So what is Kinnear’s job at Newcastle?

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Joe Kinnear’s summer appointment was met with dismay and confusion amongst fans of Newcastle United.

Appointed as Director of Football, it was the task of Joe to look after the football side of things and, in particular, to assist in transfers into the club.

The anger to his appointment was met with some bullish claims by the former Wimbledon man who even claimed that he could call up any manager he liked and they’d all answer the phone to him. He also asked to be judged on his signings so, after adding no new permanent faces over the summer, is the time for judging now? Or would we, as Joe says, just be looking for something negative to chew on like we always do according to the man himself?

In terms of signing players he has failed at his job miserably. That is in the terms that I, and probably most of us, thought that he would be utilised by the club. However having pondered things these past few days and digested what has come out of the club prior to the window closing, I’m now wondering if Joe has failed at his job at all?

Take Alan Pardew’s statement for example, released the day after the transfer window closed. Read it below and see what you think:

“We are delighted to have brought Loic Remy to the club in this window and we believe he will form an exciting and effective partnership with Papiss Cisse.

“Joe has worked hard on numerous targets, particularly an additional offensive player. However some of the options that were available within our financial means were not as good as the players we already had and there is no point bringing in new players unless they can improve us and take us forward.

“We did the majority of our business in the January window, signing five excellent first team players.

“With the strong squad we have we should all approach the season in a positive, optimistic frame of mind.”

Now from that it looks as though we were never really interested in anyone over the summer so was Joe’s job to deflect some of the attention from a lack of activity? Is he being used as the fall guy?

Like I said in the last article, I’m angry we’ve not signed anyone but I’m not disappointed. It’s hard to be disappointed abut something you’ve half expected all along. I don’t like the waffle that comes out of the club, I don’t like who they have waffling at us so as a result I don’t believe anything until it happens any more.

It’s just a shambles that is in danger of turning toxic just like what happened in the relegation season. Fan unrest is at a high level and whilst I agree that a stand should be made I’m also mindful that the backing for players during matches still needs to be there. After all, they’ve not been helped out either.

So among all of these claims that Kinnear is just a Director of F**kall, just spare a moment to think of the possibility that perhaps he’s not the inept halfwait he makes out to be and has instead done what he was hired to do in the first place.

Just a few thoughts…

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270 thoughts on “So what is Kinnear’s job at Newcastle?

  1. Hopefully we’ll be rid of him in 3 or 4 years but you could be right BB @150 mate. Horrible thought though isn’t it? And Sharpy @149 you’re spot on as well mate. Ashley never intended to give us a good enough manager to win anything or finish in the top 6. He was probably as shocked as anyone when Pardew managed it. Then he made sure we would slide back down the table by doing nothing that summer. Which nearly ended up in disaster in the other direction. Poor Ashley, he’s completely lost and clueless as usual.

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  2. There is also no doubt in my mind that JfK was only brought in to assert some mental pressure on Pardew to ‘up’ his game.
    The spectre of JfK is hanging over pardew constantly now.
    Pardew knows if he doesn’t start getting the performances out of the Lads he has available, Joker can step in and take over in a heart beat.
    Even if only on a temp basis. It will happen if necessary.
    Only a spineless mug would work under these circumstances.
    A weak lily livered coward, such as pardew for example.
    Perfect.

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  3. Sharpoid@149, indeed we got rid of Hughton for one reason only – he had a passion for the good of football and NUFC. He had morals. He was in tune with the fans, was too outspoken. He what we needed and stuck to his guns. Therefore he knew too much, and got the hit from Fatty’s boys. He wouldn’t bend over and take one from the Fatman, so the Fatman hired someone who would.

    Bootsy Boots, indeed patience is a virtue – if not a ****ing boring one!

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  4. Santii – sorry mate, the boy was up. Aye I saw the pass. It was typical Sammy, he stumbled along never looking completely in control of the ball then pings such a sweet little ball over the top and having beat the keeper – how the F did he miss?!.
    Sammy had an easy pass out to the wing but showed great vision to dink that pass into the CF.

    I think he has alot to offer, he’s still very young but seems to relish the challenge and is happy to play with that level of expectation on him. I really liked what he did at Morecombe and think this could be a big season for him.
    That left side is his for the taking really and he’ll never get a better opportunity to claim it or show he’s good enough IMO

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  5. I am prepared to accept 5 years of mediocrity, if the light at the end of the tunnel, is mashley getting the hell out of Toon.
    I will not be happy tho if that 5 years is a constant relegation battle season upon season.
    Also I am not 100% convinced the fat kunt will bugger off at the end of the loan repayment period. šŸ™

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  6. BB, I’m not prepared to accept 5 years of mediocrity I’m afraid.
    It’s a ****ing disgrace that it’s got to this.
    Football is happening NOW.
    Every other club seems to realise, and invest funds wisely in their ‘assets’ in order to escalate their table finish.

    Fatboy has Sp***s Dir*** though, that’s clearly what he wants to expand. Football (and the North East) takes a back seat. Fatboy currently has loyal fans nestling within his corporate vandalism, and he loves it. We are therefore his ****es, for now, unfortunately.

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  7. Sharpy, he got out a couple of weeks back mate; after 3 months of wires, tubes, and moaning about **** food and nee fresh air. On the road to recovery now. Thanks for asking.
    Tough (and impatient) old fker. I take after me Mam. šŸ˜Ž

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  8. I hear ya Rodz, but I don’t hear your solution.
    Suck it up fella, bend over and take it dry off Mr A.

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  9. It will be very interesting to see how Swansea cope with Europa, Prem Lge and cup runs, compared to our dire showing last season.
    I’ll wager now, that they will acquit themselves very well. Will finish higher up the league than we did and wont have their manager crying and bleating to the press how hard it is to be in Europe.

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  10. Oh no, we have to play Leeds Utd midweek, between the Hull city and Everton games.
    How will we ever cope šŸ˜³
    I guess Pardew has the perfect ready made excuse for our defeat to Everton then.
    “Make no bones, Leeds are a very very good team.
    Not many teams will come to SJP and go away with a win.
    The defeat to Leeds knocked our confidence a bit.
    We need to work on a few things before our long trip down to Cardiff.
    I am planning to hold talks with kebab about his future”
    zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

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  11. BB, the only solution in my mind is Fatboy sells up to some other fker who knows nowt about football, yet understands the meaning of the words ‘entertainment’ and ‘kudos’.

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  12. And so the **** goes on.
    All aboard the Pardew bull**** bus.
    Thank god we’re not in Europe šŸ˜³

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  13. Them Leeds is a tough nut to crack, I tell yer.
    We played our best squad tonight, with a tough league game coming up.
    I decided to play young Haris up front, in a 4-3-2-1 formation, with a left footer on the right, a right footer on the left, and a left right in centre midfield.

    Thems the games to try stuff. I’m telling yer. Me, Mike and Joe love our butt games, and Shola put in a good show too.

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  14. We was at a disadvarntidge from the start, with the Debuchy sending off. He’s keen, but he’s French, so you never know in the wowld of footbowl.

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  15. I think we put in wan-handrid percent tonight, with the size of our squad, we had to play a really **** game because God told me to do it.
    Our injuries also played a part, outside divine intervention.

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  16. Was Pardew a pirhana or a halibut in his past life?
    I’ve given it some thought, and I’m none the wiser. Am sat here with Glenn Hoddle, that’s why I ask. Hoddo reckons he was a dolphin.

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  17. There isn’t any Aussie.
    Bloody international break šŸ‘æ
    The season has barely started ffs

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  18. Just been watching SSN and there’s been a bit on explaining how the Gareth Bale deal was heavily subsidized by the tax payers of England and across Europe. Real Madrid are already something like 500m in debit and have taken a 100m from the bank to finance the purchase or Bale – simply to make a statement of how big a club they are?!.
    It was said that only Barca in Spain would have been given that loan – how is that fair?!.
    I know they sold Ozil for around ā‚¬50m, so why aren’t the banks or UEFA stepping in and saying sell 2 players from your mega expensive squad to buy Bale.

    I know I moan about the lack of money we spend, but that just can’t be right or allowed to happen.

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  19. Boots – international football break mate, the the Aviva rugby premiership starts tonight with the Falcons v Bath – well I’m happy anyway šŸ˜‰

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  20. you guys should apologise to joe and ashley for some of the things you say on here. top 6 and everyone should bow down to them

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  21. BIG DAVE
    September 5, 2013 at 09:41

    Newkie maybe Pards didnt say the exact word happy but for me approaching the season in a positive and optimistic manner sounds to me that he is saying he is happy enough.

    Exactly Dave, he didn’t say it. All he is saying is the window is over and now we need to hope for the best for the season ahead (optimistic manner). It’s the same as trying to stay positive when you’re in a ****e situation whatever the context, which personally I try to do, although I usually only adopt it after a massive rant šŸ˜ˆ

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  22. As for Kinnear’s job, I don’t think it was wholly cloak and dagger as all of us wanted rid of Llambias. It just so happens the one guy that could challenge his unpopularity happens to be the one who replaced him šŸ˜• Kinnear obviously has a bit more football knowledge but **** me it was still a shocking appointment. I think we would have brought in the players if Ashley saw profit in it, but as he didn’t, we didn’t get ****

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  23. Newkie I try to be optimistic but I think most fan’s wanted a permanent replacement for Ba. It might be cheaper in january and the only positive is it’s cheaper. Still think Ashley will get the loan down and make it more attractive for a potential buyer ? I just get the feeling that he would be happier at Ranger’s getting into the Champions league on a shoe string. More free publicity and advertising for SD. I don’t want to see us struggling imo. One more season after this and they will be back in the SPL. I think that will be the time he sales up ? Taking Pardew as there new manager ( hopefully ) and Kinnear as DOF.

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  24. We our level on points with Manu and that’s good in a way. Still need until xmas to get a better picture of where we stand.

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  25. If we get to the forth round of the F.A cup and to the semi’s of the capital one cup and maintain a respectable league position then I’m happy mate. Don’t think that’s asking to much mate ?

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  26. Looks like the blog reflects the interest at the moment. Flat and bored with it all. Everyone’s said their piece on Kinnear and Pardew and we’ve agreed ourselves into a stupor.

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  27. Stem-

    If you’re referring to next round of the League Cup, we play Leeds. If you’re referring to the FA Cup, I have no idea.

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  28. I have a question to ask. I really hope it’s true but wont hold my breath. Mike Ashley has started talks with a ukrainian oil billionaire thats worth 15.1Billion and the 7th ?

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  29. I’m as pissed off and disgruntled as any toon fan with Ashleys lack of investment in NUFC – but I really don’t see the point in protesting to be honest.
    What is this Ashley out craic all about – he owns the bloody club – he isn’t an employee who can just be sacked.
    How do you force him out?. It would require some other billionaire to but him out for that to happen and he’s said if someone offers what he wants for the club then he’ll sell.
    To my knowledge he hasn’t knocked any potential buyer back – there haven’t been any!.

    Protesting could potentially turn an interested party off going for us. It certainly didn’t help the Blackburn fans did it?!.

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  30. Sharpy I really believe people need to stand up an make their voices heard. If we have the attitude of “well this won’t work or he owns the club we can’t get him out” we will forever be stuck with the man. If someone was hitting you with a stick would you just sit there and take it or would you stand up for yourself or what you believe (a strange example I know). It may not work protesting but then again it might as long as it done in a sensible way and not a way that makes Newcastle look ridiculous. I really have had enough of being treated like a mug by a man who is a bully and doesn’t care and thinks he is above everyone else. Its time that Newcastle fans stood together and give Ashley a wake up call. and yes he probably won’t care but at least we are trying to fightback.

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  31. Stem – I wouldn’t get overly excited mate. That Russian billionaire story is a non starter – a poor fiction story made up by some pleb on transfer deadline day.
    When news breaks that there is a party giving due diligence then I’d allow myself to get excited.

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  32. @Alberts Tash

    I agree. It’s like a battered wife syndrome. You have to fight back and show our disapproval.

    I’m up for marches, chanting anti Ashley songs and boycotting.

    I hate the ******* with a passion.

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  33. I was there the last time they protested before and during the hull match and I did nothing but harm.

    On the back of that hull went on a winning streak which eventually saved them, Ashley put the club up for sale and refused to appoint a manager permanantly which led to Kinnears name ever being associated with our once proud club and our players that had started the season so well under KK seemed to give up.

    I hope people try and channel frustrations into supporting the lads like at pardews first game after Hughton was bundled oot the door. There were quite a few FCB chants thrown at him rightly but they got behind the lads even after Liverpool equalised and we got the result which was the most important thing…

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  34. ‘boycout’ šŸ˜³
    its the only way
    An empty stadium sends a powerful message.
    Wont ever happen tho.
    Too many battered wives just happy to take another beating.

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  35. To be truthfully honest I am sick of Mike Ashley. I just wish he would f off and leave Newcastle alone. We never asked him to buy the club and his bad taste in managers and director of football is a bloody insult. Surely there’s a billionaire out there that can save us from these d*ck heads.

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  36. Stem@193-I get what you mean, but if we signed Remy would he not be Ba’s perm replacement? I mean he is for this season and, on paper, we should have a stronger front 3 as he can lead the line and play off Cisse better than Ba could. In hindsight I don’t think we should have gone in for Cisse but rather just sorted Ba’s contract out and then got replacements for Best and Shola (although I would still 100% have Best in our squad tbh)

    I agree with you about Rangers, seriously hoping they get promoted and Ash buys into them and sells us, but tbh I think if he was going to he would have done it by now-Rangers shares will only get more and more expensive as they go up so why hasn’t he sold us alreadt šŸ˜• He could easily name Ibrox the Sports Direct Owner and still retain full ownership of us on a personal level.

    I just can’t believe that not one ******* wants to own us seeing as we’re not costing anyone a penny these days šŸ˜• We’re in a great catchment area for future development, why is nobody taking the risk?

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  37. Looking at our next 6 Prem games:
    Villa (a): loss 1-0
    Hull (h): win 2-1
    Everton (a): loss 2-0
    Cardiff (a): draw 1-1
    Liverpool (h): loss 2-0
    Mackems (a): draw 1-1
    That would give us 5 more points or 9 in total. Nine points from our first 9 games. Sounds like about a 38-42 point season but if injuries mount we will start to sweat. I hope I’m wrong. There are possible wins at Villa and Cardiff which would have us flying in comparison (14 points from 9 games).

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  38. G2-Do you not think we have a chance vs the mackems as well pal? They’ve sold two of their best performers and they are playing utter ****e at the moment.

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  39. Newkie You don’t think it’s the Wonga deal that’s putting potential buyers off do you ? The only reason I ask is because sponsorship could be a stumbling block. If a new owner could make more revenue with there richer connections then there losing money from the start ?

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  40. Newkie mate hmmm. No, I think after a sound beating by Liverpool our heads will drop a little. A draw away against the mackems but a win at home later in the season against them. We’ll have to see Remy for a few games to see what he can do. Is it true we have no option to buy him at the end of the season? Haven’t been able to find anything definite on that.

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  41. G2 I have no idea what our great director of football will do next. Kinnear will probably end up putting a 5 million pound bid for Messi then say we tryed but failed.

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  42. Well Joe is very quiet now isn’t he STEM? A little embarrassed possibly? Hasn’t done a thing really. The Remy deal was already underway after they were relegated. Is he working on new contracts? We need Ben Arfa’s to be extended or his head will be turned. It all sounds a little shaky to me. I would love to see Tiote regain form just to give our DM situation a lift as well. These international breaks are so boring.

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  43. What are people thinking in terms of goals for this season? Iā€™m predicting 45-50 goals for but at least 55 against, so a negative GD but better than last season. See mates, I am an optimist at heart. šŸ˜†

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  44. Villa (a): draw 1-1
    Hull (h): win 3-0
    Everton (a): loss 1-0
    Cardiff (a): draw 1-1
    Liverpool (h): draw 1-1
    Mackems (a): win 1-2

    Toon Toon

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  45. I reckon Lliambias would of spoken by now regarding transfer (or lack of them). Kinnear just hides behind the statement Ashley gave Pardew to read..

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  46. That’s very brave Mark mate. šŸ˜€ Nine points from 6 and a draw against a team that beat us 6-0 at home last season. I hope you’re right mate. Liverpool are building a very strong side though. They really moved the ball around against ManU and they give you very little time on the ball. Just what we’re not good at handling. Maybe they’ll have an off game though.

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  47. 47-60= -13 goal difference.
    League position 11-9th
    Which means we wont get relegated and Pardew doesn’t have to worry about europe. Ashley wont have to get the chequebook out either.
    4th round FA cup
    QF Capital one cup

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  48. A QF for us STEM mate? That would put Pardew in line for a raise wouldn’t it? And then safely out of the competition so no worries of Europe either. I like your goal difference prediction as well. Remy to get 18 for us, Cisse 12, Ben Arfa 8, the rest spit up amongst the squad.

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