It is unfortunately that time of year again. Mince Pies and transfer speculation as Christmas lurks around the corner, followed by a new year and then a new transfer window.
These days I hardly pay any notice to transfer speculation which some of you longer term readers may have cottoned on to. I used to get excited about them and show interest with every new player we were linked with by writing an article or two on each of them. Now though I just can’t be arsed with them as, aside from maybe one or two exceptions, the transfer window tends to end in disappointment and anger.
So the point of this article then? Well I guess to get to the point we have to look at what Alan Pardew has been saying first and foremost.
“It is a difficult window, but I think we would like to get – definitely – one player in and not lose anybody. It could be that we lose a player, you never know,” Pardew told the Chronicle.
“Obviously I lost Andy Carroll in this window and in a situation that wasn’t too dissimilar to what I’m in now two years ago, maybe it was a bit better. But if that is the case then we need two players, and if we lose two then we need three.”
He added: “Myself, Mike and Derek all agree that we should have brought one more senior player in here. For whatever reason it didn’t happen. And we have learnt from that lesson, and that’s what comes from the luxury which is the security of the owner. The owner has great faith in my ability and I have to reward that with what I think when we make an error, and say we have made a mistake.”
Well first off I guess it’s nice to see that they agree with the vast majority of fans who also thought it was a mistake not to strengthen further in the summer. It doesn’t change anything now though…
What can change though is January, and the fairly staunch promise that our numbers will be swelled by one regardless. Will it happen? Won’t it happen? I don’t know but I could probably make an educated guess!
The strongest train of speculation seems to suggest a move for Loic Remy could be on the cards. He’d be a good signing no doubt providing he can settle, but if we are assuming he is the one player then is it enough?
There are areas of our team which need strengthening and up front is one of them, but it’s the defence that I believe we should be looking to add to. Quite frankly it’s been shocking and the players who play at the back who have shall we say, limitations, are causing a lot of our problems.
Like Danny Simpson and Mike Williamson for example. I’ve said many times that I don’t think they are as bad as some make out and if you look at just defending then they are, at the very worst, decent players to have in the squad.
However a lot of this “long ball” thingybob that everyone seems to have latched on to has a lot to do with them pair. They just aren’t comfortable on the ball so the only two options you get from them whilst they have possession is a hopeful kick up field or a pass back to Tim Krul who will do much the same.
Anyway I’m in danger of having a rantso I’ll end it here…
Is adding just one player going to be enough? Is adding an attacker rather than a defender the right thing to do?
I hope not Kimtoon but Ashley will be taking a huge risk if he only brings in 1 player in January. We have several players who can’t cut it (Willo, Simpson, increasingly Jonas, Shola, Obertan to name a few) in the Prem and clearly Ba is not happy looking at his latest statements to the press. As one of our genuine purples this has to be alarming for Ashley if he cares at all. So little creativity when Ben Arfa and Cabaye aren’t in the lineup and injury prone younger players like Saylor, Gosling, and Vuckic. Not a promising situation yet we continue to hear the same bollocks from Pardew.
GeordieTwo(Quote)
Sharpy
How far out wide would Cabaye and Anita be?
Dave
Maybe not be an exact quote but I was under the impression it was long those lines, or maybe I was just reading between the lines. Also Remy isn’t in the good books with Marseilles so they apparently want him out, with a player and cash switch with us, not entirely unplausible. What did you doubt about him coming, player being too good for us, cost of the transfer, wages he’ll demand?
Andymag(Quote)
G2@76, Agree ,we are in dire need of a bit more quality if we are to survive let alone push on.
KIMTOON(Quote)
Big Dave – re Debuchey. Money will decide in the end most like.
If the clubs can agree a fee, and make it clear he isn’t required at Lille, he will come.
But your right about NOT getting hopes up. That includes Remy too.
Beem there before.
Beardsleys Boots(Quote)
GEORDIETWO > Ba is not happy looking at his latest statements to the press.
I was just reading a story that Ba hadn’t got the clubs permission to do that Canal interview so could get a 2 weeks fine £90k
As for Jabba he’s a gambler and well used to taking risks
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GT
I thought we created a lot of chances against City without the likes of HBA and Cabaye in the team. The problem was we didnt put them away, were incredibly unlikey with a couple of shots (colo’s curler for one) and the rest were just offtarget from our strikers.
Andymag(Quote)
Andy ,from my point of view if we end up in the relegation zone ,we’ll be hard pushed to get anyone of quality in. Put it this way Lamearse and Pards would have to do one hell of a salesmans patter to sell us as a worthwhile punt.
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Andy @ 77 everything transfer fee, wages etc there is other big clubs sniffing round so im sure he’ll get offered a lot more money than we’ll offer.
Andy im not trying to knock you but I would be amazed if we get either Debuchy or Remy, I think there is more chance of us getting Carroll and I would rate that as no chance
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Well done Bootsy. Just ignore me when I ask a hard question.
You do go on some rants and say some ridiculous things at times. 😉
Troy Stavers(Quote)
Troy @ 57.
Its just the vindictive streak I have. Especially towards the fat bastad and his side kick. I put it in brackets for a reason.
I would like to see him suffer like we suffer, but not at the cost of our PL status. Obviously.
But like I said, we could finish 17th and I dont think he would break a sweat.
He clearly doesn’t deserve to own this football club. Would be far better suited to a wigan or west brom, who are happy just to be mid table each season.
I want more for our club than that fat **** is prepared to put in.
Does that help at all ❓
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Kim
The bottom line is that we can talk on this blog as much as we want on how the team can be played with these signings and that formations, with that player starting and that player leaving but Pardew has the teamsheet, not us, he picks the team/formation, not us. Llambias and Carr (sometimes Pards and Ashley will get involved) pick the signings and sell our players not us. It may sound like I’m being a **** but I’m just saying that it’s Pardew’s call to change the team, we have no influence in it.
Andymag(Quote)
Have you been waiting for me all that time.
how sad you are.
I always get back with an answer.
Beardsleys Boots(Quote)
Big Dave @80 if they fine Ba it will probably just make things worse between him and the club. I just don’t see us paying him enough to keep him. He knows he only has a few years left at the top at best so he wants a fair wage. With Llambias in there things can only get worse I believe.
Andymag @81 I agree mate.We played well in patches against Man City but at times our defending was terrible just as in many other games this season. Harry will have QPR up for our game and there could be nerves involved from us. A bad start would be a disaster as the crowd might turn. This game is the match of the season for us so far. How many of us would have thought that in August? Horrific play be us in quite a few games so far and no imagination or creativity from Pardew. We still lump the ball up the field towards Willo on set pieces. Unbelievabe as it has been a complete failure. Many other instances of poor game planning. Very worrying with a useless owner and MD.
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Dave
Aye personally thought it was press bollocks when I first heard it, “Newcastle are probably gunna lose a striker in Jan, they like the French market, who have we heard of that fits that bill?”. This story has picked up pace however and its being reported a fair bit, however could still just be press bollocks that has escalted
“Did you hear … is reporting that Newcastle are intersted in Remy?”
“A little of it”
“I think there is something in it, he’s in the French league and is a striker”
“Well it’s got something to it then”
that conversation times 8 other papers.
Andymag(Quote)
That should read horrific play by us. 😳
GeordieTwo(Quote)
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You have to question Pards statements at times. I think it was Buddy who quite rightly pointed out that he said shortly after the season started that he was aiming for a top 4 slot.
He then comes out, when we are almost in a relegation battle and says, we made a mistake we should have bought one more senior player in the summer.
Why don’t we hear reporters ask him hard questions?
Which one player would have had us competing for a top 4 side instead of looking at a relegation battle, Alan? 😉
Troy Stavers(Quote)
GT
As much as I hate hoofball I have to defend it when its a set piece from around the half-way line, most teams operate that way. Even with passing football you can expect that, thought we were better at it v City and had a fair few chances as a result of them, however it could just be that City have a very small team and we briefly exploited that.
Andymag(Quote)
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Bootsy
It’s an answer which I appreciate but you do make some statements that aren’t what you really mean. I criticise my bro, B&B for the same thing.
Be clear and say what you mean. 😉
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BB @85 I think you’re right for what it’s worth. Ashley doesn’t deserve to own the club. He did pull us out of a terrible financial situation but that was down to a few other greedy idiots running the club before him. Ashley apparently didn’t do due diligence (even he stated that) and so had a huge job sorting our finances out but then he got carried away with his own bargain bin brilliance. Anything that works in the bargain bin should work in football. That is his theory. Now he is possibly learning (I’m not clear on whether he can learn or not) that this philosophy won’t work in football. And hiring a tool as the MD won’t work either. Clearly Ashley is running out of time to convince people he can be a successful football owner by the standard definition, winning games and trophies.
GeordieTwo(Quote)
Why don’t we hear reporters ask him hard questions?
.
I’ve been saying this for months. Especially that knob at the ronnie gill.
The answer I got was he is too **** scared of being excluded from press conferences etc.
Basically he is a suck up to the regime.
Same goes for the BBC Newcastle crew, who get all the interviews they want, but NEVER ask the searching questions that real people want answers to.
The press up here have all gone soft 😳 😳
Beardsleys Boots(Quote)
Andy @ 89 😉 I just hate to see the younger ones getting their hopes up then having the stuffing knocked out of them 👿
Troy and BB and anyone else that cares to answer
Here’s a tough one would you’s accept relegation if it 100% meant that Jabba would sell up ❓ ❓ ❓
Big Dave(Quote)
Very good point @91 Troy. That gets right to the heart of the matter. Pardew clearly is saying that if we had brought in 1 more senior player we would be competing for top 4. Hilarious. The man is proving to be a complete clown. No wonder Ashley and Llambias like him and want him for 8 more years. All 3 definitely deserve each other but why don’t they just organize a mutual admiration society and leave Newcastle alone?
GeordieTwo(Quote)
Troy – Appologies for not being very eloquent or as literate as your good self.
Its alright tho, I know what I mean 😆
Beardsleys Boots(Quote)
Big Dave – thats a tough question alright.
there’s no guarantee of getting back up either.
If he cleared the clubs debts on the way out the door and left us with a clean slate, it would be tempting. VERY tempting.
Beardsleys Boots(Quote)
A horrible question Big Dave @96. I’ll chip in my answer mate. I would say no. I would not accept relegation to get rid of Ashley. But it twists my guts to say so. The supporters deserve better than Championship football and I’m just hoping Ashley will be frightened enough of losing the new TV contract money that he will spend in January. If we go down he would definitely have to stay to get his investment back so it won’t happen anyway. 😥
GeordieTwo(Quote)
G2 @ 100
so you think it unrealistic he would just cut his losses and sell if a decent offer came in ❓
If the unthinkable were to happen that is.
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Got to say, if Ba leaves I hope the other players don’t follow like sheep. 😯
I also hope that if Taylor leaves the others don’t follow suit. 😯
Cisse’s! The bloody lot! 😯
Krul jibe I know. 😯
Love red wine like.
Troy Stavers(Quote)
care to answer your own question Big Dave ❓
Beardsleys Boots(Quote)
Yeah it is a pretty hard one to answer unless we knew who the new owner would be etc, but to be honest if it was a decent owner that would love the club and not treat the supporters like ***** I would consider it, as I can’t see us going anywhere under this regime. the way I see it is that 1 yr of pain to be free from the regime mightn’t be a bad thing.
Big Dave(Quote)
Troy I like a drop of red wine 😉
Big Dave(Quote)
BB at 101 what would Ashley consider a reasonable offer? I think he has over 200M pounds invested in us. Would anyone pay that kind of money for a Championship team that has been torn apart by incompetent management? Remember Ashley already tried to sell us once and got very little in the way of real offers (to allow offers on the website was another hilarious move by him as I recall). This is an amazing state to be in at this stage of the regime. All the big talk and bragging by Llambias and Pardew have come down to this. We’re in 15th place in December and we have to win against QPR because we know we won’t win any of the next 2 or 3. You couldn’t make this stuff up.
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@Big Dave
I find it similar to the question, if we just survive relegation this season would you get rid of Pardew.
For me, I would get rid of Pardew tomorrow if I thought we could get a great manager. We won’t with Jabba at the helm.
The big problem at the moment is, The world is in a recession and I haven’t heard of any interested billionaires (which is what is needed to run a top premier club) sniffing round clubs.
My biggest gripe is, the now owners of Manc City were sniffing to buy us before we got snubbed because Jabba asked for £480m!! 😯
I’m afraid at this time, Jabba is the best of a bad job, just like I think Pardew is.
Troy Stavers(Quote)
Oh I came across this today 😀 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UCOC1YwNwZw
Big Dave(Quote)
If our current form continues Big Dave and Troy we’ll need a lot more than a drop of red wine. It’s really killing me to watch us this season. The disappointment is huge. The fact that the owner is staying quiet may actually bode well in January. He won’t get rid of Llambias but he may bring in a couple of decent players. If we lose Ba make it 3 needed. We have no choice but to wait and see.
GeordieTwo(Quote)
Troy @ 107 on Pards I would drive him out mesel but as you say I can’t see anyone decent on the horizon 👿
Big Dave(Quote)
GEORDIETWO the problem with the regime is we just go from one disaster to another it never fuking ends
Big Dave(Quote)
I think if the regime dont show some ambition and invest in a few more players in January, you will start to see season tkt renewals dropping off come march or whenever it is now.
Especially when household incomes are so stretched on other more pressing needs during this time of global austerity.
Why have a season tkt when you can quite easily buy a tkt on matchday and sit with your mates/family, Rather than next to some ******** who feels the need to Boo at every given oportunity. 👿
Beardsleys Boots(Quote)
Aye Big Dave @111. A disastrous regime. Pardew has to right this ship now or he will be out in the new year and who knows who would come next to try to work with Jabba and his fool? I’m hoping for a recovery in the new year with some fresh blood and returning players.
GeordieTwo(Quote)
Andy @86 ,Was you replying to something I said mate 😕 😕 Bit lost tbh as I was talking @82 about our ability to sell the club to a player not who does or don’t come in like or formations 😉 confused .By the way your not a **** ,everyone is entitled to an opinion that’s what the blog is for.
KIMTOON(Quote)
Good points BB @112. That is part of what Ashley should be worried about. It just doesn’t make sense to not invest in players with the huge TV money and a wonderful group of supporters. The man must be truly mad if he blows it.
GeordieTwo(Quote)
Away to get my daughter soon. A pleasure as always lads and lasses.
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@BD
I’m all for giving people opportunities if they have deserved it.
To be fair, Pardew and the regime blew me out the water last season!
I’m sure you and everyone else think the same.
So to be realistic, none of us can honestly say we saw the plight of this season so far.
So, I will give the regime and Pardew this window
to prove themselves. For me, they deserve that time.
My thoughts are, as I always thought, the regime will produce nothing but mediocrity with their current policies.
Should we stay up and take in £60m+ for TV rights then that’s another step that Ashley needs to climb.
I’m certainly not confident. This season is what I expected last season. So because they proved me wrong, I will give them a chance. This window is crucial for me!
Troy Stavers(Quote)
Moussa Sissoko, Remy and Debuchy with Demba Ba going out? Ah, to dream.
Free Scoring Smudge(Quote)
Maybe bring back Alan Smith? With Tiote out for the ACON we’ll need some steel in midfield . . .
Free Scoring Smudge(Quote)
Reet im wrecked thats me outta here catch you’s tomorrow sometime 😉
Big Dave(Quote)
yes remy is a good player but worry is they say he hasnt played much this season and is not match fit because he has a on and off hip problem,we need someone to hit the ground running imo 😕
icedog(Quote)
as @33
icedog(Quote)
Troy @ 117 I think we’ll be on here as usual saying the usual things on the night the window closes.
But maybe they’ll surprise us this time around 😯
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@BD
I’ve no doubt. 😉
I don’t believe we will outlay more than £10m.
But, my honest thoughts are, we will turn the corner with our performances and end up mid table/ish.
For me, as I said at the start of the season, anything other than Europa qualification next season is failure.
We needed to buy when in a position of strength.
We didn’t.
Troy Stavers(Quote)
icedog I think its a thigh problem.
would go a long way to explain our interest unfortunately
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Did I actually say that I thought we wouldn’t outlay more than £10m in January. ? Wow! This red wine is good!
I will be realistic. No more than £5m!
Troy Stavers(Quote)
Troy dont you think we qualified for europa too soon when we did and are now paying for it.
I dont think it was in the plan, as it required further investment in the squad, which jabba wasn’t prepared to do.
The original plan was for top 10 last season and top 8 this season.
Last seasons over achievement put a spanner in the works it would seem, and as ever there was no plan B from the regime 😳 😳
Beardsleys Boots(Quote)
BB lol aye your reet,got to wonder why the club would would let a player of his standing leave 😐
icedog(Quote)
especially to NUFC of all clubs.
Didn’t we **** them off previously with Benny or someone?
another club taking the **** out of jabba, who cant see the wood for the trees.
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Wow Bootsy! I agree with you! 😉
Troy Stavers(Quote)
Wow it’s doom and gloom on here 🙂 🙂 All the talk about how **** MA and DL are and the complaints about our lack of signings is funny. There is no mention of the great players we have picked up under their stewardship. No let’s not mention any of that, forget about it and just focus on what they haven’t done. We do have a good team at the moment, we have injuries and we are down on form. We can turn it around… one last thought – So if we get a new CB in and we continue to play poorly, what will be the next thing we are unhappy about..?
Aussie Magpie Fan(Quote)
Aussie – its ok having all the tools, but if you dont know how to use them properly, then there’s not much point.
How will you feel if we sign another striker, but dont strengthen the defense AGAIN.
for every so called great players we have picked up, we have picked up just as many poor ones. But lets just all clap hands and worship the regime that saved us from impending doom
Beardsleys Boots(Quote)
BB – to simply answer your question, no matter how many players we get, it will never be enough. Do I think we need a CB? Yes I do but I won’t hang my hat on the fact that it will cure all of our ills. 😕
I am not saying that we should pat the regime on the back at all….. All I am saying is that in their defence they have picked up some quality players but they seem to get no credit for this… just stick for all they players they haven’t bought.
Question; If we get a new CB and possibly a striker in January are we guaranteed to play better football and win more games?
Aussie Magpie Fan(Quote)
One player? I’d go for about 4 – one of them being Lescott (on loan?) and another being Debuchy.
Oz, I’d have thought you’d be used the Newcastle mentality by now: everything is black and white; there is no middle ground. When things are bad rationality is too grey an area to be in 😆
brisvegas(Quote)
Vegas 😆 Yeah I know mate… It’s just human nature to always want more than what we have. 😉
Aussie Magpie Fan(Quote)
Liverpool look like splashing the cash again, and also seem to be chasing an old name from the past….. money seems to be no object with some clubs. I don’t want a massive cash injection, just sensible spending to strngthen areas of the team which have been weak for a while now. If our lot don’t get it right in the January window, regarding incomings and outgoings, then we’ll pay the ultimate price of relegation…..
“Liverpool will try to secure Kevin Gameiro on an initial six-month loan from Paris St-Germain should the deal collapse.
Brendan Rodgers has spoken to other Premier League managers who have worked with Sturridge and is hopeful the former Manchester City youth player will sign. Gameiro, however, has emerged as an alternative. The 25-year-old has made eight appearances for France but has found his opportunities limited at PSG since the arrival of Zlatan Ibrahimovic. Everton are also interested in the PSG striker.”…
There again it might be paper talk…
Munich Mag(Quote)
Morning Eminem 😉 I have heard Liverpool are after Ince as well mate… I wonder if it will be funded with the money from the sale of Carroll?
Aussie Magpie Fan(Quote)
We need Axel to give us the down low on this Dutch Ajax guy we’re ‘interested in’, 3.5m seems very low considering the amount of goals the report says he’s scored.
Andymag(Quote)
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2250813/Alan-Pardew-planning-3-5m-bid-Ajax-midfielder-Jody-Lukoki.html
Woops misread it first time 3 goals in 14 games it is. Lad can play CAM, on the wings and as a striker.
Andymag(Quote)
Feel free to ignore the report as its the Daily Fail that’s reporting it.
Andymag(Quote)
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@Aussie
But do you really expect people to be satisfied and praise them when we could end up in a relegation battle?
People are obviously angry because most could see the strengthening of the squad was necessary in the Summer.
What do you think of Pardew stating at the start of the season that he was aiming for a top 4 place and now, when we are plummeting and can’t get a win for love nor money, the 3 stooges admit they should have bought one extra senior player.
1 player!! Does Pards really believe 1 senior player could have us gunning for 4th spot.
They deserve praise for last season but equally, fans are entitled to criticise for them blowing it this season.
It’s about dealing with what’s in front of you as it develops.
Troy Stavers(Quote)
Morning gang – aye the TransferTalk makes for ‘interesting’ reading this morning like.
Andy – I saw that one for the Ajax, know nowt about him but if he’s came through the Ajax system I reckon he’s got to be worth a look like.
Other stand out ones, firstly from the Star – Andy Carroll wants to come back to the Toon – boring!!
Also – West Spam looking to bid £2m for Puncheon – I still think at that money WE should be taking him like.
The other one is WBA wanting £1.5m for Chris Woods – again I don’t think we can loose for that money!, the kids is 21yrs old and banging the goals in at Milwall. Even if he got a 5yr contract and it didn’t work out, we’d still get our money back selling a 26yr old.
But for as little as £3.5m those 2 would improve our attacking options IMO
Sharpy17(Quote)
Troy,
In answer to your question – no.
All I am saying is that getting in a CB or a striker is not the answer to our current problems and that the board has brought in some quality players. The way people are talking on here is that we are playing bad because we didn’t get a CB in the off season. It may well have made a heap of difference but it may not have made any at all.. Yes we do need a CB and I was really disappointed we didn’t get one but to say it is the reason for where we are at form and point wise, is off the mark.
There has to be a little balance on here………
Aussie Magpie Fan(Quote)
MM – looking at the players Lpool are going for, it just shows how stupid that club is!.
Daniel Sturridge for £12m – you’d have to ask yourself why Chelsea – one of their competitors would allow him to leave when they have a ‘striker crisis’ of they own. Particularly when he is still a young player.
Tom Ince – not so ridiculous as Sturridge, but when you consider Lpool actually had Ince on their books before letting him leave for next to nowt and now they’re gonna pay a considerable sum to get him back – fools!.
That said, if we hijacked the Ince deal, I wouldn’t be gutted like.
Sharpy17(Quote)
dog @121
that’s ashley’s way of doing business – he’d rather buy something on the cheap that doesn’t work properly than pay the full price for something that does.
roy cropper(Quote)
Aussie you’re right there is a lot of slagging the Regime on here but as Troy and others have said they got credit for last year, and for what good they have done. But when we start hoovering around the relegation zone then they deserve stick , and yeah it could do with balance but then you back them up enough to balance it up 😆 and are positive enough to balance the negativity 😀
Big Dave(Quote)
Aussie – I don’t see that mate. I think if asked, most would acknowledge that the players the club have brought in have (in the main) been quality signings. I think people’s main gripe is that they simply haven’t brought enough quality players in. But to be fair, Pardew himself has admitted they made mistakes in the summer window, so I think fans complaints are fully justified based on that.
I think the other annoyance is hearing things like ‘purple players’!. Whilst I accept there has to be a financial line drawn, I also think that if the team or a specific position needs strengthening then it shouldn’t be a case of “well we already have 8 purple player” – if there is money there.
I think fans just want the club to show a bit of ambition and honesty. When Dekka starts the summer window flying to Holland with a view of spending £10-12m on LDJ and however much on Douglas and however much on Debuchy – but then finishes the window with a net spend of around £4m and only really getting Anita in, then again – not good enough.
I don’t think fans have unrealistic expectations, and I don’t think many believe one CB is the answer to our problems. We needed around 4-5 players in in the summer. That could have been achieved through free transfers or less expensive options. The board have done well in past windows but should be judged on the most recent, and based on that deserve the criticism.
Sharpy17(Quote)
Sharpy well said but Aussie is just a positive guy that likes to wildly clap the Regime, he is a happy clappy chappy 😉
Big Dave(Quote)
ROY C @ 145 aye your reet mate,thats the problem theres something in what you say 🙁
icedog(Quote)
This statement just reeks of excuse making already. Basically setting us up for disappointment.
Every time Pardew has opening his mouth lately I get riled up because he just pisses me off.
We DEFINITELY NEED a centre back, a wide forward player and a centre back.
To say we definitely need ONE is a fecking joke. Rapidly losing faith in this man.
JJ(Quote)