I’m feeling…. Glad it’s over! Newcastle 0-1 Arsenal

No farewell victory for Harps
No farewell victory for Harps
Well I don’t think I’ve actually been as glad to see the end of a football season as what I am right now.

Even after relegation I had an urge to look forward to what awaited us in the Championship, but right now I can’t even bear thinking about next term.

Many things need to change, whether it be in terms of managerial personnel, playing staff, or the way they work together and the form they collectively create. Whatever ‘it’ is ‘it’ needs to change or else we’re just going to waste next season as well. Bowing out with a whimper after recent home troubles against Champions League qualifying Arsenal hasn’t helped matters much either.

Don’t get me wrong, there isn’t exactly much shame in that these days and Arsenal away from home aren’t the softies they used to be. There is a reason why they have the best away defensive record in the league, but the truth is that particular record was rarely under threat aside from a few half-chances sporadically placed throughout the match.

I don’t even think we played that badly and even thought that Laurent Koscielny’s 52nd minute winner was a tad fortunate on a number of levels, but it was our lack of intent that annoyed me the most. Granted we had literally nothing to play for as any relegation concerns had been allayed by ourselves last weekend, but after two home defeats on the spin I’d have liked us to avoid a third one, as obvious as that seems.

Alas it wasn’t to be and now we’ll undoubtedly be confronted with a summer rife with rumours of one form or another. What fun that will be.

I’m trying to think of positives from this season and I’m struggling. At a push we finished above Sunderland and the second coming of Jesus, or Paulo Di Canio as he is perhaps more commonly known, but that is a minor consolation considering that same team beat us 3-0 on our own pitch just a few weeks ago. The Chelsea game perhaps? Reaching the Europa League Quarter Final?

I’m sorry that this isn’t much a match review, but there wasn’t an awful lot to write about really so I’ve gone on a rant about our season instead. For that I do apologise and I hope I don’t end up doing the same next season!

Howay the lads!

Newcastle: Steve Harper; Mathieu Debuchy, Fabricio Coloccini, Steven Taylor, Mapou Yanga-M’Biwa; Yohan Cabaye, Cheik Tiote; Jonas Gutierrez, Hatem Ben Arfa, Yoan Gouffran; Papiss Cisse

Subs: Jak Alnwick, Danny Simpson, James Perch, Vurnon Anita, Gabriel Obertan, Sylvain Marveaux, Adam Campbell

Arsenal: Wojciech Szczesny, Bacary Sagna, Per Mertesacker, Laurent Koscielny, Kieran Gibbs, Tomas Rosicky, Mikel Arteta, Aaron Ramsey, Theo Walcott, Santi Cazorla, Lukas Podolski

Subs: Lukasz Fabianski, Thomas Vermaelen, Monreal, Gervinho, Jack Wilshere, Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain, Olivier Giroud

Attendance: 52,354

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509 thoughts on “I’m feeling…. Glad it’s over! Newcastle 0-1 Arsenal

  1. @JJ

    It looks like Ashley disagrees with most, so what’s your opinion of him as an owner?


  2. alan your record for us fickle fans

    Newcastle United under Pardew this season
    1- most goals conceded in a PL season
    2- Biggest Home Defeat
    3- Biggest Home Derby defeat
    4- Defeat against Arsenal means most losses ever in a PL season
    5- worst run of form over a 10 game period ever


  3. Mark,
    That is what I’ve found hilarious mate. Brisvegas accuses everyone that makes a comment of being an armchair manager.
    Yet the most blatant Football Manager addict, who even uses terminology verbatim from Football Manager on this blog is Wellington.
    Who he agrees with πŸ˜†


  4. Its great being romantic and thinking we should sack Pards for a top manager like Rudi Garcia.

    I’m sure 99% of us want that however the rationality of it is, we couldn’t unless Ashley changes his spending policy and ups the managers wages considerably.

    Besides, Garcia has made it known he wants to manage in Spain.

    Why not come to the North East of England and be one of the lowest paid managers in the premier league instead of Seville or Valencia.

    I’ll just put my sunglasses on and have a think about this. 😎


  5. Troy,
    I don’t think Ashley has shown any ambition for the club. I think he is only using the club as an advertising tool for Sports Direct to grow the brand and whether he gets that publicity through negative news or positive news it is all business to him.

    I don’t think he has an affectionate bone in his body towards the club or its supporters.

    I also think he has some sort of payment deal in place with Pardew.

    However, because he is so good in business. A lot of what he has done has actually been good. The players (assets) are decent, the finances are good.

    I just wish he would realise that to get the most our of his assets (both in terms of performance and value) he needs a quality mananger!
    As you say. That is the most important part!

    But its like have a Porche with a lawn mower engine at the moment! Simply to cut costs on fuel.

    Its flashy, it gets attention and publicity, which is all he is after. But at the end of the day. Its just a fancy unfunctional lawn mower and you can only fool people for so long….


  6. Troy,
    IN short,
    If we are going to stuck with mediocrity, then at least lets play some entertaining football.
    I know its sounds bad. But I’d rather see us lose 5-4 than 1-0. If we are going to finish between 9th and 16th each season. I’d rather we did it playing football that I can enjoy!
    It it after all supposed to be about entertainment at the end of the day! And I am NOT being entertained!


  7. @JJ

    But that is exactly the point I’ve been making for months. It appears Ashley is doing exactly what we said he would do. Take the cheap option.

    Ive been criticised for second guessing Ashley. Well, those that have second guessed him have been right so far.

    We can all look at the situation thru rose tinted glasses but as I used to say, the coffee needs smelling.

    He won’t sack Pards cos he is happy to finish mid table and he will take in the cash. He doesn’t want a huge squad. It costs him a fortune in wages.

    We currently stand at 67% ratio for wages with a threadbare squad.

    I would love Rafa. What a perfect time to pounce. It won’t happen. Garcia won’t happen.


  8. Troy @456
    Because at a million pounds a year. A lowish paid manager in the Premier League is still going to earn more than managing a midtable side in Spain or a top four side in France.

    Also, you keep bringing up the payment. But I actually think Pardew earns what he is worth! If not more than he is worth…

    We don’t pay Williamson the same as Colo? Why? Because Colo is better.

    So why would Ashley pay Garcia the same as Pardew? Surely he might splash out a bit more.

    Regardless. I’d rather take a sideways step in terms of ability and get someone who will at least play more attractive football.

    Haven’t had that since Sir Bobby, or KK’s last spell.


  9. @JJ

    Go for Martinez and in 2 yrs we will people clambering for his sacking cos his defence is ****.

    People will then be looking at defensive managers and saying, its better than attacking all the time and giving away more goals than we score.

    KK got hounded in the end in his first stint. Seen it all before and I’ll see it again.


  10. Wellington-Yeah, I know Ash gave us good terms on the lending, it’s his club now and unfortunately he will do as he pleases, I’m just sad he doesn’t seem to have much ambition for it. IMO he wants the money back and then we might be a play thing, or he might sell us if the opportunity ever arises. He will never be loved here, pretty sure that was what he wanted when he arrived..


  11. Seems to me that Welly’s has done all the player and manager analysis,
    yet come to the completely wrong conclusion. 😯 😯
    I think it’s a lot more simple.
    Pardew is failing this club with his negative, defensive style of crapball.
    We have some good continental players, with high levels of skill, that don’t have a clue what he wants them to do.
    He abjectly failed in his 1st European excursion, playing weakened sides, then blaming Europe for his crap performances in the league.
    From my seat in the Gallowgate, I can not for the life of me SEE a plan of attack on the field. What I see is a disjointed team, with little or no cohesion, getting in each others way and basically ‘winging’ it, in the HOPE Cisse or HBA, or anyone can score a goal out of nothing.
    The build up play is terrible, we cant catch a team on the break, because there is no plan in place. Nobody seems to know where they should be, or where anyone else should be.
    Its shocking. πŸ‘Ώ
    We cant pass the ball properly to each other, there is no movement off the ball. Nobody can read or predict Cisse’s runs, so he looks ****.
    Its a total gang ****, the whole lot of it.
    You can do all the player analysis and tactical studies you like, but footballs quite a simple game in the end, and Pardew has shown he hasn’t got a ****ing clue.
    One of the key elements has to be player fitness, and I have rarely seen such a bunch of lazy, overweight, tired, premadonnas on a football pitch.
    Its no wonder we are succumbing to so many injuries. Its pathetic.
    Clearly Ashley is happy to keep this moron in charge. Also he doesn’t give a dam about the fans or what we have had to endure this season.
    All that matters is maintaining our status as a premier league club, so the big money keeps coming in.
    There is no further ambition than that.
    We dodged a bullet this season, I doubt we will be as lucky next time.
    Sickens me to my stomach, the whole lot of it.
    Happy holidays.


  12. JJ, I find it amusing that you sneer at cheap European imports and then bring up Rudy Garcia as a possible replacement for Pardew. πŸ™‚ But I simply don’t agree with your claim that the players we have are ill-suited to a direct style. Cabaye is the kind of guy you’d build a direct team around, but his short passing is not that incisive.

    Regarding getting the best out of HBA – has ANYONE done that? The guy got in trouble at Lyon and Marseille, and his record at those clubs is inferior to what he’s done here. (Granted, he was a kid at Lyon.) Personally, I think we’ve seen his best. Technically brilliant and visionary, but also inconsistent, injury-prone, and undisciplined.

    Cisse is another story. While he had a bad spell, he’s playing well for us. The lack of goals this season is mainly due to the quality of chances being made for him, which reflects problems further back the in field.

    As for the media handling? It’s like any relationship. Someone’s bad habits are endearing when you like them, politely overlooked when you have nothing against them, and a stick in your hand when you dislike them.

    Finally, you’re making an amalgam of what I think makes sense for the club and what Pardew is up to. I don’t think it would be good for the club to be in European competition for the 2014-2015 season. But I do not speak for the club.


  13. @JJ

    What do you think of Ashley as an owner now that it looks like he’s keeping Pardew?

    It was once thrown at me, cos I wanted a top manager in, that its Ashley’s money and he can do what he wants at the club.

    Its now coming back to haunt them cos they are shouting for Pardews head and Ashley isn’t listening. I don’t hear anyone throwing that phrase around now.

    I say, welcome to the real world. πŸ˜‰


  14. I cant believe a fan wouldn’t want to win a cup or qualify for Europe .
    No time is too soon as it cant happen soon enough.

    JJ I think Jabba is happy enough with a Porshe with a lawn mower engine as you have stated he has no ties or feelings for the club its just a giant advertisment hoarding for SD and aslong as he gets that then.he’s happy


  15. I’m in Troy’s camp 100%.
    It doesn’t matter which manager we dream of coming here, we are lumbered with the CLOWN Pardew.
    Ashley will NOT bring in a High Quality Manager, of any description, with any record of success, because he will have to back that up by spending even more cash on new players.
    Its all about mediocrity and nothing else.
    Get used to it and stop dreaming.


  16. The reality train has never been more relevant.
    Jump on board if you want to go the real world but unfortunately, its a pretty mediocre place where excitement only comes along periodically.

    No rose tinted glasses allowed on this train boys. 😎 πŸ˜›


  17. Looks like the Expectation Express has been took back into the sidings for repair. πŸ˜› πŸ˜›


  18. Troy @461

    They can complain all they like. I will be happier. Far happier than watching the crap I have to see now.

    Even when we win I feel a bit down about the football that we played.

    I don’t care what anyone else thinks. πŸ˜† πŸ˜† Its all about ME ME ME!!!


  19. I think the Porsche/lawnmower analogy is spot on too.
    Looks mint in the showroom, but the performance is ****.


  20. Mark @ 445/447 – it’s fine if you don’t care about tactics, but why do you keep bringing them up? It’s perfectly legitimate to just complain about results.

    As I can see that people are burning with curiousity about my life, I guess a bit of personal revelation is in order. 😎 I played FM ’08 quite a bit, but haven’t touched the game in three years. If I’m using terminology from later versions of the game, that may have something to do with the designers basing Football Manager on, well, football. πŸ˜‰


  21. JJ – @471.
    I agree. We have scraped some right ****ty wins this season, and although we got the 3 points, you come away feeling sick at what you have just seen.
    Strange thing is, we keep on coming back for more.


  22. Troy,
    Just like people have said, the players have been piss poor.
    To me, that comes down to the manager’s ablity to get them to play and to motivate them to play.
    If he doesn’t do that, then he isn’t doing his job and must be held accountable.
    IF the manager remains in place, and the same crap continues to happen, then the owner must be held accountable.

    At the end of the season, if Pardew is still in charge. And has failed to excite supporters and get the best out of the players. Then I won’t be calling for Pardew’s head.
    I will be calling for Ashley’s head. I think many supporters will feel the same. Not that we have much power over that. We’d be idiots to not make ourselves heard.


  23. Troy-just to be clear, I’m not anywhere near your damn train. I agree Ash won’t bring in a top manager, but I always said he would get good players where avaliable and pay them their worth and not steve wraith’s 20k a week(because they are assets) and that’s the difference for me.

    Perhaps he would gamble on a new manager to increase the value of the players by actually improving them and getting better performances on the pitch? Can’t see it though.


  24. What is often overlooked is that managers normally end up sacked and don’t have a sell on value.

    They end up on 4 or 5 yr contract (Pardew 8 yrs) so if it goes **** up as inevitably does then the club has fork out a fortune plus buy a new manager and if they are in contract, pay the club compensation.

    Ashley has a plan for players which has attract decent players for cheap fees but they often have sell on values.

    I wish people would second guess more often by reading the tea leaves. πŸ˜›

    Grandma Baba Vanga taught me that one. πŸ˜›


  25. @Newkie

    You were reluctant last time to board the reality train. I couldn’t get you off by the end! πŸ˜›


  26. @JJ

    So it looks like you are on board as that is my point. Agree? πŸ˜‰


  27. JJ@457 Great analogy mate .

    Well given many think the problem is Ashley and not Pards due to Ashley’s lack of ambition maybe the Ashley out bedsheets need bringing out asap again. πŸ˜‰


  28. @JJ

    I would suggest if you hate Pardew as a manager so much now and as you’ve speculated about top managers such as Garcia arriving then you should be shouting for Pards head now. Not on the blog where its ineffective but at the ground. You do that in numbers, as its been suggested that your position is in the majority, then its the way to get a manager change.

    I suspect, that most people have caught onto this second guessing game that the reality train discovered and are now thinking they were right.


  29. @Kim

    Are you starting to second guess and realise Ashley won’t change the manager and bring in a sexy football manager.

    Actually, he might bring in Gullit as he’s been out of work for years and knows the club inside out. πŸ˜›


  30. Ashley and Pards still have to have the end of season chat ,you never know we may yet get a surprise yet.


  31. Kim, I don’t think the bedsheets approach will work.
    It didn’t work last time either.
    The rest of the world just laughs at us.
    No, a more powerful statement would be an empty stadium.
    ‘We’re not paying to watch this **** anymore’
    The press would love that and get on board.
    Will never happen tho. and the regime know it.


  32. The thing is Troy, its Ashley’s decision. The opinion is split, but I can only give mine.

    Who knows, Ashley could well prove us wrong be sticking by Pardew, as many have suggested that Moyes was stuck by.

    But for me, anything less than 8th with the squad we have is a failure.

    If we played attractive football, I’d still accept being between 9th and 13th (comfortably midtable), but to have to watch direct rubbish footall and underachieve in terms of results just isn’t good enough for me.

    So if Ashley wants to stick with Pards, thats fine. But if we don’t finish 8th or higher, I’ll be calling for his head as publically and as loudly as I can (Ashley’s that is)…


  33. Kim,

    Pressuring Ashley to lower his price won’t get the club owned by an oil Emir. If the bed sheets got the fat man out, then we’d be looking at either local businessmen on the make (which wouldn’t be much of an improvement on Ashley, and certainly more brittle in the face of disaster) or asset strippers.

    Any improvement in terms of ownership would pay the asking price.


  34. @Kim

    I can’t help second guessing again and feel confident that to pay him compensation, look ridiculous cos he’s gave him an 8 yr contract and the cost of getting another manager, that Pardew will be as safe as David Moyes at Man Utd for next season. πŸ˜‰


  35. JJ do you really think Ashley gives a **** if you decide he’s the problem ❓

    Kim the Ashley out wont work simply because not enough fans will make a stand, all it would do is give him a laugh. He has seen before that he and lambastad can do anything they want ie KK fiasco, re naming the ground, de camping level 7 etc etc and the fans will still turn up and pay their money.


  36. I’m suspecting the ‘end of season chat’ has already taken place.
    I’m also thinking we need to sell of some players to buy some spare parts for the lawnmower engine. After all we could never afford a new engine.


  37. Well glad it is over and relieved we survived although we never needed another point as Wigan never got enough so NO Mr. Pardew, it was not an achievement!

    Cabaye all season was really poor!

    Marv was a pleasant surprise and I wonder why he does not get enough game time. His speed and versatility going forward allowed for a variation of attacking strategies but under Pardew variation is not his strong side.

    Cisse: Utter Tripe. No spatial awareness; cannot hold the ball to allow support time to get going; Cannot dribble past training cone; Needs very singular, special and precise and very very narrow window conditions and settings to start scoring. anything outside that and he is useless.

    Shola: Needs more game time. He was quite effective First half of the season when working with a striker that can actually do something.

    Collo: Class wish he was staying.

    Krul: Needs better distribution.

    HBA still too greedy trying to dance the ball around too many players. Arrogance of youth is no longer an excuse he is too old for that excuse to apply. this is what I would expect from an arrogant inexperienced 18-21 year old.

    Sissoko: What a beast. If nurtured carefully he could be a goal threat from us from midfield contributing 9-12 goals a season. He fizzled out though

    Gouffran: Bargin but needs nurturing. At the moment he seems to be played as a spare wheel. Somewhere between a defensive mid, attacking mid, central mid and striker.

    Haidara: Great at left back. Looks really promising.

    Taylor: Even if he never had hands he would still give away handballs. He seems more adroit with his hands then feet. He might have a future as a goal keeper.

    Tiote: WTF happened to him. Liability.

    Perch: Versatility is extraordinary. Offers so much defensively.

    Jonas: Everyone needs a scapegoat or rather ‘escape goat’ for the not very thinking contingent of NUFC fans. Personally for me he started poor but his performances improved significantly. He was certainly better than Cabaye but when Cabaye performs dreadfully all manner of legitimate and perfectly natural mitigating circumstances are suggested as if those suggesting them know firsthand. Upset his mate was not bought; his wife is pregnant; Shola; Williamson; Jonas; Ba! Why is it Jonas is not afforded all these mitigating circumstances?


  38. @JJ

    so you on board and starting to realise that second guessing isn’t such a bad thing? πŸ˜‰

    Come on JJ, the second guessers had to stick to their beliefs against the majority on here. I’ve got tickets for Mediocre City going for half price on a ten year deal. πŸ˜›


  39. Wellington
    May 21, 2013 at 09:18
    “As I can see that people are burning with curiousity about my life, I guess a bit of personal revelation is in order. 😎 I played FM ’08 quite a bit, but haven’t touched the game in three years. If I’m using terminology from later versions of the game, that may have something to do with the designers basing Football Manager on, well, football. πŸ˜‰ ”

    Now your excuses are starting to imitate Pardew’s 😳 πŸ˜‰


  40. Michael,

    You have to bear in mind that Jonas was one of Maradona’s first names on the Argentina team sheet. A player like that is expected to give a world-class performance every match. πŸ˜‰


  41. Big Dave @489
    He gave enough of a **** to get his “feelings” hurt and write a personal letter last time.
    I wouldn’t mind a ****ing personal statement from him again.


  42. JJ – careful. You might end up talking me into Pardew’s job. 😯 πŸ˜‰ 😯


  43. If the last Anti Ashley campaign didn’t work then there’s no chance now. He has a lot of support because of the financial success.

    Last time, we were in massive debt, 5 managers in one season and relegation and he still came out smelling of roses.

    He’s stabilising the club and that’s great. My second guess is tho he is happy to have a mediocre club that rakes in millions season on season, using our stadium and name as his advertising board for his even bigger money maker Sports Direct. 😯


  44. Michael
    So you think Jonas is better than Cabaye and you think Shola is better than Cisse? πŸ™„ πŸ˜†


  45. Troy@487
    “I can’t help second guessing again and feel confident that to pay him compensation, look ridiculous cos he’s gave him an 8 yr contract and the cost of getting another manager, that Pardew will be as safe as David Moyes at Man Utd for next season. ”

    Troy, I actually think he looks more ridiculous for sticking with a manager that may actually take us down if we continue to perform like last year. It’s not like it’s a case of ‘if it ain’t broke’ ,as it obviously needs fixing to me and Imo it’s the brave move not a ridiculous or dumb move .


  46. @ BB post 464

    Absolutely spot on analysis mate, it’s our main problem in that there is no attacking plan at all, which is why we are so pathetic away from home then eventually the team succumb to the pressure of must win games at home, which has happened.

    I say anyone who knows football would look at the FA Cup Final as a prime example, and realise under Pardew we could never triumph in such a way being an underdog in one off big game.

    Then there is an unbelievable minority that say a Martinez type manager doesn’t know how to set a team up defensively so he would be a poor choice. Well Pardew has shown he is inept at both, worst defence in our history, most losses, and score 1 goal MAX in a game.


  47. TROY STAVERS – “The reality train has never been more relevant.”

    I can hear it coming. Yeah but, no but, yeah but, no but, yeah but, no but … Pardew, Rafa, Pardew, Rafa, Pardew, Rafa WOO HOOOOOO! πŸ˜›

    “Ive been criticised for second guessing Ashley. Well, those that have second guessed him have been right so far.”

    Let’s get it right. You’ve been criticised for backing Pards, defending him at every opportunity, buying his excuses and regurgitating them, making arguments for long term stability under Pardew, and sticking by him when everyone else recognised he was useless. You’ve been criticised for justifying your defence of Pardew and resigning yourself to us not getting a better manager in the whole world than Pardew – all based on your second guessing of Ashley. You’ve been criticised for your Wellingtonesque display of cleverness, over analysis and over thinking, and not simply saying all along: “Pards is crap. Get rid. Ashley, appoint a top manager. That is what this club needs.”

    You’re still coming out with BS like:

    “… unless Ashley changes his spending policy and ups the managers wages considerably.” BLAH BLAH BLAH CHOO CHOO CHOO

    There are plenty of very good managers who would take this job who would not demand the budgets of Man City or Chelsea. The idea that Ashley will not pay the going rate for a very good manager has already been debunked. It’s a blast of hot steam from the REALITY TRAIN’s boiler to create a subterfuge for its embarrassing, chronic, season long defence of Pardew. You’re kidding no one, fella.

    There is absolutely no reason why any second guessing of Ashley should mean that anyone can’t state what they want to see happen. It’s not as if it’s not within Ashley’s gift. Only in the last month has the RT called for Rafa.


  48. Note that I don’t say I agree with Wellington, I just think he argues his point well, and says it with a good deal of knowledge underlying his points. This is a long way from the reactionary, Pardew-is-at-fault-for-all-things argument (and the attendant everything-Pardew-says-is crap syndrome), and the this-is-how-it-should-be-done argument.

    In my opinion, a lot of the comments about hoofball, defensive plan A, lack of plan B, no plan at set pieces, etc, are way off the mark. I don’t for one minute believe that preparation for a game is as non-existent as some try to make out. And I firmly believe that all the formations proposed on here have been debated ad nauseam in the Newcastle back room, and I’m more than certain that player roles and many strategies that most people on here would have no idea about are also debated.

    This season it seems to me that we have tried to play a counter-attacking style while playing a high line in defence and crowding the midfield by condensing the playing area, using the full backs to give width.

    Unfortunately we don’t pull it off very well. I don’t see the necessary cutting edge. I don’t see the speed of thought needed. It happens occasionally but often the attack isn’t fast enough and we end up lobbing a useless ball into the middle. I see the defence falling too far back (except when Colo plays). And I see useless long balls to a player who is not equipped to deal with them, although there were some good signs of the ball over the top actually working in the Arsenal game.

    Pardew also experiments extensively – often criticised here as playing players out of position – again it has not come off (he’ll look like a genius when it does). I’m not going to criticise somebody for trying something different. equally so, he hasn’t shown me that he can turn things around with his tactical changes during games.

    The players were obviously lacking in confidence in the last few games – witness the number of times we passed in ever decreasing triangles until the ball was played out for a throw. No confidence to take control. Too scared of being caught in possession.

    Pardew has to take some flak for all these things not working as they should, but there are other reasons as well for them not working, the players for eg.

    So I’m actually probably closer to the general JJ/MM mindset than Wellington’s, πŸ˜† πŸ˜† πŸ˜† it’s just that I think Wellington expresses his views with a much more balanced tone.


  49. Bris – “it’s just that I think Wellington expresses his views with a much more balanced tone.”

    Are you having a laugh? You’re having a laugh. He’s the most condescending, patronising pumpkin I’ve ever read. Just because he quotes Michael Cox and facts and figures doesn’t mean he draws superior conclusions.


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