASHLEY SELL UP AND GO no ambition
Seems to be no place for Debuchy in this evenings Lille line-up…
36 mins played lille have had 10 shots on goal they are realy going for it .
If you look at the fact that Dembele is a 15 million pound man, then no wonder we’re not interested in signing anybody. Crazy money doing the rounds… you also need to take the lads mere pittance of a salary for the next 5 years into the equation to see what it all means…
Is Debuchy injured? I feel like I saw somwhere a day or two ago that he was not in contention for tonight.
There’s the goal for Lille… It’s been coming.
beardsley boots he playing safe just incase no1 comes in.but i bet we get 1
everton are scoring for fun
KKFOREVER what would you know sure you know fuk all
|cedog where are you its dede
dave iam talking to you daughter on fb she sent me friends request grey back
silver fox to you ,see am gonna have to get that wet kipper out and slap you round abit 
Andy Carroll will sign on Friday with N’Zogbia as well. Anyone want to buy me a pint?
ime here son been talking to batty on f/b,how are you going mate
how you keeping any way silverback had any tints done latley
highlights
http://www.talksport.co.uk/magazine/big-picture/120829/picture-cabaye-arsenal-shirts-sale-club-website-real-179810?
When does the window officially close?
I think Spurs have done a cracking bit of business selling Modric for around £30m and signing Dembele for £15m. Dembele is a better all round midfielder in my opinion plus it leaves them with £15m to buy themselves either the French goalkeeper or a centre forward.
Very smart business.
Icedog how is ice and auntie val doing
dede
Ice
, obviously someone’s hacked the site and put his name in 
. Some people are idiots, believing its ligit. Thats right, clubs now announce signings on the club store website when your buying a shirt 
.
what a load of shite
DAVE they are doing good,ice is in bed already val is good,how is your footy coming on hope your dad is not fouling you
Fulham sell Dembele and Liverpool sniffing around Dempsy ,i think Fulham could be heading into a relegation battle .Wonder if Douglas would really want too join them ?
@ Chris..59
Why can i say it because successful teams are based on stability not masses of new signings , so for me the most important thing was keeping what we have intact.
So far we have done that and until that changes neither will my opinions and as i said earlier no-one has strengthened significantly enough from last year.not to say we cant be up there come May
As for Europa we have a squad that granted may not be able to rest all its top players each game thats no different from lot of clubs.
But where as you feel some of our youngsters arnt good enough yet i disagree and think some are going to push their way into contention very soon and play a big part in our season.
We playing in Europe so we moving forward , we have a stronger squad than end of last year ..still moving forward
Still see us come May up there in mix for European places so consolidation of Europa League for a 2nd season will still see us moving forward
Just maybe not as quickly as you would like
But im not prepared to condemn or write us off after 3 games
kkforever what do you think your doing talking to my sister i’ll slap you with a wet kipper grey back and don’t worry about my dad because hes number 1 silver back like
dede
MM@68 Liverpool also wanted Walcott as well but he’s staying put at least until January ,he made an agreement with Arsenal today ,was on SSN.
Re -Debuchy ,Apparently it’s all over Italian press a deals been reached and he’s away there. Another one defo bites the dust.
wheres that dede at he talks more sense than his dad
Icedog my dad is not fouling me because he is too old to catch me
but i have to go to bed soon because i have to start back to school tomorrow 
Backup Striker option: Jozy Altidore! Scored 15 goals for AZ Alkmaar last season, has scored 4 goals in their first four games this season, 22 years old, 6’1″, strong & young, still developing…
dede i will be thinking of you stick in son and keep up with the footy son
Batty where are you because i will beat you if you be cheeky to my dad because he is the champ dede
SPYRO while i agree with you about stability and keeping our best players ,i dont agree with that no body has strengthened significantly . These last couple of days spurs with Adebayour and Dembele have added quality too their creative attacking ranks and Everton seem too have added some quality as well .Those 2 teams will be in the mix for Europe come the seasons end .
dede behave
spyro yr spot on.loads of signings doesnt mean success.look at liverpool last season.keeping the same team is what we want.look what they done last year with only 1 season together.we can only get better.cisse full season ahead and anita.takes time to build the right team
dede i dont mind having you a fight after school brind your dad along so i get slap him with a et kipper
and make sure you bring plenty of sweets with you ile have them as well 
I really had hoped for a CB AND MAYBE a striker , just don’t understand how they don’t see the urgent need for a decent CB with Saylor so injury prone.
FANS Altidore is not technically good enough for the premiership , he has a first touch like a bull in a china shop , where he is now is his limit , Toivonen from PSV on the other hand has every sort of skill needed for the premiership but would need to be calmed down ,he is as off his heed as his Swedish international team mate Zlatan Ibrahimovich .
bbc say on tweets that l/pool trying to tie up deal for carroll with west ham
We are incomparable to Spurs and Liverpool as their revenues are much higher than ours.
Everton are on our level. The last 4 seasons in a row they have made a profit in the transfer window.
So the big question is whether we would be happy to follow that method
A lot of people seem to think we should both be keeping our big players and adding to them to show ambition. but which clubs in the league do that
People mention how “even the mackems” are spending more than us, but conveniently ignore that it took them nearly two years to spend much of the Bent money and a year to spend the Henderson money.
They had one striker (Bendtner?!) for much of last year.
Also conveniently brushed aside is that teams like Arsenal and Tottenham have both also made profits this window.
No CB a disgrace. But our transfer policy is still a winner.
Icedog i will win you some matches this year for
you and will speak to you soon as i have to go to to bed now .
batty come on will bring it on son i will beat the life out of you
dede
Maybe a fair critique, Axel, but he is young and, while I haven’t seen any of these goals, I read this line and thought “he must be improving!”
“Altidore’s goals so far this Eredivisie season have been of immense quality that has showcased his creativity and off-ball movement in addition to just pure finishing.”
http://www.yanks-abroad.com/content.php?mode=show&id=9393
nite nite son sleep good
Spyro/Dale – nobody is taking about loads of signings tho
!!, simply saying strengthen were we are weak. Nobody wants to sell any of the players we have already and sign loads of new ones. Surely adding 2-3 players in the areas required – ie LB, CB and CF makes sense, doesn’t it?
Ice have you got a big keep net because i have caught batty a cracker
night night howay the lads 
Lille now 2-0 up.
15 mil for dembelle
i bet guthrie has a better season than him.hes good but come on 15 mil.spuds wasting money like liverpool with torres money burning a hole in their pocket.all these teams will be fooked in 1 year or 2 with fair play rules 
dede its uncle batty to you
Wow Spuds have some real expensive people sitting on the bench eating up the wedge…
Nolan Roux looks very good. Didn’t we scout him a few years ago?
sharpy theres nowt i want more than 2 or 3 more players i.e debuccy douglas and a striker.but if the right ones arent available we cant get them.we waited for cisse and look what happend.would we swap him now for erdinc maiga or gervinho
Uncle batty he is away now so watch your mouth boy or i will slap the napper of you lad.
Ice hows you and Batty stop stalking me daughter you fuking ladyboy lover.
DAVE you get my e-mail birthday boy
Batty I will remind him that its uncle batts
dave fuck off ya silverback ,just wonder what you must be tellin dede or slagging me to him for him to have a go at me ,you think you know some 1 when realy there slagging you behind you back ,batty was the mellow me kkforever is the nasty me if you have any sort of memory at all back stabber
Lille continue in the CL…
iam no batty iam kk just remember that back stabber
Batty jump in to that net you fuking big jessie
Batty you are the biggest fuk pot I know on the blogs so fuking wind your neck in knob head
http://nothingbutnewcastle.com/2012/08/blogs/picture-proof-that-arsenal-will-sign-cabaye?
Big Dave you have achieved fame. Look at the bottom pic, second from bottom.
Dale – the problem that you have with that argument tho mate is that Debuchy, Douglas and LDJ (being the striker we were linked with)
We just didn’t/wouldn’t meet the valuation Lille and Twente placed on the players
Re Cisse, no I wouldn’t swap him for any of the other players mention. But we walked away from the Cisse deal and nearly lost him – again because we refused to meet the asking price. It was only because Frieburg bought another striker and wanted to offload Cisse and offered him to us that we eventually landed him. Cisse was a huge slice of luck, make no mistake mate.
Pardew wanted a CB in Jan and was chasing Tomkins when Frieburg rang – we were no longer chasing Cisse at that point, hence why it all went through so quick – coz they couldn’t believe their luck.
Rhodes going to Blackburn for 8 million
thats stupid money for that league .Ok the lads a goal scorer and i would of liked us to of took a chance on him ,but thats too much for a player from league 1 .
Batty stop stalking me daughter ,what you trying to imply dimwit
Axel
From what people had written, (could be wrong). The lad Rhodes IS a natural goalscorer…….but in league 1. He was nowhere near being a premier league striker though apparently, hence why no-one will spend the dosh. I hope he does well at Blackburn mind, especially after the luck they have had with Best.
Mark Douglas @MsiDouglas
Mirror claiming Carroll ditched by #lfc and now considering future. Still think that’s the one to watch.
@Sharpy
don’t think they wanted rid of him like
they signed a replacement so reluctantly let him go
Agree with the premise that if went all the way back to last summer and Frieberg said 15Mill for Cisse I would still snap their hands off.
If we are signing players with a view to them having a sell on value surely we can budge a bit and just offset the profit we’ll possibly make on them in the future.
Only issue is where to draw the line.
Can’t believe Carroll would go to West Ham ,not after saying he wants Euro footie like, Sounds like Pool desperate to get shot now they know we are out of the running.
Batty wind your fuking neck in before I loss the bap with yo you dimwit
Here Batts it will be a good laugh if we get a blog reunion till we get to meet a few of the wingnuts on the blog
Seems Spurs are close to tying up Moutinho too.
Teams we were competing with continue to strengthen whilst we twiddle our thumbs.
Such a disappointing window that has developed the way I feared it would. We were unable to get rid of the likes of Simpson, Ranger and perhaps a big player so barely any funds were released. Utterly ridiculous.
Times like this I wonder where the merchandise, gate receipts and TV money goes?
dave theres only a hand full that ide like to meet from the blogs and your not 1 of them dimwit sorry i ment half wit
stardy is 1 ide like to see if he is a realy ugly that troy says he is ,So i could take the piss
ST – the thing is tho, we should be looking at signings that will improve our squad – not ones that will make us the most profit.
The only people who have ever really made money in the world of football is the players, so if profit is what Ashley is looking for, he’s in the wrong game.
If Frieburg did not want to get rid of Cisse, why did they sell him to us then?!
Cheers Batts atleast I know where your coming from you big fruit, i’ll just stick with my mate ice!
TV money was something like £45million this year. Yet we can only get £3-4million for players. I’m sorry I just don’t buy it.
This window is seemingly telling us all we need to know about life under MA. He has no intention to put any money into the club and is clearly paying off his loan with the TV money etc.
…Look at what people are clinging on to now, signing Andy Carroll on a loan to buy deal. A player that most can see no longer fits our style of play, unless we plan to revert back to lumping it long. Why?! Why do we need him? We don’t and to me it is nothing but a distraction. We aren’t chasing anybody imo.
I’m all for paying a fair price, but at what point does it just become an excuse to offer significantly less than what teams want in a bid to make it look like we are trying?
It just never adds up. Offer £9million for De Jong as we know Twente wanted £11, offer £4million for Debuchy as we know Lille wanted £6 etc…Before ending up with either a cheaper alternative, loan, or nobody at all. That’s not how a team with ambition operates. That’s not how a team with actual goals operates.
If the window closes and we don’t get a few through the door it will prove once and for all we are going nowhere under this regime.
I will wait to see what happens by Friday night but after the season we had last year to not try and improve the team further beyond Anita is ridiculous.
the big fruit silverback
and thats coming of your d
No there isnt much choice really, but if there was, who would rather have Walcott than Carol? Just thinking he can play on the wing or up front without a problem and would fit just fine into 433.
Of course probs get neither, just a thought though
Play nicely lovers
aye toonsy you get him told
toonsy what the fuk would you know bullroot??
this window we will get carrol or no 1 end of.
Bullroot? Silverback? What is this, an obscure insults convention? Ah, what do you fucking mooks know about insulting each other?
tonsy ide ban him for that if you know what bullroot meens
fsoth wind ya neck in quartwit
Dillholes.
batty is chief bullroot and toonsy is 2ic
dillholes
batty your a c@nt
I quite like quartwit.
by the way batty my daughter thinks you look at little like pards
dave iam not gonna bring meyself up to your level
good nite 
rodz is a fuk wit
Well, I’m off to drink some beers, you meatheads. So long.
dave my daughter and missis think you look like mike ashley ,but me lads reckon you have a bit of elton john in you
nite
fsotc nite enjoy
wouldn’t be the first time you had a bit of elton john in you fruity boy so long sucker!
@ Sharpy ..Sorry for slow reply mate 2 yr old refused to settle
Ive agreed previous that a CB would be welcome
As for LB imo Santon has enough quality to improve this year – Anita has played there for Ajax as an alternative and i also think once fitness proved Pieters will be a target in January.
Same with CF think the powers that be are going to take a calculated risk in waiting to see if we losing Ba/Cisse for ACON before splashing any cash and use Shola /Sammy/Campbell to cover
Im not disagreeing that new faces wouldnt be welcome additions or wouldnt add quality in areas
But not at the expense of our current transfer policy , buy at our price not theirs
or
Buying someone that doesnt add anything much more than what one of our youngsters can give.
and like you said a lot of people expected us to spend £15-£20 million i can still see that happening but January buys included in that kitty
Carroll and Nolan suited each others game though and get the goals by being a bunch of bullies. Esp Nolan on the keeper at corners. So I hope he doesn’t go there.
I saw that Dave, you nincompoop
I empathise with the frustrations of The Kid@143
47 hours and counting……..
The Kid @143
‘I’m sorry I just don’t buy it’.
Mike Ashley echoes your sentiments.
…waheyyyyy
http://www.themag.co.uk/blog/the-day-i-met-mike-ashley/?
According to this geezer he wants us to be like Arsenal………So thats not trophies for seven years and the best striker wanting to leave then?
@TheKid
The rest of the premiership are in the same boat
As I keep harping on about, our situation is the same as Everton’s.
And as I keep asking, would people be happy if we sold a big player to fund the transfers of a few others
It’s all very well saying our rivals are strengthening but looking at the hard facts shows that Spurs/Arsenal/Everton have all made a profit this window.
So I don’t get the whole theory that Ashley shouldn’t be selling anyone, only buying, when the evidence of teams around us (in Spurs/Arsenal’s case, teams with much higher revenues) suggest otherwise.
@Sharpy
I’m assuming he wanted to go. He was their top ever Bundesliga scorer! They definitely didn’t want to sell him mate. Apparently he was the only reason they ever survived in the league. Should probably ask Munich Mag for a better response though.
@Sharpy
Also it’s not profits for Ashley – it’s profits for the club.
Mike Ashley and Newcastle United are two seperate entities.
He loaned us money to clear our Freddie Shepard era debt so that we wouldn’t have to pay extortionate interest fees.
When we pay Ashley back we aren’t clearing “his debts” we are clearing Newcastle United FC’s debts.
THE KID
August 29, 2012 at 22:43
Seems Spurs are close to tying up Moutinho too.
Teams we were competing with continue to strengthen whilst we twiddle our thumbs.’
This is true, but at the same time Spurs sold Modric for a fee ‘in the region of £33M’. Arsenal bought Cazorla, but sold Van Persie for £24M. So these clubs are not just buying, apart from moneybags Sunderland out of desperation, coz the top dogs are back in town.
DJG – To be fair, I don;t think we can moan about Arsenal winning their last trophy seven years ago. When was our last proper one again?
bloody hell, the old ladies were swinging their handbags on here last night
So can someone please explain to me as to why signing an extra player or two will automatically guarantee a top 6 finish and a strong cup run
We seem to have become so obsessed with getting these extra players in, that now if we don’t, everything will fall to pieces.
Our team will be fine as is…. we can’t keep looking at what the Jones’ are doing and comparing ourselves to them. We are always complaining that our young guys don’t get a chance so this could be a good opportunity for them. I’m not talking about putting 3 on the park at one time but one here and there when needed. I’m looking forward to seeing them get some game time to be honest.
So if we don’t get the player(s) in, well so be it.. Just remember, getting an extra body or two in will not guarantee anything in regards to league places, all it will do is ease fans anxieties for the short term…
There is nothing to worry if Pardew can keep hold of the players that he currently have, no need to buy, but more importantly no selling either!
I see Rodgers has finally admitted he doesn’t want Carroll and they can’t afford to have that kind of money sitting on the bench… This is what happens when you pay a player 80k per week based on 1/2 a seasons performance. You couldn’t half see this financial mess coming. The moment they missed out on the Champs league, is the moment everything suddenly gets really expensive. Even if the deal is right for us, we should leave Andy at Liverpool to keep burning a deeper hole in their dried up bank account
Krul
Santon Saylor Colo Anita
Cabaye Tioté Jonas
Ben Arfa Ba
Cisse or Carroll
Harper Raylor Perch Bigi Vuckic Marveaux or Fergie Cissé or Carroll
That’s enough for me
INT PUB DAY
Brisvegas stands at the door. The pub is mostly empty but he can hear the echo 3 old men bickering like schoolgirls.
Aussie Magpie Fan sits at his usual stool at the bar. He’s eating roasted wombat sandwiches. Blackbartoon is scribbling random names on a wall.
Brisvegas:
Huw there, Oz. Y’alreet, man?
He walks to the bar. settles into a stool at the other end of the bar from AMF.
Brisvegas:
Pint of lager, Toonsy, man. When you’re ready.
Agree with Aussie @ 179, perfectly sums up the situation for me. Not worried in the slightest.
Aussie puts his glass of beer down on the bar top and looks toward Vegas. They exchange a knowing glance and both fight back a frown for they know that Troy Stavers will come barreling through the door at any moment.
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ST – you miss my point, what I mean is that the new signings should improve our squad not turn a profit – whether that be profit for Ashley or NUFC. To use Modric as an example, Spurs paid £16.5m for him with a view to him improving their squad, not with a view of almost doubling their money on him one day. Que the ‘we are not on the same financial level’ line, but it’s an example.
Reports today suggest that Madrid have agreed a fee of €7m for Debuchy. Dont know how true it is, but if so – we’ve missed out our main transfer target for the sake of £800k. If that turns out to be true then there is no defending that like and is a prefect example of how ridiculous this board is being in the windows.
Transfer deadline day in France is Tuesday. Does that mean that we can sign French players until Tuesday? Or is that extension only for transfers within France?
@29…Fans should own the club.
This should clear up your Sock errrrrr??? and Football confusion!
http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=http://www.nastyhobbit.org/data/media/1/football-handegg.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.nastyhobbit.org/details.php?image_id%3D1606&h=680&w=875&sz=74&tbnid=JXE7UYL8lvcLKM:&tbnh=92&tbnw=118&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dfootball%2Bhandegg%26tbm%3Disch%26tbo%3Du&zoom=1&q=football+handegg&usg=__1OzWFs2LpmpCKPyKAHx6UqJD19E=&hl=en&sa=X&ei=npU_UMGCEMi40QX2p4GwCA&sqi=2&ved=0CCMQ9QEwAQ&dur=1682
thank me later. ta ta.
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