Whilst some fans have been dead set against him from the start, I think it’s fair to say that he’s done enough to win the vast majority around, especially last season when we played some great stuff and finished in a very decent and unexpected 5th place in the league.
However things aren’t going to plan this season and whilst I never expected us to really match what we achieved last season, mainly due to a failure by the ownership to add to the squad over the summer but also because I feel last season we had a lot of things go our way. I didn’t expect us to be this rubbish though and we are getting to the point now where questions need answering.
We’ve lost three games on the bounce now – two at home and one away – against teams that we shouldn’t have lost to. Granted any team can beat the other on the day but the fact is that we just haven’t looked like winning. Not even close. I dare say we could still be playing at Southampton and we still wouldn’t have mustered a shot on target.
The result yesterday really tipped my opinion. We we’re awful and I’m that p*ssed off about it still I haven’t even bothered writing a match report about it. In fairness I can write a brief one now which sums up our “performance” at St Mary’s. We never threatened. Southampton bossed us and deserved the win. The end. Sound about right?
Anyway I’m digressing as it isn’t just about the performance yesterday, which was woeful (I may have mentioned that previously…). It’s about the performances in general. I can take losing if we’re still performing and looking likely to get out of this rut we are stuck in, but we’re not and somebody has to start taking the blame for it.
Whilst I sympathise with Pardew in the sense that we are dealing with an awful lot of injuries right now, ultimately it is his job to get the best of whichever players are fit and available for selection. For whatever reason, that just isn’t happening.
If things aren’t working, which clearly they aren’t, then I expect to see something change. Isn’t a definition of madness trying the same thing over and over again but expecting different results? That’s what I’m seeing. No change in formation, approach or tactics, just the same thing time and again.
Pressure is growing on Alan Pardew in what is a results based business. Ultimately results have been poor and if they continue in that vein then surely it will only end one way? I don’t buy this eight-year deal being a sign of security either. Contracts are worth nothing these days and I have no doubt that Mike Ashley would have made sure he doesn’t have to pay out any huge compensation figure should the worst happen.
I don’t think Pardew is set for the chop yet and I honestly think he’s earned a bit of patience, but if things don’t improve soon enough then surely something will have to change?
What do you think?
Troy – I agree. AVB has a excellent CV and was so well respected on World football before his short spell at Chelsea practically ruined his career. Even now at Spurs, he’s being judged after a handful of games. Roy Hodgson the same at Lpool.
Pardew needs time and financial backing, I hope he gets both – but I fancy the ‘clueless Chris’ fans amongst us may already be sharpening their knives.
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@B&B
I believe I’ve countered your argument.
Please read my post again.
Troy Stavers(Quote)
very strange bradford didnt play Good as he was suffering from fatigue after training 😯 mmmmmmmmmmmmm
icedog(Quote)
Troy @ 74 again I agree with that but I would also say that while Moyes is on a shoestring budget surely we can afford more of a budget than everton our average gates are 50000 Evertons is 33000 that alone must make a massive difference never mind anything else
Big Dave(Quote)
Troy@71,74 – I think that Pardew’s performance does need to be assessed in January. The board should, at this stage, have a short-list of replacements in hand, but not be in contact with them. This probably isn’t far from your own view.
But we do, historically, outspend Everton. Just taking the last three seasons (so including the sale of AC but not the relegation sales), Newcastle profited to the tune of about 10 million on transfer dealings (excluding agent fees, etc.), while Everton went up 19 million. Over the next five years, that should put us ahead of them as a regular “spoiler” to the big however many.
Wellington(Quote)
Toon Chicken unfortunately you are only as good as the last game, and we have been shocking this season, even with a supposed full strength team.
The big question is how long it takes to turn things round and whether he will be given the time. End of Jan will be a critical time.
Munich Mag(Quote)
see jabba does spend money 😀
http://www.nufcfans.co.uk/2012/11/mike-ashley-newcastle-sports-direct-house-of-fraser/?
icedog(Quote)
Not read all the comments yet but just a few points.
I don’t buy that a lack of ambition is down to how we’re like now. A couple of players maybe but in all honesty why would that dismay our youngsters and squaddies? If good talent comes in they’ll lose their spot and possibly their place at newcastle united-surely they want to prove they can do a job for us? Instead they’re all playing like *****. This is nothing to do with the injury aspect-that has definitely cost us-but the “ambition” tag? I don’t really buy it.
As for the “unrest”-any side that loses three games on the trot will cause frustration among players, we’re exactly the same as most teams in our position. Given that there are no training ground bust ups I’m not too worried, but what I would say is Ba/Cisse have serious ego issues and no longer seem to want to play with each other, even though I think they can, given the right support.
Newkie(Quote)
Also-one more point-Those saying Everton fans stick behind David Moyes have very short memories or are completely lying. I’ve heard Everton fans moan and say how Moyes won’t take them any further and how he should be sacked, and how he wastes the money given to him on poor players. Fickle as the rest of us I’m afraid. Purely down to Moyes getting them out of the ******* each year and everyone forgetting about it…or in this case starting well….If they faded, ill feeling would be rife.
Newkie(Quote)
Troy You can’t keep calling for the board to give the manager more and more money to throw at a problem. Don’t forget the manager said he was happy with his squad going into the season. Both you and he were delighted at the signing of Anita.
I reckon Pards enjoyed a honeymoon period with the players last season. As time has gone on, they’ve found him out and lost confidence in him. I wouldn’t be surprised if Clyne turned down Pards rather than NUFC; I’m sure KK would have got him.
I am predicting this run to continue indefinitely. I can safely say I’ve seen enough of Pards now to be very confident that he will achieve nothing at NUFC. I’m sure you will blame the board when they find they have no choice but to wield the axe. Their fault will not be that they sack him but that they appointed him in the first place.
The whole embarrassing script is already written for worldwide viewing: And finally … the EPL football club that sacked its manager shortly after awarding him an eight year contract. It could only happen at NUFC.
Blackley & Brownlie(Quote)
Newkie@84 – I think the argument is that the Everton board persist with Moyes and that they are correct to do so, regardless of what some fans think.
Wellington(Quote)
B&B@85 – A prophecy like that should be remembered. I have bookmarked this page.
Wellington(Quote)
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@Welly
We are a long way off January, with many games in between. Why would the board have a short list of possible replacements. ?
If they have, then they haven’t learnt from their past **** ups regarding knee **** reactions when it comes to appointing managers. 5 in one season rings a bell and then relegation !!
Troy Stavers(Quote)
WELLINGTON so you can assure that if we had of kept Best he still would have picked up the injury ? As for Lovens yeah his goal record doesn’t really set him apart but then he was played on the wing quite a bit too, but still as you say he has only scored 9 in 45 or 2308 mins on the pitch 😀 fuk wonder why we gave Strolla a new contract as he has scored 8 in 63 or 3016 mins
Big Dave(Quote)
Wellington-Fair enough, if that’s what it is, like I said not caught up yet 😆
Even so, the board put up with him because he is decent and willing to work under constraints, who else would they find? We are in the same situation imo.
Di Matteo can do one, very average manager IMO. Good when things are going well, but WBA gave him the boot when the rot set in and look how well it’s worked out for them, stabilisation by hodgson and then having him bought out by the F.A and now flying high under his successor…
Newkie(Quote)
Frightening to be talking about replacing the manager. I have no idea about how Ashley thinks about it but how about strengthening the side in January and seeing how we do til the end of the season? I don’t think Pardew will survive if we are around 15th or lower after the January window closes if Ashley has any intention of a top 6 finish (it sounds ridiculous to say that right now I know). If we had a trustworthy owner/MD I know I would feel a lot better right now but I seem to remember something about lying to the supporters now and then?
GeordieTwo(Quote)
Welly – If you’re going to book mark my prediction, let me be clear. By this “run”, I mean “of poor performances”. We may get a win somewhere if we’re lucky, but I predict many more losses than wins. I also predict it will all end in tears for Pards soon. I’ve got no sympathy for him because he’s an overpaid buffoon.
Blackley & Brownlie(Quote)
Sharpy @ 76 > but I fancy the ‘clueless Chris’ fans amongst us may already be sharpening their knives.
What exactly is a clueless Chris fan ? are you talking about fans that called him clueless ❓ if so I think you will find that those were the 1st ones to get behind Pards and are still behind him
Big Dave(Quote)
Wellington you’ve certainly spiced it up today. Thanks for your comments. Right now we’re in 14th place and deserve to be there. Pardew is clearly not happy but has no real leverage with those above him. Whether LLambias/Ashley are starting to have doubts about that 8 year contract we won’t know unless they sack him this season at some point. I would love to be able to sack Llambias and get a true football man in there but it’s not going to happen with Ashley around I don’t think. So what can we hope for in the short term? That the players stay cool and play hard, Llambias keeps his gob shut, Ashley starts checking his purse and Carr makes some inspired scouting trips.
GeordieTwo(Quote)
Shearer would struggle to score goals in this side.
Tactics for me are a million miles away from where they should be. Krul has to stop kicking the ball into the sky. Simpson and Williamson have to be replaced with immediate effect. Both are only average defenders but when we have posession they are non existent. Cannot see a pass and cannot make a pass. It is as if we are playing with eight outfield players against ten. We go wide too early which makes it very easy for the opposition to defend. The time to go wide is in the final third not in our half. Our midfield plays in a horizontal line across the pitch which makes the pitch too wide. Also the only pass on is a square negative pass. We have to tuck in a bit in deep lying positions something like the much talked about diamond formation. Ba and Cisse are not and never will be a partnership. I think the club was hoping Ba would have been bought in the summer when they kept advertising the fact he was available for 7.5 million.
We must also hope in January Cabbaye, Benny and Tiote don’t jump ship
Toby le Rhone(Quote)
Questions also have to be asked what JC and Steve Stone are contributing. How many UEFA coaching licence courses do you need to go on to work out that hoofing the ball from back to front or playing chip passes to strikers with their backs to goal is the way forward.
Toby le Rhone(Quote)
Troy@88 – A month flies by. Trying to figure out who to sign on January 2nd would be a mistake – exactly the sort of knee-**** reaction you’re decrying. As I say, they should have the list in hand, but only as a precaution.
Dave@89 – Best’s injury simply prevents us from talking about his form this season. I don’t think that either his EPL record or his signing for Blackburn are the hallmarks of a player who can really do the job for us. (Nor, by the way, was palming off Shola and keeping Best an option – the Irishman is happy to be the main man at a smaller club, while Ameobi is content and capable providing support to the stars.) Lovenkrands, frankly, is a player who relied on his pace and is slowing down. Peter’s time at the club was at an end.
Wellington(Quote)
Good points Toby. I would add that Cisse must be taught that there is a rule related to being off-side and he had better learn it. We could also tell Llambias that paying a fair price for a player is not an outrageous thing to do and that perhaps we don’t have as many purples as he thought we had, and that some of our stand-ins are not only not brilliant, they are not even basic Prem quality.
GeordieTwo(Quote)
Wellington no matter what you say or how you dress it up they were 2 experienced player that we got shot off and never replaced simple
Big Dave(Quote)
TLR-I agree with your last point. I know some might consider it heresy to question Carver, but I do wonder what the **** the backroom staff are up to as well these days. Do they think they’re safe because they also have new 8 year deals?
Or perhaps, they want Pards to get the sack and get their payout….I mean who honestly remembers when coaching staff move clubs? Under the radar, unlike managers… 😕
Newkie(Quote)
Newkie@90 – I think there’s an argument that Moyes is actually the best manager in the League. His ability to keep on rebuilding the squad, tactically out-wit managers with better teams, and the superb fighting spirit of his teams testify to a real great of the game. That doesn’t mean he’d do well with a bigger club – it might be that Moyes motivates his men as outsiders – but he really deserves more recognition.
It’s far too soon to make such judgments about Pardew, but I can’t see us getting anyone better.
G2@94 – Carr has long-term targets in his book, so we don’t need to rely on him tripping over the proverbial Kazakh wonderkid. The fixture list, to me, reads 9 points from the next 8 games through to January 2. The must-wins are Wigan and QPR, and I (optimistically) expect a draw at Stoke or Arsenal, but not both. That leaves the squad (which had better be reinforced) with another twenty and change to pick up through the last 17 games to finish in the mid-table. That would be good enough for a season in which the club makes a sortie into the Europa League.
Wellington(Quote)
I think Anita will turn out to be a good signing for us. He is showing signs and it is still early days. He is another small player however and might find the Prem to be more difficult to adapt to than he thought. Have we really replaced the on-field qualities of Barton and Nolan? I would say not. Cabaye is a good player but not a leader and not a goal poacher to any extent and he seems fairly fragile to boot. I have been fairly disappointed with his set pieces including corners. Have we ever had a good enough set of CB’s under Ashley? I would argue no and unless we get another “steal” from some unsuspecting club I think this will continue. Are we deep enough up front? I would say no but a good striker will cost us plenty. Did Pardew think we were going to get a CB and a RB last summer? I would say yes and he was probably as shocked as we were when neither came in. Does this add up to a team capable of playing far more games at a high level this season than we had to last season? I think the answer (think 14th place) is obvious.
GeordieTwo(Quote)
Dave@99 – whenever anyone makes their argument based on saying that things are simple, I suspect them of over-simplifying things. Life, even when it comes to football, is not simple. When our squad issues have primarily been in the defence, complaining of the loss of forwards misses the point entirely.
(Unless you’re saying that Best would have been the ideal man to fill in for Colo, in which case we can just stop the discussion now.)
Wellington(Quote)
Joey is turning French
Toby le Rhone(Quote)
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@Welly
Do you believe the Everton board compiled a list of possible replacements for Moyes, season on season come November. Everton seem to struggle for the first part of the season almost as a tradition.
This season not being the norm.
Troy Stavers(Quote)
Wellington-Yeah, don’t get me wrong I do rate Moyes as a manager. I wouldn’t say the best but he’s great at what he does. Still think he’s a bit questionable in the transfer market, considering he’s supposed to do “the best he can” on a shoestring budget.
Newkie(Quote)
Although, he has found some tidy bargains..
Newkie(Quote)
G2@102 – I don’t think there’s too much wrong with Colo/Taylor as a combination, except that Steven, frustratingly, doesn’t offer that much of a threat from set pieces. It’s not clear to me that Pardew was shocked not to get his men. He would know by now that the board are prepared to wait, and with Douglas as the preferred new CB there were reasons to stare down Twente.
Wellington(Quote)
Ha that’s right Toby and he thinks he would be a better manager than Mancini apparently! Always good for a quote. He could have been so much better as a player if he had behaved himself earlier on but then he wouldn’t be Joey. As for us we had better hope some of our players stay healthier (not just Cabaye, but Vuckic, Gosling, Obertan, Shola if we are to get anything out of him, and even Raylor) since we probably won’t spend enough at any point in the near future. And surely there is a more inexpensive manager out there than Pardew, and why do we need a training staff anyway (just frustrated I guess)?
GeordieTwo(Quote)
Troy@105
They probably did the first time around. Obviously in later seasons they could have more confidence in Moyes. We’re not at that point yet. Pardew has certainly shown that he can sustain momentum, but there should be a contingency if the squad does not perform through to January (less than 4 points from the next 8 games ought to raise serious questions, for example).
Again, we’re in hair-splitting territory. You certainly don’t believe that the club ought to hit the start of January, realise there’s a problem and start flailing about for a replacement. If a change has to be made – and again, that would mean less than 4 points from the next 8 games – it needs to be before any new signings come in, for their sake and the new manager’s.
Wellington(Quote)
Colo/Saylor is decent as a combination Wellington but they don’t get to play together enough. Saylor is injury prone at best. Colo seems to lose it if someone is putting on a show like Suarez did. But beyond those two we have nothing to speak of. It’s far too early to talk about Good and I think Willo is hopeless at this level unless he is spoon-fed the ball by Colo. He’s only with us because he was a cheap buy as usual and he is on a low wage. That is too often the case with our squad. Another cheap buy who hasn’t panned out? Obertan. Another? Simpson. At this level (I mean at last year’s level really) we can’t afford players of this type any more. If we don’t get rid we won’t climb far in the table.
GeordieTwo(Quote)
It’s a shame Joey had to **** himself over here with his twittering. He’s actually the kind of player we could do with. Well, if he wasn’t so upset Cabaye is younger, cheaper and better looking or whatever.
Newkie(Quote)
Geordietwo-I find it hard that you can say the Simmo deal didn’t work out for us. Bought for 500k or something and has since been virtually ever present-even playing through injury when we had no real options to replace him with. No he isn’t the next level, but if we let him go in Jan and got some money in along with a better player, that works out fine for me.
Newkie(Quote)
Wellington I was simply making the point that we have a weaker squad by letting 3 players go you then tried to say that losing them players wasn’t really weakening the squad, well IMO it has weakened the squad if you don’t think it has thats fair enough but I do think it has weakened the squad as im sure Best and Loven would have came in handy especially in the Europa and im pretty sure Guthrie would have been a good option
Big Dave(Quote)
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@Welly
Me thinks they probably didn’t the first time. 😉
Maybe Southampton and West Ham shouldn’t have done the first time as well. 😉
Give this bloke a chance and unless we are looking doomed for relegation then it shouldn’t be considered.
I find this witch hunt incredible.
Troy Stavers(Quote)
Good points Newkie. Simpson does try hard and he has filled in for us but surely the club can see he isn’t good enough? If they can’t we are in even bigger trouble than it appears. The same with Willo. If the plan is to stay in the bottom 10 each season, these 2 will be fine but if we are more ambitious they have to go. We can’t wait much longer with some of the other players either. I don’t think we can stay with both Marveaux and Obertan next season and overall I think Marveaux is more talented. We might have to bite the bullet on Gosling as well. Xisco will be gone finally so there is another opening there. And possibly we will sell Ranger (if he can behave himself for 5 minutes). All in all a lot of change must come if we are really to compete consistently for a European spot or a domestic cup.
GeordieTwo(Quote)
G2@111 – It’s almost like we’re rebuilding from relegation, isn’t it?
Troy@115 – I find it incredible that you consider this a witch hunt! 😉
Wellington(Quote)
If we get 4 points or less from the next 8 games I think Pardew will be gone Wellington but I’m hoping we can pull it together and begin to save the season. If we are in the bottom 4 by the end of 2012 however I don’t think anything will save Pardew because Ashley does tend to panic when things go wrong.
GeordieTwo(Quote)
G2@116 ,Trouble is we’ll get those guys off the book and not replace them I suspect. 🙄
KIMTOON(Quote)
Geordietwo-I think the problems come when both are playing in the same side, we do become pretty predictable then and if everyone else is under performing the pressure tells. Still while I’d like replacements/improvements I’m not going to make scapegoats out of them as almost everyone has been **** 😕 I agree about Xisco going…the fact that he won’t have long left in Jan will surely mean we can get someone of quality in along those wages as they will be offset when he leaves…
Newkie(Quote)
I’m all for giving Pards time ,if we can just scrape a couple of wins by xmas and amass 20 or even 23 points then hopefully Jabba will buy us a couple of defenders and a new fwd if Ba goes and we could kick on.My only reservation is that Pards doesn’t seem to want to try anything different formation wise and if we stay in this rut with the two Dembas up front we won’t get anywhere I’m afraid.
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@Welly
People are calling for Pards to be sacked having played 13 games this season. The strong abuse is incredible.
Criticism is acceptable but there’s no doubt to me, it’s a witch hunt. I am defining a witch hunt as a hunt to blame someone and when they find them, dunk them in the river until they drown. Because they drown they must have been a witch.
Absolute knee **** reactions from you and many others.
Troy Stavers(Quote)
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I’m on a witch hunt. Big Mick and Dastardly Derek ! 😡
Troy Stavers(Quote)
Kim-Thing is, some people paint Pards as some “ancient Englishman obsessed with 4-4-2.” Now despite the fact that the whole criticising 4-4-2 because it’s old and English and Barcelona/Spain don’t play it is complete and utter bullshit, I don’t think it even applies.
How many times has Pards set his euro team out 4-4-2? I don’t think he actually has has he? 😕 Same for the cup?
I think in some ways he’s been forced to play 4-4-2 because Ba has been scoring all our goals but to drop Cisse could prevent him finding form-I mean you were against dropping Cisse, as have been many others. No simple solution….I was pissed off he didn’t try the diamond a while back but maybe he felt the defence weren’t strong enough with Tiote/Colo suspensions….I do expect to see something new soon though..
Newkie(Quote)
Agree with Troy@122
Newkie(Quote)
Troy@122 – “People” are making those calls. But what do I say?
Well, @101 I put forward my view that Pardew will get 9 from the next 8. My belief is that we will get two wins and two draws from the games through to the 2nd of January. I feel that the team will recover to beat Wigan & QPR and hold two of Arsenal, Fulham, and Stoke.
At 110, I say that he probably should be sacked if he doesn’t get 4 from those games. It is my contention that less than 18 points on January 3rd would be far too few. In my mind, failing to pick up at least one win and one draw, or four draws, in the next eight games, is unacceptable.
That is not saying that he should be sacked now. I don’t want Pardew gone now. It would be a mistake if the board pulled the trigger in December.
I am repeating myself because you don’t seem to understand so far. My reiterating the point in a different manner is intended to somehow get through to you. If I keep saying much the same thing but changing the exact words, hopefully you’ll get it!
Wellington(Quote)
Newkie@125 – except for the suggestion that I’m among these “people”, so do I! 😯
Wellington(Quote)
He said he was going to get us playing swift, passing football and controlling games through keeping possession. That is what I expect to see from a good manager. There is absolutely no sign of it; in fact, we are going backwards on this measure. How much longer does he need? We need to do this before we stand any chance of success.
Blackley & Brownlie(Quote)
I would put myself in the Welly club as far as points to Jan 2 go. We must get at least 8 points in those games. If not it will no longer be a witch hunt and Pards must go. Even 8 points would only give us 22 which is terrible for past the half way mark but probably not disastrous. Does anyone know if any team that finished fifth in the previous season in the Prem has ever been relegated? Surely there can’t be many examples in top divisions anywhere. My proposal is that if Pardew survives to the end of January and Llambias brings nobody in, then Pardew would break down the door to his office, tie him to a chair, and force feed him his own tuffties. Is that fair?
GeordieTwo(Quote)
A good question from someone earlier, that no one answered.
If none of us want to see Pardew sacked and think he should be given time to turm things around, then how much time does he get.
If qpr overtake us in the league by new year, does he still get more time. ❓
Come on peeps, put your necks on the line.
I would say he cant afford to lose another 3 matches on the trot.
zero points from the next 3 games and he has to go
we have got to see some positive changes against stoke, wigan and fulham, or his time is up.
Just my opinion. Whats yours ❓
Beardsleys Boots(Quote)
Kimtoon you’re voicing the same fears most of us have. I could see Ashley panic and sack Pardew before he went and spent a decent sum in January just because it is the cheaper option (as with others I believe there are several performance related clauses in Pardew’s contract to save Ashley’s blushes).
GeordieTwo(Quote)
Zero points against Stoke, Wigan and Fulham will get him sacked BB. That would give us 14 points on 16 games with at least Wigan to move above us putting us in 15th at best. And with the next run of games after that it might be too late to turn us around.
GeordieTwo(Quote)
I don’t and never did think Pardew was a tactical maestro or anything: however, I did think he would do well at a big club with good resources. He hasn’t had the resources in the summer and has had players in poor form and injuries. That is kind of why the wheels have come off in my opinion. I am surprised we are playing this **** under Carver though. I would have thought he would sort out the absolute shocking passing and general play/ set pieces etc.
DJG(Quote)
dammit i cant keep up here 😳
So yous have given him the next 9 games 😯
and you think we will get 8 points.
wow.
I really cant see further than the next 3. I really cant.
Beardsleys Boots(Quote)
some seem happy to change our manager again with little suggestions for a replacement that could work with limited resources??
Isnt this the reason Pardew is in a pickle? because he hasnt been given the funds to maintain a winning formula? if-so, should we be calling for his head so soon?
any managers in mind who could replace him..?
mark(Quote)
aye G2. I really hope he surprises us all with some tactical master stroke or something 😯 😕
Beardsleys Boots(Quote)
Oi oi radgies!
Hoo man will ye’s aal leave Pards alone man! Proper doylems some of ye’s like! 😈
Here man! Di ye’s really think Pards doesn’t kna what the problem is like eh? 🙄
It’s my fault man! Not his! Am tekkin it on the chin! Nee ifs or buts! 😈
Am proper sick of this noo like! Am his mate so take it oot on me before him! Pards is like me brother these days man!
Pards gives me aal his old suits! Proper top notch clobba like! A went burgling the other neet in an Armani suit man! Divvent geddis wrang like! Burglars are proper scum normally but a make sure a look deed posh, so if someone wakes up and sees me in their hoose, they kna am well dressed and not wearing **** clothes and stinking.
Pure filth them like! Av had people wake up and see me wearing me suit and they just roll over cos they kna am a sofistikated burglar. 😎
That’s doon to Pards that like. If Pards leaves a might have to gan burgling in me suit doon Cheltenham or Shrewsbury or wherever he gets his next job man. 😐
Listen am off noo cos Pards has just turned up at wor gaff. Just for me lads, keep smokin tac and chill oot man! That’s the only thing aboot Pards! He nicks aal me tac!! 😈
Proper doylem that way like! 😕
Anyways. Laters gaters!
Toon ! Toon! 😛
Rotary Vests(Quote)
Mark – its not that people are calling for his head.
But this is a results business. We all can see he has been shafted by the board, again, but surely you arent advocating that we stick with him even to the point of relegation ❓
There has to be a point where enough is enough
Beardsleys Boots(Quote)
G2@129 – I actually think that 4 (four) points from those eight games is enough to avoid the sack, which is why I keep telling Troy that I agree with him. My belief that Pardew will do better is confidence in the man!
BB@130, 134 – I just can’t believe that we’ll get nothing from those games. So strongly do I hold this conviction that I simply cannot imagine what should be done in that situation. You might as well ask me, “If you were a cactus, what would your favourite colour be?”
Wellington(Quote)
Wellington@127 😆
I wasn’t suggesting you were, I haven’t followed everyone’s convos 😉
Newkie(Quote)
Sack Llambastad, give Pardew £15m and give him until the end of the season to stabilise us again. sensible and achievable without breaking the bank.
Shamrock(Quote)
🙄 😆
Beardsleys Boots(Quote)
I actually have sympathy for Pardew. What was he supposed to do with a squad so thin it makes Kate Moss positively obese!
Everyone will point to the injuries and suspensions but in fairness injuries happen all the time and we got lucky last season. Suspensions didn’t effect us last season and there’s obvious frustration within the squad that they did their job last season but have been woefully let down by the owner.
Don’t expect it to change either. Unfortunately I believe we’re a run of the mill football club with a good first team but a poor squad.
One good season really doesn’t make what Ashley is doing right – it means he was lucky.
Supporters have been brain washed into thinking not selling a good player is a great transfer window, instead of actually adding to the success of last season.
Why would HBA, Colo, Ba, Krul, Cabaye and Tiote going to want to stay here? They get no help from the club whatsoever.
The one thing that does get to me about Pardew is that I’m dissapointed he hasn’t spoke out about how ‘his players’ have been so badly let down by the club. Professional pride should take over.
Stuart79(Quote)
not as funny as previous Rotary Vests posts troy 😆
mark(Quote)
BB – We’re in a desperate rut. I get the feeling there’s poor morale in the camp and a few dissenting voices. Pards has the look of a man without answers.
I couldn’t see us getting anything from Southampton, and I can’t see where the next win is coming from. We can’t even come back from going a goal down or score from a set piece ffs. Our record is dreadful.
He is drinking in the last chance saloon. His c.v. before coming here is poor, and he appears to be suffering the same problems he had that meant he departed previous clubs. Even Adkins, when asked the other day, gave him no credit for any of Southampton’s recent success. 2.13 seasons is the average duration of all managers, an amazingly powerful fact. Add to that, survival is so massively important for the riches that await next season. It’s not looking good.
Blackley & Brownlie(Quote)
Rotary Vests@137 – 😯
OK, I’m convinced. In Pardew we trust!
Wellington(Quote)
OK wellington we’ll discuss this again after the fulham match and see whats wot.
Until then, keep smiling and always look on the bright side of life,
Beardsleys Boots(Quote)
@Beardsleys Boots
so if the next manager is shafted by Ashley an Co do we keep chopping?
my point is, Pards isnt to blame, well not entirely. The next manager will face exactly the same fate.
mark(Quote)
The tv pundits have consistently pointed to the quality of our squad. Pards himself stated he was very happy with it going into the season. That’s it then. Agreed. Its all carver’s fault. 🙄
Blackley & Brownlie(Quote)
@148, I agree. Llambastad is the main problem, remove him first and give Pardew a chance with signings of his choice minus the tight financial restraints (within reason). I still dont like the hoofball or bolox he comes out with in press conferences but hopefully he’ll change some of that sharpish. Just a couple of reults to keep us out of the relegation scrap until January and lets see what he can do with some fresh blood. If they dont spend in January then I give up.
Shamrock(Quote)