Mike Ashley now sick of Saudi takeover saga? – Now he knows how we’ve felt for 13 years..

After weeks of wondering, it’s been widely reported that a £300m Saudi-backed takeover will be announced ‘this week’.

Last night, however, a concerning report from The Guardian claimed new legal documents had been sent to the Premier League which threaten to delay the deal even further.

Predictably, an article has now arrived from the Daily Mail today, stating that Mike Ashley is “growing increasingly annoyed” by the time it’s taking for this big money buyout to be concluded, stating he expected the deal to be wrapped up ‘at least two weeks ago’.

For starters, he won’t be nearly as frustrated as us fans. He’s a billionaire who’s been relaxing in a family mansion in Miami as he waits for his £300m to arrive, all while us Newcastle fans sit in self-isolation biting our fingernails and refreshing Twitter every 5 minutes, as we desperately await official confirmation of a deal that could revolutionise our sleeping giant of a football club for the better.

That’s not even the main part of it all, however.

If he thinks waiting a few more weeks for the ‘good news’ is annoying, he should try living in our shoes for the past 13 years. We’ve pumped our hard earned money, precious time and all of our emotions into this football club for over a decade – all to see it go absolutely nowhere thanks to one man’s greed and neglect.

Just about every generation have become disillusioned, lost hope or fallen out of love with their club. Teenagers on Tyneside know nothing but a miserable Mike Ashley era and fans who were brought up on the competitive Keegan days forced to sit through TWO relegations and constant scraps for survival. We’re the only ones who should be frustrated here, Mike.

Not only that, this is a man who refuses to communicate, making his “annoyance” at any delay and a lack of progress laughable. What about the time you left us in limbo for MONTHS last summer when we were waiting for news on a takeover, a new deal for Rafa Benitez or a permanent deal for Salomon Rondon, Mike?! We were given no guidance and then no hope, with all three possible deals coming to nothing.

This isn’t the first time either. How many takeover sagas have we been forced to sit through for months on end – only to be let down time and time again. Periods of uncertainty which ultimately end in disappointment are something us fans have become all too used to, sadly, so it’s about time that ended.

Thankfully, it’s well documented that contracts have been signed, deposits paid and all the terms agreed ahead of this Staveley-led takeover involving the Saudis, so it’s no longer in Mike Ashley’s hands.

If the Premier League approve the deal – which I still think they will – and the £300m then arrives into Ashley’s bank account, there’s nothing he can do.

It shows his petulant nature that he’s become annoyed by a two-week wait at a time where this global crisis has slowed everything down. This is the same man who’s refusing to stop season ticket payments or refund fans hit badly by COVID-19, despite the fact football at St James’ Park will clearly not be returning anytime soon.

We all want this takeover to be announced ASAP for our own sanity, but it’s almost amusing that Mike Ashley is finally getting a taste of his own medicine after he’s constantly ignored and completely neglected us for 13 years.

The sooner we get this parasite out of our football club, the better.

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About Olly Hawkins

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375 thoughts on “Mike Ashley now sick of Saudi takeover saga? – Now he knows how we’ve felt for 13 years..

  1. Is the public’s appetite for football content just insatiable? It has created a whole new industry of explayers spouting off about anything and everything. It just seems like a conveyer belt producing a combination of bland and outrageous. You have yer Michael Owens who are on because of their footballing history who can get the gig even though he is boring, boring, boring. Then you have average or less players who have to say controversial things just to get noticed. You even have Chairmen and of course Managers in on the act.

    Has it got to the point of information overload? There were always the papers but now they are doing podcasts and youtube videos. Talk Radio has expanded. Then of course there are blogs where there are many for every PL team. And news aggregators like Newsnow who make sure you don’t miss a single story. Then there is TV. 24 hour Sky and even ESPN and BT and even Amazon with streaming. You have the Qatari Govt pumping out content with BEin sports who specialize in washed out ex-managers.

    With there being so many of these pundits do most of them really add anything now? Am I bothered what Micah Richards has to say? Or Alan Hutton, or Craig Burley? I barely remember them as players and instantly forget what they have to say now.

    And of course there is the Gary Neville with his own podcast. He has an opinion on everything, but when do we start to tune him out as just background noise? When you talk on every topic at some point the messages you want to matter gets lost – like a boy crying wolf.

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  2. Why are journalists still quoting fees pre Covid-19? Nobody knew if these were realistic then, let alone now. In a world where Barcelona players have taken a 75% cut in their wages, where the club say there is now a 200 million Euro hole in their finances and where they need to sell Coutinho and Griezmann to make ends meet, the quotes for Harry Kane at 200 million are still bandied about.

    Transfermkt pretty much reduced their player valuations by 30% across the board. I am not even sure if this is enough because even the elite clubs are suffering and the PL had dragged up fees for 2nd and 3rd tier players. Is Paul Pogba really worth 120 million in this climate (was he before 🙂 ).

    With the French League cancelled, will any of their teams be able to demand the same fees quoted in January? I would say that Bournemouth would be lucky to survive this with 86% of last years revenue going on wages. So, with no buyers, how will the prices hold up? Supply and Demand is the first concept anybody learns in a basic economics course.

    And yet the papers merrily go on quoting transfer fees as if nothing has happened. Have they looked out their windows FFS. Nobody is on the streets and the few that are are wearing facemasks.

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  3. There’s really a lot of sources now claiming the deal’s been done! Even Bruce has been quoted as saying he’d love it to happen and wants to be part of it. If he doesn’t care about an Ashley backlash then the fat one has probably gone already.

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  4. georgio:
    There’s really a lot of sources now claiming the deal’s been done! Even Bruce has been quoted as saying he’d love it to happen and wants to be part of it. If he doesn’t care about an Ashley backlash then the fat one has probably gone already.

    You’re right georgio. The official company line has always been “no comment”. The Chronic has actually stated that in every intro on their Chronic Live thread for about 2 months. This is a total break from the official stance so he knows it is done. Some of the players were dropping hints as well.

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  5. Bruce has backed himself to do a job at NUFC with better players. I have seen a couple of polls so just checked the latest to see what fans think. Ed Harrison has a poll with over 30,000 respondents and 9% want Bruce. The Mag did one that got a couple of thousand responses of whether Bruce should stay or go. 98% said go.

    I bet if you polled journos and pundits over 50% would say he DESERVES a chance. Maybe they should have watched more of our games?

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  6. I see Man Utd have made a loss this quarter and their debt has gone up 40% to over £400m! That needs serviced and the next year or two their income is coming down quite significantly.

    This is a good example of why transfer fees will drop and we will be in a rather splendid position…

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  7. Is this a good day for takeover news? What are the latest positive rumours.?Saudi flyovers of the ground? Large quantities of sand being shipped to the NorthEast? This would be funny if it wasn’t so frustrating. This shouldn’t be taking this long, even in a pandemic. Someone or some group within football are clearly trying to prevent it happening but where does that leave us? Harrumph……

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  8. Stuart79:
    I see Man Utd have made a loss this quarter and their debt has gone up 40% to over £400m! That needs serviced and the next year or two their income is coming down quite significantly.

    This is a good example of why transfer fees will drop and we will be in a rather splendid position…

    Stu: I went on a bit of a rant yesterday about quoted transfer fees for players. The papers are acting like nothing has changed during the lockdown. Everything has changed and the Man U loss is yet more evidence that prices will not be the same. The fact that Barca have to shift Coutinho and/or Greizzman to make ends meet tells you the whole valuation metric for players will have changed.

    Tranfermarkt slashed valuations by 30%. I reckon it would be nearer half off, so whereas Man U were talking 120 mil for Pogba in January, I think probably 60 mil now. And would Villa really get 70-80 million for Grealish in this market? How many England caps does he have?

    There was also talk of more swaps because clubs are strapped for cash. I think it is more likely to be more loans. That is why I thought/think we might be able to loan Coutinho as Barca want his wages off the books and there are likely to be few takers for a permanent transfer until this settles down a bit. We don’t know the effect on world economies yet.

    A lot of clubs have a lot of dross on their books as well that they have to pay. Jordan Ibe for example. With reduced income they will not have the money for transfers and I doubt the banks will be willing to up their over drafts.

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  9. Eric, if Man Utd don’t qualify for the CL they will lose £75m in total according to the media. That’s a fair bit of money…

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  10. Stuart79:
    Eric, if Man Utd don’t qualify for the CL they will lose £75m in total according to the media. That’s a fair bit of money…

    I looked at what was said in the Man U conference call which they have to do since they are traded on a stock exchange. The loss only included 18 days of CV-19 and they were very pessimistic for what is happening in the near term pointing to reduced gate money and TV money. They make quite a lot of money off these 2 items. Said this would have a lasting effect on revenue.

    I actually expect them to be in the Champions League. They have played much better since Fernandez came in and will have Rashford back. If they can straighten out Pogba they have a very good 1st team. He has all the skills, but his Billy big balls and Instagram star attitude holds him back.

    I reckon they will compromise with City and give them a 1 year European ban and City will accept as who knows what the CL will look like next year. So Man U will only have to be 5th.

    Liverpool are baulking at Timo Werner for his buyout of 52 million. That tells the state of the transfer market. I watched him quite a few times and the lad is brilliant. That would have been a no-brainer before CV-19.

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  11. So Neil Custis is now weighing in and saying there will be an announcement around June 1 because the PL has Project Restart as their priority. He is The Sun Manchester correspondent and although he is from Newcastle I am thinking this is pure speculation. He is most famous for being called Fat Man by Louis van Gaal in a press conference. Blamed his weight on a dodgy knee (yeah we know, excuses) and then went on a diet getting charity sponsored for every pound he lost. Good cause, but it was funny watching him squirm at the time. I think he has put back on the weight he lost.

    I just had to relate the “fat man” story again. I cant recall many other personal insults towards reporters by Managers in a press conference. Joe Kinnear with his sweary rant. I think that was at Simon Bird and that lives in press conference folk law as well.

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  12. FFS The Independent seem to be on a crusade against the NUFC takeover. Now they have some other human rights organization saying we, as fans, need to take personal responsibility and stand up to the barbarians. The article is interesting in that the previous examples of sports washing it uses are the Argentina WC in 1982 and the Russian Olympics. No mention of Abramovic, or Man City, or PSG or even the supposed bid by PIF for Man U. As seems usual now for The Independent they are cherry picking the examples to show NUFC and its fans in the worst light, and ignoring the relevant examples of the recent past in football.

    It might have something to do with the Saudi investment in their paper. Perhaps Miguel Delaney and his pals should just find new jobs and stop acting like teenagers railing against their step-dad.

    https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/newcastle-united-takeover-latest-saudi-arabia-sportswashing-a9526626.html

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  13. Stuart: this is a CV-19 induced financial calamity for the bottom half of the PL. The big teams will be OK but will have to adjust to the new normal for at least 2 years. Their income will be down by probably 20-25% but they will survive by cutting transfer spending and letting high earners’ contracts expire. The bottom half who have paid out most of their earnings in iron-clad contracts to players are in big trouble. It is a perfect storm of:

    – reduced TV money

    – no gate money

    – no lucrative pre-season trips to USA and China

    – low bids for shirt sponsorship on renewal

    – the 65 million a year from Nike for Liverpool shirts will be the high water mark for at least a decade.

    – is Daniel Levy really going to get 30 mil a year to name the Spurs stadium?

    – not even any rock concerts in the stadiums for the foreseeable future.

    Bournemouth is the poster child for all of this. If they get relegated I can see administration in their future. Any team relegated this year face a bleak future. Burnley, Watford, Palace and S’ton will not fare much better even without relegation. When the TV and sponsorship money ends the merry-go-round stops.

    That’s why we, NUFC, can make a big leap almost immediately and propel ourselves into the top 6. Getting good players at half off because there is no competition in the transfer market. It will be back to when Abramovic bought Chelsea and bought the league. He really had very little competition for players. Now we cannot make the mistake City made and keep an average (or worse) manager out of some misguided loyalty and what his pals in the media say about him.

    #BruceOutNow

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  14. I see the idea of promotion and relegation being determined by points per game is being put forward. Seems fair enough. But is it? Points gained will be influenced by home games played or not played and games played or not played against the top teams. I could foresee a team relegated on a narrow difference going to law. Brighton were not happy about remaining games being played on neutral grounds because of the number of home games outstanding.

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  15. Groucho:
    I see the idea of promotion and relegation being determined by points per game is being put forward.Seems fair enough. But is it? Points gained will be influenced by home games played or not played and games played or not played against the top teams. I could foresee a team relegated on a narrow difference going to law. Brighton were not happy about remaining games being played on neutral grounds because of the number of home games outstanding.

    Groucho:

    PPG seems the safest and bset solution to me, plus it means villa go down 😉

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  16. League 1 decision on how to end the season is to be made next week.
    The most likely outcome is for the final positions to be decided on points per game . This would mean Wycombe , currently eighth , but with a game in hand , would go into the play off places with Peterborough dropping to seventh and Sunderland dropping to eighth.
    The teams in the play off positions will play to determine the third promotion place.
    Peterborough and Sunderland are among those clubs who will vote for the season to be played to the finish but it seems more teams want to follow league 2 and end the season now.
    If I had a vote it would be to end the season now and allow the mackems to enjoy a third season in league 1.

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  17. Get this p!ssing takeover announced FFS!! Talk Ashley is getting restless now 🤦🏼‍♂️ We can’t be that unlucky to get that close only to have it snatched away can we????

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  18. Sharpy – it doesn’t matter how restless Jabba is getting a he’s signed a contract and it will have been subject to PL approval. He can only get out of it if they reject it. If they don’t and it passes and they send him the cash he’s gone.

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  19. Has anybody been to the opera? Les Miserables, or An Inspector calls?

    Or any other boring play in the West End?

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  20. We need social distancing to continue for The West End – and specifically An Inspector Calls and Les Miserables.

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  21. Worst Movies in the world:

    Anything with Kenneth Branagh. Especially with a beard.

    Anything with Emma Thompson

    Pooty Tang

    Star Wars.

    Overacting Sirs… playing butlers, serial killers and gays.

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  22. I see Pochettino has been doing interviews today. He wants to stay in the PL and is open to a project. Which top six clubs are going to have a vacancy in the next couple of months? Liverpool – no! Man Utd – No. Chelsea – No. Leicester – No. Man City – No. I’ll leave Sheff Utd out and add Arsenal to the list and that’s a no too. Realistically which club, in the PL that is about to have a project is there? Mmmm

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  23. What happens to the manager will be the first idea we get of ambitions of the new owners. I personally don’t expect this to be like a Chelsea or City takeover. I don’t expect hundreds of millions spent but I don’t think they will buy NCL to finish 10th. Not much point in that. I would settle for a club that has a infrastructure and a competitive commercial dept that was under pressure to increase revenue every year and a football dept that was under pressure to improve the football every year.

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  24. Stu – I hope you are right re Ashley. I just keep getting this horrible pangs in my gut that we get left with him.

    Regarding the top 6 – you’re right. But Man Utd SHOULD be taking him – they won’t because they’ve backed themselves into a corner with OGS. They hired him listening to fans and former players and they’ll have to wait for them to turn on him before they can replace him now imo.
    He could be having a stinker, but if the fans are still with him, they’ll find it hard to boot him out – largely because of the bad appointments they’ve made since Fergie.

    If Poch has ambitions to one day manager Real Madrid, then I think the project of building NUFC into a top 6, European footy (dare I say win a cup) that would certainly enhance his chances.

    That might sound negative, like we’re a stepping stone club again. But so what. If Poch gets the Real job off the back of NUFC, that would mean he’d have got us where we all want to be. Managers come and go and if he leaves us as a top 6 side, in Europe, with mega rich owners – im pretty sure we wouldn’t struggle attracting another top manager.

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  25. Some NUFC fans make me laugh like.

    They slaughter Danny Rose, then when he comes out and says he wants to go to Leicester they slaughter him for being disrespectful and disloyal 😂.

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  26. I wonder if the Saudis are being super smart about the timing of this announcement.
    Do it now and it’s all the press have to write about. But wait til they announce the season will start and the PL is back up and running and it won’t go unnoticed, but it would avoid the intense coverage it would get by making it before the footy start again.

    I fully expect them to allow Bruce to see out the season, and start Poch after that. It gives them time to get everything laid out right.

    They know not everyone in the UK will be welcoming them with open arms, so by delaying it could reduce some of that negativity- or certainly the media coverage of the negativity at least.

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  27. Not sure about that Sharpy. Assuming the tests are passed (big if) It’ll take a long while for the actual transfers of funds. Ramadan, Eid, bank holiday etc I expect next weekend it’ll all be announced. Worth the wait!

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  28. Charlie: lets get to the best 115 mil we have spent. And no home grown. Some are Geordies but we had to buy them back…

    Dubravka

    Natrass Shearer Beardsley Shearer

    Rob Lee Beardsley Batty

    Gazza for 1 and a half seasons

    Shearer

    Sir Les

    Kimtoon’s Ginola

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  29. Have any of you watched the Blackburn Shearer before he did his knee in at NUFC? FCKN hell, It was just give the ball to Alan and let him let loose. What a player as Andy Gray would have said before he got involved with the c2nt (hairy hands).

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  30. The takeover is complete!!! I have the paperwork right here…… wait….. it was right here… I just put it down for a second…now, don’t panic lads I’ll find it……. Everybody stop what they’re doing and help me look for the paperwork!!!

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  31. In these toxic (tonic) times we all have to keep our mind on our money and our money on our mind. Or whatever Snoop said. Gin and Juice.

    I got b!tches in the living room and they aint leevin til six in the morning.

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  32. Eric Sykes:
    Got some G2.

    Lewandowski. Werner etc

    Eric – I was watching it this afternoon. Was saying Goetze can leave Dortmund at the end of the season – I would defo take him as part of our project.
    I’d also take back Kevin Mbabu – he looked head and shoulders better than any of our RBs we have now.

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  33. Shamrock:
    Mbabu is a strange one, I don’t recall many people understanding why he was ever sold.

    Sham – when he played he was excellent, still very young but looked full of promise. Then he had a couple of injuries and I can only think the club thought those injuries would hamper his career.
    That doesn’t seem to have been the case though and he developed at Young Boys and looks top notch at Wolfsburg now.

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  34. georgio:
    Not sure about that Sharpy. Assuming the tests are passed (big if) It’ll take a long while for the actual transfers of funds. Ramadan, Eid, bank holiday etc I expect next weekend it’ll all be announced. Worth the wait!

    Hopefully next week then mate 🤞🏼

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  35. DEFO – GT 🙂

    That always makes me laugh. It has the first 3 letters right and then veers off into an “O” land that doesn’t exist in the original word.

    Newkie Brown does the same.

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  36. Our owners and directors test is what it is, it’s there for everyone to see. We will be talking about this on a confidential basis when we get to these issues.

    That’s a quote from the PL. Looks like they’ve barely started the tests.

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  37. georgio:
    Our owners and directors test is what it is, it’s there for everyone to see. We will be talking about this on a confidential basis when we get to these issues.

    That’s a quote from the PL. Looks like they’ve barely started the tests.

    Why was he even talking about it? He’s effectively preempted a situation that he shouldn’t even be talking about. Doesn’t sound very responsible to me.

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  38. Watching Sunday Supplement on Sky this morning and what a bunch of hypocritical to$$ers these journalists are!!.

    Talking about players going back and the concerns they have and their stance is ‘you can’t say just coz they get paid all this money that they should just get on with it’.

    Well yes we can, because 1. there are some people who have worked right through on far less money and far less protection than these footballers will get. 2. Their non playing colleagues have been furloughed on 80% of their wages while the players continued to receive 100%. The German players are doing it, so why wouldn’t we?!.

    Then they move on to a post match interview Harland gave after the Dortmund game – apparently he was giving one word answers in the latter part of the interview – probably coz he’s a young lad who wants to go celebrate the win with his teammates rather than answer stupid f@cking questions.
    But guess what the journalists take on that was … ‘The lad has to understand his responsibility and accept that he’s not paid all this money just to play football’.

    and those comments were made about 10 mins apart. Stupid bloody idiots.

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  39. Time for Cummings to go me thinks.
    A long 250 plus mile journey to take when suffering from suspected covid with your wife and child.
    I have yet to meet a 4 year old who can hold their bladder on a journey that long. I’m betting they made a stop at services along the way, possibly infecting others if they were as ill as his partner has said.
    They lived with the child in Durham as well having food dropped off by a relative, could they not get food delivered in London !
    On his money they could of employed a nanny/private nurse to care for the child if needed.
    It’s all ******* .

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  40. Kim – I feel like this is all turning into one big witch hunt and Sophie Ridge was really quite pathetic this morning with Shapps.

    This wasn’t like the medical officer in Scotland heading off to her holiday home on a weekend for sh!ts and giggles. Cummings and his wife were both ill and clearly had concerns regarding the care and well being of their child. I don’t see this as a blatant disregard of the lockdown.
    I’m sure in the position he is in, it was a difficult call but as parents it should be seen as a very easy call – if he and his wife were ill, you make the journey for that support network.

    We don’t know that he stopped at a service station – the kid may have peed at the side of the road, if at all. The journey would be around 4 hrs – it’s not inconceivable that a 4 yr old slept through the whole journey and peed at the other end.

    A witness said they saw someone that looked like Cummings in Barnard Castle – I had a science teacher that looked like Cummings (genuinely).

    He DIDNT stay with his elderly parents as suggested. He was in a completely separate house nearby.

    I don’t think the government have been brilliant throughout this as you know. But I hate stupid witch hunts that distract from actual issues – and I hate pompous journalists.

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  41. https://youtu.be/PGXqZuci1QA

    Kim – look at these morons hounding Cummings, goading him, desperate for something, anything from him … absolute parasites – and not one of them social distancing as they follow him round the car.

    It’s a pathetic witch hunt from a bunch of hypocrites.

    This isn’t news, it’s bullying!!.

    We have learned nothing from the death of Caroline Flack imo. These lot hound Cummings get him the sack and then what?. They don’t want to break news, they want to break people.

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  42. Media and political establishment are now completely feral. Cummins didn’t break the law and based on government guidelines involving a young child they acted perfectly reasonably. This is pay back. Cummins doesn’t like the media and he lets them know. His political opponents don’t like him and they’re using this as perfect opportunity to score points. Sad in every way. Hope Boris stays strong and gives the media one massive **** you!

    Not a coincidence the papers are Guardian, Mirror and Observer that led this stitch up.

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  43. It seems we are now getting linked with every has-been and overly priced “used to be good” player under the sun… Higuain? Really? He’s 32 and couldn’t score for Chelsea, how could he do a job for us? Cavani? Bale? … can we get linked with some younger exciting players too please?

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  44. Sharpy – I’ve only just realised the Mirror’s allegation of Cummins being at Barnard Castle is based on a witness who said they saw someone “who looked like Dominic Cummins”. 😂😂😂 No wonder the general public have no respect for the media now. They’re embarrassing.

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  45. Only one question so far on what’s actually happening regards loosening the restrictions which is actually what the public want to know about.

    Why on earth do the media believe we want to know more about Dominic Cummins sheltering his child? Their agenda is more transparent than a window I am currently looking out through.

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  46. Stuart79:
    Only one question so far on what’s actually happening regards loosening the restrictions which is actually what the public want to know about.

    Why on earth do the media believe we want to know more about Dominic Cummins sheltering his child? Their agenda is more transparent than a window I am currently looking out through.

    So Prime Minister are you telling the British public that you condone Mr Cummings being a responsible parent???.

    What’s as equally ridiculous is that nobody from the government has come out and said this?!. Had he made the journey without a valid reason, hang him out. But anyone who says they wouldn’t do the same in his position, I’m not sure I’d believe them and I’d certainly question where their priorities lie.

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  47. Well i think it was very unwise to travel so far whilst ill and in a confined space with a small child

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  48. It seems sometime the public castigate politicians who are “on the other side” Just to make a political point, and forget that they too are just human beings. Nobody should be losing their job over trying to keep his family safe in a way he thought best.

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  49. Sharpy, If you read the account of his wife, she said he rushed home to be with her as she was ill and that he said he felt weird and then collapsed .
    To put it in context, he has driven whilst unwell putting his family at risk.
    When i had swine flu there is absolutely no chance in hell i would or even could of driven that far.

    And after all that they stayed in the same house as the child ! , for the sake of two weeks self isolation wouldn’t it of been better to of stayed in London with a nanny for the child ?
    It makes no sense to travel all that way.

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  50. kimtoon:
    Sharpy, If you read the account of his wife, she said he rushed home to be with her as she was ill and that he said he felt weird and then collapsed .
    To put it in context, he has driven whilst unwell putting his family at risk.
    When i had swine flu there is absolutely no chance in hell i would or even could of driven that far.

    And after all that they stayed in the same house as the child ! , for the sake of two weeks self isolation wouldn’t it of been better to of stayed in London with a nanny for the child ?
    It makes no sense to travel all that way.

    Kim – I don’t think for one second he’s gone home and said to her, I’ve had an idea luv, fancy a look up Durham this weekend, I’m bored down here.
    I agree he’s taken a risk, and where you say you couldn’t drive with swine flu – he obviously could – he did.
    Putting it into context and what was happening at the time – lots of Londoners were becoming hospitalised. If he and his wife were as poorly as suggested, they were perhaps fearful that one or both could end up hospitalised too – then what happens to the child?.
    I know you say nanny – but they didn’t have one and nannies and cleaners weren’t allowed at the time either if I remember rightly. But even if they were, would you really leave your 4 year old with a newly employed nanny if you were bedridden or hospitalised? or would you make the 4 hr journey North so the child could be with relatives?.

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  51. Toon Toon (ex Dubai Toon):
    I wish this take over would happen and that we can get back to talking about footy instead of f#*%&@ politics!

    I didn’t even know who Dominic Cummings was until today.

    Apparently, he is some cross-bred version of Adolf Hitler and Marco Polo who goes on long drives.

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  52. Sharpy17: Kim – I don’t think for one second he’s gone home and said to her, I’ve had an idea luv, fancy a look up Durham this weekend, I’m bored down here.
    I agree he’s taken a risk, and where you say you couldn’t drive with swine flu – he obviously could – he did.
    Putting it into context and what was happening at the time – lots of Londoners were becoming hospitalised.If he and his wife were as poorly as suggested, they were perhaps fearful that one or both could end up hospitalised too – then what happens to the child?.
    I know you say nanny – but they didn’t have one and nannies and cleaners weren’t allowed at the time either if I remember rightly.But even if they were, would you really leave your 4 year old with a newly employed nanny if you were bedridden or hospitalised? or would you make the 4 hr journey North so the child could be with relatives?.

    Sharpy, and what of the single parents who got covid? what happens to their kids if they get ill and end up in hospital ?
    Boris quite clearly said at start of lockdown that if you have symptoms you have to stay at home and not meet anyone or any family members who do not live with you. I have been asking a few people today and not one remembers him adding ‘ unless you have childcare issues’ to that statement.
    I spoke with the healthcare people about what happens to Lew if i got it and went in, they said he would be taken into a unit until i recovered. I suggested his sister could move in here but they were not happy about it. So how can driving all that way be a better idea.

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  53. Sharpy, re your ref to Caroline Flack and bullying of Cummings.
    Did anyone care when Alistair Campbell was being bullied by the media ? after all, this was a man with known mental health problems.
    And what of the relentless attacks on Corbyn, it was totally over the top
    And Diane Abbot got more than her fair share too
    So did Kinnock when he went to visit his dad
    It’s not just the tories who get bullied

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  54. They could of stayed in london, and had their child driven to relatives in Durham by one of number 10’s security team if they both went into hospital .
    Apparently his wife has a sister in london too.

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  55. Any news you lot? Don’t worry, I’ll stay right on top of it. Totally alert her. Count on me to….zzzzzzzzzzz

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  56. cough!! What? I errm meant totally alert here. Now where was I? Oh yes, I was saying how I’m going to watch for news for everyone 24 hours a day. I’ve got me cup of tea and some biscuits and I’m feeling really fresh! Now mmmm where was that biscuit bit I dropped?…..zzzzzzzz

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  57. kimtoon:
    Sharpy, re your ref to Caroline Flack and bullying of Cummings.
    Did anyone care when Alistair Campbell was being bullied by the media ? after all, this was a man with known mental health problems.
    And what of the relentless attacks on Corbyn, it was totally over the top
    And Diane Abbot got more than her fair share too
    So did Kinnock when he went to visit his dad
    It’s not just the tories who get bullied

    Kim – I don’t remember condoning any of those either, or suggesting it was just the tories who get bullied.

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  58. I just have to stay awake until June 1st apparently. That’s the new big day. That’s the big One Eric. They’ll drop the final message and we’ll know the answer. I’m prepping for staying awake now with deep knee bends and heavy breathing and snorting……..zzzzzzzzz

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  59. Ahhhh! Now I’ve drooled on meself again. There must be a way to keep sharp. Could I flay my back while listening to Grunge? That might work for a bit. I’ll look up some old Kurt Cobain…….

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