A meeting was believed to have been held yesterday with lawyers representing both parties present, but it would appear that the meeting ended with no resolution and further talks are scheduled for today.
Colo, apparently anyway, wants to return to Argentina to play for San Lorenzo, a team he supposedly supports and a club which his Father works currently. San Lorenzo also want to sign the player, but the issue is that Colo is under contract with us having signed a new deal last year, and San Lorenzo can’t afford to pay market value for him and basically want Newcastle to let him go for free.
All this has been muddied by rumours of personal problems which remain just that for now with, and rightly so, no confirmation on the rumours from either party. However, the words of Colo’s Father make me wonder what would happen if we just turned round and said no?
“There was an inconclusive meeting today,” Coloccini Snr told Rock and Closs on Monday. “Tomorrow (Tuesday) there will be a decision. We both desire the transfer.
“Fabricio is very anxious. He wants a decision to be made one way or another. I believe this is the moment to move. Newcastle have asked him to wait until May. The issue is if San Lorenzo will wait until that date.”
“It would be beautiful if both of us were at San Lorenzo, the club we love. Fabricio is eager to return but he wants to do so in an elegant way.”
The “he wants a decision made one way or another” part doesn’t exactly paint a picture of someone who is dead set on a move does it? Get him to stay until the summer and reassess the situation then! Also I dare say the part about Colo wanting to renege on his contract in an “elegant way” is lost a bit in translation. I’d guess amicable would have been a better word to use.
I don’t know what is going to happen with this one to be honest. I’m of the opinion that if he wants away then we must get a transfer fee for him as, whatever you think of the board, the manager, the club, right now, we aren’t a charity.
On the other hand, if his heart is set on San Lorenzo, as it is according to his Dad, then do we keep an unhappy player?
I guess we’ll see what happens soon enough.
Chris G @63 Thanks for digging that out, that’s exactly what I was trying to remember, clearly badly!! So his dad has previous form for encouraging unconventional transfer moves when it comes to Colo
Geordie Deb(Quote)
@le10sport: EXCLU – Gouffran file à Newcastle http://t.co/eRurwFRn
Think this says we have agreed a fee of €2.5 million for Gouffran
3hourswasted(Quote)
Stuart79 @ 128 🙂
Lionel Speed(Quote)
Read somewhere on sunday that Ashley was taking personal control of negotiations for all potential transfers. Wonder if he has got as pissed off with Dekka and Charnley messing about as we have. Don’t know if it’s true but interesting that all of a sudden transfers hopefuly being concluded at a reasonable pace. Also probably has nothing to do with the fright he must have had Saturday afternoon at SJP when reality of relegation probably slapped him in the gob 😆
Geordie Deb(Quote)
DEB@ 154 , I think you got the measure of it in your last sentence 😆
KIMTOON(Quote)
SSN now reporting fee agreed for Gouffron
3hourswasted(Quote)
@GraemeBailey: Newcastle agree fee for Yoan Gouffran with Bordeaux – could very well be one of four French arrivals at St James’ this week.
3hourswasted(Quote)
I thought they said we was close to agreeing not agreed 😕
KIMTOON(Quote)
Beg your pardon it’s on the yellow band SSN fee agreed.
KIMTOON(Quote)
Can’t help but thinking that while this is good news if we agree a few of these details, they are not really replacing the players we’ve lost/losing.
Mbiwa is clearly a great prospect but it’s HIGHLY unlikely that he can come in and immediately replace Colo. Sissoko will be a good addition but doesn’t help us if he arrives in the summer. Gouffran may well be great but is he really replacing Ba who assured the team 15+ goals a season?
SJP14(Quote)
sissoko is only coming in the summer though which is a shame..
craig chisholm(Quote)
Furthermore again Ashley is taking 7.5 million pounds for a striker and spending 750,000 pounds on attacking winger who can play centrally. Where’s the other 6.75m going?
SJP14(Quote)
Not sure about the Sissoko deal. Their Pres has withdrawn him from squad and more or less told him to **** off. £3m should get him now.
Praying nothing goes wrong with M’biwa – he’s the best.
On this Bordeaux guy – I must have watched him twice against us and not noticed him. Doesn’t bode well and he’s certainly no replacement for Ba.
georgio(Quote)
SJP14@160 ,Don’t know if this will cheer you up but Yoan Gouffran has scored 14 so far his season.
KIMTOON(Quote)
Georgio he never played against us as far as I am aware
3hourswasted(Quote)
@164 albeit not in the PL
KIMTOON(Quote)
sjp14… cheer up man…. anyone on here will tell you that i hate ashley more than most but even i cant be pissed off with the fact that we are getting in some quality players. I would have loved to have seen sissoko in now and not once we get to the summer as we need someone to bounce off cabs and i also want to see colo sorted out so that he comes out and stays till the summer if nothing else as this will give the newbies a smoother transition. But all that aside, signings coming into our club under that fat **** head are so rare we all need to smile today. make no mistake, there is only one reason he has done this this.. its called 3 billion premier tv money and it starts next season.
craig chisholm(Quote)
SJP14-I don’t see Siss only signing a pre contract for the summer now, that sounds daft to me. Gouffran isn’t so much replacing Ba as he is complimenting Marv/Benny whilst perhaps covering for Cisse when injured. Could still backfire massively, but I guess the idea is to keep Cisse alone up top because clearly he can’t deal with competition…
As for Mbiwa, lets hope he is here to play alongside Colo…not massively confident but there we go.
Newkie(Quote)
3hrs. Great! How about this – Sissoko has been removed from the 18-man squad for Toulouse’s trip to Paris Saint-Germain in the French Cup on Wednesday night.
Sources close to ESPN understand the 23-year-old will undergo a medical with the Magpies on Wednesday ahead of signing his Magpies deal on Thursday.
Read more at http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story/_/id/1308692/newcastle-edge-closer-sissoko?cc=5739#0ObsSIGuv0qiBQvM.99
georgio(Quote)
Should have been done in the summer but these players are Internationals and will vastly improve the team. So far we have signed Debuchy and look like adding Mbiwa, Haidara, Gouffran, and a pre season deal for Sissoko. Ok we lost Ba and might lose Colo but at least the club are bringing in some real quality. I think there may be more to come on top of that lot? The club only got about £4 million of the Ba fee with the rest going to agents @SJP14
3hourswasted(Quote)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/yoan_gouffran
KIMTOON(Quote)
good point georgio…. why withdraw sissoko from squad now if he aint coming for another 6 months or whatever.
craig chisholm(Quote)
Wiki doesn’t wanna know .stupid link 😆
KIMTOON(Quote)
@Kim that’s the big question. I’m not saying it’s impossible and obviously he has talent it just seems like a gamble to me. I’m glad he’s been doing well this season and I think he would be a good addition. I just think we might need to add another attacking player in case he takes time to adjust.
SJP14(Quote)
Georgio I think it is possible we might get Sissoko this window but apparently his club are hiking the fee up . Hope they manage to get him this window but it depends on what they want for him with just 6 months left on his contract.
3hourswasted(Quote)
Craig apparently Sissoko has fallen out with their President and French journos saying that is why he is out of the squad. The President is also hiking the price up. Very strange but we will soon see.
3hourswasted(Quote)
As #nufc move towards an all-French team, worth remembering Pardew’s 2006 attack on Arsenal: http://bbc.in/OYdDt7 (via @LaurensJulien)
😆 😆
AngelOfDeath(Quote)
I think I’m just in a skeptical mood right now after the Remy deal, the weekend’s defeat and the cold bloody weather.
I am glad we are getting new faces in and that will get a lift to the club. I’m just questioning whether we are doing enough to add depth to the squad.
Personally if Colo stays, Sissoko comes and we get another striker in that would be a very good window.
As for the money I stand corrected 3hrs.
SJP14(Quote)
AOD@177, 😆 😳 Someone should send him a tweet or email with a link to that like.
KIMTOON(Quote)
i think with our relegation situation we may well go all out get sissoko now as we need another cabayew type player so desperatley… lets go with one up front and one in the hole.. it will work better for us i think.
craig chisholm(Quote)
@lee_ryder: Mapou Yanga-Mbiwa, Mathieu Debuchy and Yohan Cabaye all owners of Ligue 1 champions medals. Can’t do #nufc to have such winners on board.
3hourswasted(Quote)
@NUFCThreatLevel: “Operation Egodrop” where we planted Joey Barton in France and captured all the fleeing footballers is proving to be a great success. #NUFC
3hourswasted(Quote)
3hours ,That’s a good point with the calibre of some of our players now it would be scandalous to not give it a hell of a go at staying up. There would have to be something very wrong at the club to fail now ,no excuses now imo if thisw lot arrive.
KIMTOON(Quote)
3hours @182 😆 😈 bless Joey ,he has his uses. 😆
KIMTOON(Quote)
Very busy day for the club by the look of it. The team will have a very different look it they all come through. Is it not time to have a coach or 2 who speak French? Why entirely French incoming? Do we not spend time scouting in the rest of Europe? Just wondering what the effect of having at least 7 or 8 French speaking players in the team will have on the squad if any? I like some of the movement but not sure about Haidara. Would have preferred to focus on Sissokho. Will this unsettle Santon? He has looked poor defensively but Jonas has fallen apart and offers no cover for him when he goes forward. Too many changes might be almost as bad as too few but I think we have to do it now. Such poor planning by the owner to leave everything hanging last summer. What will Pardew’s excuse be if we continue to lose? My guess would be “we haven’t had time to bed all these players in.”
GeordieTwo(Quote)
G2 time for your happy pill mate 😆
3hourswasted(Quote)
geordietwo… with 13 losses out of the last 16 games i cant see this having any worse an effect.. its actually impossible. it can only get better. we are rock bottom and going out.. at least this gives us a chance.
craig chisholm(Quote)
and besides.. unlike is ignorant brits.. most french speak very good english.
craig chisholm(Quote)
Looks like BBC s Mick Lowes was right when he said the club were after 4 or 5 players a few days ago.
3hourswasted(Quote)
So if Haidara and Mbiwa arrive and Colo goes what about this for the game against Villa
Krul
Debuchy Taylor Mbiwa Haidara
Anita Cabaye
Obertan Marveaux Santon
Cisse
Just think that Santon might offer more going forward than Jonas and also would cover Haidara. Obertan meanwhile has more pace than Shola.
SJP14(Quote)
Some good points there 3HW and CC. I’m actually pleased the owner is being proactive for a change 3HW don’t worry about me mate. Craig aye it had to be done. I hope we do some clearing out in the summer as well. Sell Willo and Perch to Championship sides. Get rid of Ranger any way we can. Xisco’s contract finally expires thank God. Whatever happened with him it’s far too late to change any of it now. Re-assess Gosling. Will he ever recover from all the injuries and lost playing time? I doubt it. Probably move Obertan on as well. We may be stuck with Jonas unless we can sell him on the cheap. Not sure what will happen with Tiote especially if Sissokho does come in.
GeordieTwo(Quote)
I wonder what Remy will be thinking if we bring in all these players 😆
Probably happy counting his money though eh?
3hourswasted(Quote)
So has anyone signed or still waitin on offical word?
Johno Toon(Quote)
I doubt they would throw Haidara in right away SJP14. He will need some time at his age. I wouldn’t try moving Santon to the wing for such an important game. Pardew is a conservative type so I would think:
Krul
Debuchy Taylor Mbiwa Santon
Anita Jonas
Obertan Cabaye Marveaux
Cisse
GeordieTwo(Quote)
A lot will depend on what happens with Colo of course. I have my doubts we will see him in the team again. I wish him well. He played hard for us for several seasons. The personal problems are a separate issue and it’s not for us to judge.
GeordieTwo(Quote)
This is worth a look/read
@MirrorFootball: Can Yanga-M’Biwa, Gouffran and Haidara save Newcastle? Our Ligue 1 man @AGibneyftbl assesses all three http://t.co/wj03KWiC
3hourswasted(Quote)
SJP14
Think Gouffran would be a better option than Obertan, though tbh I don’t know much about him.
Andymag(Quote)
3HW, Thats a nice link for data on each individual player, however he doesn’t actually answer the question in the articles title.. Lazy?
Anyway does anyone else think that we’re not getting any announcements from the club as they’ll unvail 3/4 new players at the same time as we say goodbye to Colo?
Rinton man(Quote)
Yes good read, thanks for the link 3HW. Surely Gouffran wouldn’t be the replacement for Ba? I wouldn’t think so. They will hope he can replace Obertan on the wing and try for another striker surely.
GeordieTwo(Quote)
George Caulkin of The Times is reporting Sissko is close to signing on a pre contract. Be a good summer addidition but we could of done with him now.
Johno Toon(Quote)
We will still have a weak bench but we should be able to field a very good first 11 once Ben Arfa returns. Just worried about Cisse up front. Where has his touch gone? Maybe it’s vacationing in the south of France. Remy would have been just the ticket as we have already seen but we let that one slip away. Here’s hoping Gouffran comes good if we do get him.
GeordieTwo(Quote)
Craig @180,I agree ,if we drop he defo won’t wanna come here 😉
KIMTOON(Quote)
@CaulkinTheTimes: Yanga-Mbiwa should be done by #Nufc tonight &, all being well, Gouffran & Haidara tomorrow. Nearing pre-contract agreement with Sissoko.
3hourswasted(Quote)
@CaulkinTheTimes: Still possible Sissoko could join this month if Toulouse play ball if and when that agreement is formalised. #Nufc
3hourswasted(Quote)
Good write up on our targets here:
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/newcastle-targets-mapou-yanga-mbiwa-yoan-1549611?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter
Also hearing rumors of a bid for Ricky Van Wolfswinkel (what a name by the way!). He’d be an excellent replacement for Ba. Reports Sporting want 12mil Euros. Seems a decent price to me.
rossco(Quote)
We could have pretty much a full french speaking team:
Krul
Debuchy Mbiwa Colo Haidara
Sissoko
Cabaye Marveaux
Ben Arfa Cisse Gouffran
French Bench:
Amf
Obertan
Abeid
Moyo
That’s 13 french speaking players if these deals go through.
And only 11 with English as their 1st language. That’s even counting Ranger and Tav.
Allez les bleus!
rossco(Quote)
So still no news on Colo then ❓
Still not signed anyone yet.
you would think we were hanging on in the hope of another club coming in with better offers 😳
Beardsleys Boots(Quote)
http://www.nufc.co.uk/articles/20130122/acon-tiote-and-co-snatch-victory_2281670_3049997
Tiote got a win. 😛
I hope he comes back a better player.
Fitter, stronger, meaner. 😆
Beardsleys Boots(Quote)
BB
Came off the bench and made a crucial block. Maybe we should play him as a super sub, know how Pards likes to bring on DMs at the end of games. 😕
Andymag(Quote)
We need two quality strikers, and a whole new back four. Santon looks suspect at right back, and I wonder if he would be better in the middle.
Blackley & Brownlie(Quote)
Left back@210 😛 😛
Blackley & Brownlie(Quote)
Not particularly happy after the weekend, and while making the signings is good, I won’t feel that things have turned around until seeing it on the pitch.
We could do with a French-speaking manager next season.
Wellington(Quote)
Wow Wellington, the ever optimist got out the wrong side of bed 2day.
cheer up m8, its what everyone has been calling for…
mark(Quote)
I think the signing has less effect on me because I expected the club to get someone. 😉
Wellington(Quote)
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2013/jan/22/newcastle-united-mapou-yanga-mbiwa
TOON TOON. cud still qualify for Europe here like 😆
mark(Quote)
aye, but u thought it was Remy, which I was pessimistic about 😉
mark(Quote)
Any chance Gouffran signing could mean we try Obertan upfront finally?
funkyjesus(Quote)
I’d rather try Obertan Left-back… on the coach.. 🙄
mark(Quote)
Gouffran has confirmed on his twitter he’s joining the Toon!
Don’t know how good he is like but not sure he’s a good Ba replacement…
Stuart79(Quote)
I would use Obertan as a sub up front.
However Pards will use Shola – he has not seen the obvious that when Shola is on the pitch we are playing with ten men.
sidekick(Quote)
Well still no word yet on Colo ?? but then they probably don’t want to announce that until they have Mbiwa signed up
Big Dave(Quote)
Dave@221 ,that’ll be right 🙄
KIMTOON(Quote)
Used to believe no news was good news ,but with this situation think it might be the opposite.
KIMTOON(Quote)
Yoan Gouffran has tweeted “tommorow I am a Newcastle player and Iam proud .Thanks to everyone hugs and kisses”. 😆 Do the french sign off hugs and kisses 😕
KIMTOON(Quote)
Mbia confirmed. 5 n half year deal. will wear no 13. Get in
Johno Toon(Quote)