Grow your own!

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With no Premier League fixtures this weekend and only internationals, it seemed an opportune moment to write about the FA’s latest brain wave.
So it would seem the FA have come up with a scheme to deliver us a better, improved England football team somewhere in the future.
Greg Dyke has this week outlined proposals to improve the lot of the young up and coming English players. He wants the rules changed so that we have more home grown players in Premier League Squads.
Currently Premier League Sides are allowed 17 non home grown players and the new rules would reduce this to 13 and at least two would have to have been trained by the club.
All Premier League clubs will have up to 4 years to implement these changes which if they go ahead will start from 2016. Newcastle amongst others, namely Arsenal, Spurs, Chelsea and Man City all currently fall foul of the new rules, but as outlined we would have 4 years to address this.
Greg Dyke was due to meet with Premier League chairman this week to discuss this new proposal and I’m pretty sure he’ll face some resistance.
There has been quite a few articles in the press over the last couple of weeks talking about the demise (for want of a better word) of the Premier League. Various journalist have pointed out that the lack of big name foreign stars coming to the Premier League has impacted on it’s pulling power and ability to compete in the champions league. They argue that with more and more top stars now favoring a move to La Liga, the Bundesliga or French Ligue 1 or even Serie A in Italy; it means the entertainment of the Premier League has greatly decreased.
In so far as the Premier leagues appeal goes, then it would seem more Johnny foreigners are the order of the day, not less, so where does that leave England? Of course the FA and the Premier League will always be at loggerheads over one thing or another due to the fact that each body has very different aims. But when it comes to what’s best for England, it would be nice if they could work together.
I’m not so sure the lack of home grown is the reason for Englands poor performances at Euro and world cups, maybe the long hard season and lack of winter break has some impact. Also, we just don’t seem to produce the calibre of player other top teams do, and when we do produce one a whole world of pressure gets put on them. Indeed should they stub their toe, wreck a matertarsal or get a thigh strain the whole team collapses without them!
So if the press have it right about the imminent demise of the Premier league, what will the effect of the home grown quota have on the Premier League? Will fans be happy to see more local lads break in to the first team even if they aren’t as technically gifted as their foreign peers? Will it mean that say 10 years from now we have a more competitive England team? Over to you.

By Kimtoon

419 thoughts on “Grow your own!

  1. I hadn’t realised that Ashley had sacked the toon medical staff as a result of his cost cutting exercise. Haidara was on the verge of a comeback a few weeks ago, now he’s out for the season. Ditto the number of injured players who were supposedly out for a week, then out for 3 months…. Who is advising or carrying out medical appraisals ? Or are the Chronny and the media being sold a bum-steer by the club and being made to look like diddy’s ?

    How can John Carver seriously manage his “full strength” squad when he is getting false information from his medical staff ? Is Doris the team lady multi-tasking ? So many conundrums….. it’s all Fat Sam’s fault for bringing a 15 man support team with him…. Ashley aint having any more of that…. !!! …..

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  2. Being huffy, sarcastic and downright miserable must be an Australian thing. I hadn’t realised until I joined this blog. 😆

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  3. Munich – It’s skeletal staff in every dept. this is a business, nothing more. This business like many more just have a sports team who play football every week. It’s not the priority but it’s good for staff morale

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  4. Sundays a bizarre situation; They are hovering a place above the relegation zone with a tough run in & Burnley breathing down their necks who have better fixtures and more fight imo

    We are slap bang in midtable 8 points off the top 8, 10 points off the relegation zone & yet were the ones under pressure to get a result

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  5. I would take a draw now versus the Mackems. It’s ganna be messy if the toon get beat. Fans will be on the drink early doors. It’s messy when they aren’t on the drink. Think I’ll take it easy and have a late start. Midday will do. 😯

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  6. A draw would probably be a good result for us on the basis everyone goes home happy. We don’t want Carver getting the job now do we ?

    Troy we got more 3 goal hammering’s or more under Pardew’s reign than any other manager. He only did well with Hughton’s team before Ashley and Carr thought they knew best.

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  7. Cant say im not enjoying seeing Wigan trickle back down the leagues, Moronic supporters, Horrible club, Odious prick of a chairman & a bigoted ****** of a manager

    Shame for Perch but he’ll find a nicer club with any luck

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  8. Howay Terry. It was never Hughtons team or Pardew’s team for that matter.

    The scout amd DoF have always picked the players.

    It matters little who the coach is providing he’s an average premier league manager like the average quality of players. A top coach might improve things but there’s always a limit and that isn’t high.

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  9. Think the unwashed have the advantage over us with Defoe, Johnson, wickham and Fletcher all likely to find the back of the net before our lads . Would feel more confident if we had Cisse available , it’s a lot for Perez and Arma if picked to do.

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  10. I see Andy Carroll has had a 15ft replica of the angel of the north put outside his mansion in Chigwell 😆

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  11. The curse of NUFC seems to follow our players. As well as the Rangers 5 being injured, now Alnwick is out for the season 🙂 He’ll not be a NUFC player for much longer though.

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  12. With the right combination of scrambly bits and hoofball we should manage a draw against Sunderland. 😯

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  13. Some interesting new quotes from Johnny C.:
    “Alan Pardew left me with a very deep squad. He built us up last summer just in case we had a bad run of injuries and suspensions. That’s why we’re so high up in the league table now. All I have to do is maintain an even keel and get us over the line with more than 37 points. That’s my task and I’m up to it.”
    Ta Johnny C.

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  14. More from Johnny C.:
    “Some of you lot have demanded that we try for more than 40 points this season. That’s being greedy and unreasonable. There’s no need to get more than 38 points according to Mike. We’ll conserve energy for next season that way. It’s all the wrong minded Geordies that are causing problems for this club.”
    Once again, many thanks Johnny C.

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  15. Never fear lads, it’s smooth sailing to 38 points! Three draws and we’re over the line. 😆

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  16. Three draws and 5 more losses would give Johnny C. 2 wins in 20 for a brilliant 10% winning rate. Would that be a record I wonder?

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  17. We do hold the record for most draws in a season (17) along with Villa. Sunderland, Ipswich, and Derby hold the record for most losses in a season (a very spiffy 29!).

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  18. We’ve conceded a record high 9 goals in the last 5 minutes of games this season which have cost us 8 points, Just think with a tighter more disciplined defence we’d be on 43 in 9th place, and in the desired top 10 slot 😉

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  19. I believe we’ll challenge for 15th place next season because the owner cares so much about us. He loves his club and is willing to spend madly to get us into 15th place. Count on it lads. You heard it here first.

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  20. Personally I think a target of 15th place is a little high considering the level of ambition of our owner.

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  21. When it comes to Mike I sometimes get overly optimistic but then quickly come to my senses.

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  22. I always knew you were a pessimist Kimtoon mate. 😆 We’re definitely building a 15th place side. No doubt about it.

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  23. Are there any trophies, badges etc. for a 15th place finish? I mean to put beside all the other trophies we’ve won during Mike’s time with us.

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  24. We did win the Championship trophy with him of course but most of us don’t want to win that one too often.

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  25. If we sell Krul, Tiote, Obertan (give away more likely), Willo, and Riviere this summer that should bring in about 20M pounds. So with the 18.7M pound profit already declared and 4M for Percy that makes about 42.7M pounds. How much of that will Mike be willing to spend on players? Say 5M pounds if we include wages and agents’ fees. Surely 5M pounds will get us 10 or 12 top players? At least that’s what Mike thinks.

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  26. So what is the story about last year’s profits then? What did some of the profit get spent on? Players wages: down; player sales: profit (Cabaye 19M); attendance: normal, commercial revenue: up; TV revenue: up; total revenue: up 33.7M over previous year. Where did the money go Mike?

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  27. Ashley’s lawyers, the committee reported, had said Ashley was “unavailable in March”, and Hellawell appeared instead, pressed into a series of admissions. Sports Direct had withheld rent to the warehouse landlord and payments to the clothing brand Diesel, to gain an advantage in negotiations, which Davidson described as “reprehensible practices”, while the Conservative MP Simon Reevell said the actions made Sports Direct look “like some sort of backstreet outfit”.
    Nice little excerpt about Ashley business practices form the above link from Munich. Is there a bigger swine in England?

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  28. The vast majority of the country can see it.
    The national media can see it.
    The local media can see it
    Everyone with a modicum of sense can see it.

    There’s only two people who can’t see it

    Aussie and Begas.

    The club is owned and run by someone who has no interest in NUFC as a football club in terms of a community asset. To Ashley it means making profit and generating money for SD.

    There are a few of us who recognised this year’s ago. We took abuse but rode with it.

    It’s generally accepted now that the Reality Train pulled into the station to a round of applause and sits there alongside the Orient Express.

    I can only assume, the only two bloggers who disagree have something in common other than being Australian.

    Khaki clothes poisoning.! Terrible affliction. It causes nausea, bad breath and miserablism!

    It sadly results in a long period of miserable,sarcastic, ugly tantrums which manifests into huge huffisms that go beyond ordinary huffs.

    I’m a great believer in tolerance of all people I simply don’t take offence. My Bro does but I don’t. Anyway,that’s another issue.

    I love the fact that no one is the same. I love the fact not everyone is like me. Though I have been on this blog long enough to see that many are resilient and can take criticism and brush it off like an irritating house fly.

    The biggest thing that has totally surprised me is the fact that the two Australians on this blog don’t fall into this category.

    Au contrary. I’ve found that they are the most sensitive, Illnatured, miserable, unfriendly people I’ve met on this blog.

    Yes, there’s been horrific individuals over the years but they have been temporary and moved on, but as far as regulars go, well, they are the worst.

    Bitter personalities.

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  29. Anyway. They don’t deserve barring. Far from it. They have their opinions. That’s what makes a blog. Every blog should have a Waldorf & Statler!

    Seriously though. What a horrible pair of personalities.

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  30. Finally before I gan to sleep. I have had some right battles over the years with many bloggers. Lately Eric and Bootsy. But I’ve got to say , they are a totally different kettle of fish compared to the two Ozzies.

    Unlike those lads, the Ozzies have no humility.

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  31. I admit I find hard to think that we’ll do win or compete with ashley, but here is the hope to rebuild. Even if Sissoko leaves, with the right move he can be replaced. Id like to see us sell Gouffran Anita Obertan and Willo with big names Krul Cisse Tiote Sissoko Coloccini looking to leave. I admit we look like going nowhere, but we might see the emergence of Kemen next season, Abeid to play with Colback with a 3rd man, it could be de Jong. In my opinion with Darlow and Lascelles already in, we just need 1 CB of Kara, Van Dijjk, Dunk, bring 2 of them if Saylor leaves, one versatile midfielder also set piece specialist, Ben Pringle to replace Anita in rotation, bring Kemen to play defensive midfielder and Vuckic as attacking CM looking to prove a point in that rotation too, sign a physical striker that can score , hold up and create space one of Bas Dost, Jordan Rhides or Mitrovic, keep the 433 with Cabella right, and Ayoze left, with Aarons and Sammy on new deals looking to bring something too. Bring something else to Sammy and use him as striker if needed. Then if they want to talent on wings we got Cabella Ayo Sammy Aarons, then Roberts is also there. Upfront we’ll have Ayoze, de Jong, Armstrong, Cabella, Ameobi, Vuckic and the new striker as options, wich is not bad. One or 2CB, 1Cm, 1Striker+ Lascelles Darlow and we’re good.Then just need a decent head coach, Id take Galtier. Janmaat or Colback as new captain. And new leaders will emerge from some of Abeid Sammy, Dummett, Cabella Ayoze and Aarons, maybe Lascelles,

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  32. Of all strikers, my favourite choice would be Charlie Austin.
    Here is the team I want next season.
    —————–Darlow————–
    -Janmaat-Lascelles-Van dijk-Dummett-
    —————–Colback—————
    ———–Abeid——-de Jong———
    –Cabella———————-Ayoze—
    ——————Austin—————-

    Bench:Woodman, Dunk, Haidara, Pringle, Aarons, Sammy.
    Then Satka, Ghillespie, Raylor, Smith, Kemen, Roberts, Heardman, Armstrong

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  33. Troysta: you shouldn’t compare yourself to an irritating housefly. You are much more like a mangy dog following people around looking for attention.

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  34. Oh dear god, someone trying to be optimistic still puts Dummett in the starting xi, we really are ****ed way beyond my vision

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  35. Chola: what about the team for tomorrow though? I think it will be the team that started against Arsenal except possibly Abeid for Anita. Carver’s hands are pretty much tied with our injuries. The only other option I can see is Jonas at left back and move Colback to Centre-Mid to hassle Clattermole.

    I very much doubt Armstrong will be given a start in such a charged atmosphere.

    I didn’t realize Carver was coach under Guillet. Another black mark on his CV.

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  36. Psychs

    Here’s me sticking up for you as well. 😆

    You remind me of pet gerbil that we had. I never wanted one but the kids ground me down. They promised they would pay it attention, clean it out and buy it’s food.

    I gave in at the end and bought one. As I predicted within a short period they paid no attention to it.

    After 3 years and no children’s attention it died of old age and I remind the kids of child neglect.

    You remind me of that gerbil. Knawing at the cage with no chance of escape.

    You do that on here. Chew on and no one takes a blind jot of notice. 😆

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  37. Troysta: just joking man. You might want to look up the meaning of “child neglect”. Them not looking after a gerbil is not it 🙂

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  38. I see Carvs is bigging himself up again for the job fulltime:

    “I would like to think that some of the stuff I have done is already on the way to making me, but in the eyes of the fans if you win a derby game, it is massive.”

    He does this at every press conference and his record and the teams displays seem to make no difference. He is exactly what we don’t need: another delusional idiot who talks shyte. Troysta where are you 🙂

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  39. Unfortunately Eric old bean, Parver is EXACTLY the type of ‘head coach’ that fatty pigswill wants.
    He talks a good match, gets the fans on board, and carries on with the same old tripe as always.
    Mash can’t believe his luck really.
    Luvly jubbly.

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  40. Anyhow it sounds to me like Parver is putting everything on the result tomorrow.
    A win, any win, no matter how shyte we may be, will get him the job.
    He seems confident about that.
    Good luck to him on that one. 😕
    He has the players rooting for him, so it should be one hell of a game.
    I can’t wait.
    HOWAY the LADS
    TOON TOON

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  41. I want us to beat blunderland, just to break the bad run we have had against them under Pardew.
    Plus I am enjoying seeing them sweat it out in 17th place :mrgreen:
    Its been too long since I got to rip the piss out of the sad inbreds tw@ts at work too.
    They need to crawl back under their stones, where they belong.
    Defeat is NOT an option in this one.

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  42. J J – yes.
    I refer to the pre FA cup hype he put out.
    How many fans travelled to witness that ****e ?
    Over 4000 or something.
    Not even so much as an apology.

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  43. Getting back to Carver. I am seeing reports that the derby is make or break for him? He was partly responsible for the appalling performances of the past few years and has shown nothing so far that would suggest any improvement. How many chances does this man need, he has already proved himself, proved himself to be incompetent that is.

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  44. Troy, I have told you before now, it’s time to get over me! I have found you lacking in every department and I had to let you go!
    Please stop mentioning me in every post you write or I will have to get a restraining order! 😳

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  45. Eric@352, thanks for that excellent article mate. Some excellent points in there, and having lived in Germany quite a while now I feel I’m quite up to speed with the Bundesliga… I don’t, or didn’t consider Favre fully out of our reach, until the last posting in the article….

    “There are strong rumours of Newcastle interest in Favre, with the Swiss also seen as a candidate to replace Guardiola at Bayern.”…….

    Having seen the way Pep fawned over Favre BEFORE the recent BMG win at the Arroganz Arena, then it’s clear that Pep thinks the world of him, Sammer, Hoeness et al too… Once the sheiks start opening the cheque book again to lure Pep to Man City then he really could be a candidate for FC Bayern :-(. He has the age and experience to carry it off, there is a link between him and BMG via the old FC Bayern star trainer Juupp Heynkes…..hmmm…….

    Still can’t see past Carver to be honest, wor lot don’t possess the wherewithall to lure a Tuchel, Favre or De Boor to the toon.. they think money is the be-all and end-all of everything and that money talks…. ahem…wrong. Sporting achievement is up there too… life in the Geordie Fishbowl…. 🙄

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  46. Eric, did you end up getting a ticket for any of the games, or will you be too busy rediscovering the sights and sounds of the north east of England… ?

    Must say you seem to have developed quite a deft back-hand there 😆 😆

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  47. MM: might get to Spurs. I will see if my nephew can get a ticket. Not just a NE, off to Lakes, Yorks and Weybridge. Here for 5 weeks and could not stand to stay in a rundown old pit village that used to be my home for that long. Everything has changed and the place is deed.

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  48. Huffstar

    I love it. I always know you are one step away from another humongous hissy fit. I love seeing if I can set you off again. 😆

    In fact, I’ve never needed to try lately, Stuart has done it for me. Great viewing watching Stuart putting you in your box. 😛

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  49. And there it is again…he can’t stop, he can’t get over the fact that his man crush is not reciprocated… I have told you many a time..I am married and I don’t like moronic troy boys…

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