It's oh so quiet. Shhh... Shhh
I also said how surprised that with just one week to go we still hold that accolade, so I thought I’d take a look at it and see just what is going on.
So far in this window a total of £18.4m has been spent by Premier League clubs according to Sky Sports, with the bulk of that figure coming from the transfers of Papiss Demba Cisse to us and Gary Cahill to Chelsea. Beyond that though not a lot of clubs are doing anything which is in stark contract to last January when a total of £215m was spent. It would take some serious investment for this window to equal the last one!
What is causing this though? Do clubs, in general,not have the cash they once had? Are they keeping their powder dry for the latter stages of the window? Are they watching the purse strings in anticipation of these much talked about Financial Fair Play Rules coming into play?
I don’t know. There are clubs who have been told that they must sell before they buy. Tottenham are one of them and they love to do a deal in January. It’s why Sky love Harry Redknapp. Liverpool are very quiet also. Perhaps Dalglish’s boss is less than impressed with the players bought for the best part of £150m? Alex Ferguson insists he is not really looking in January as you can’t get any value, which is odd for a club the size of Manchester United, and Arsenal are just Arsenal.
Pretty much none of the big hitters have done anything yet, but the thing that strikes me is that they don’t look likely to do anything. Rumours are thin on the ground and whilst it’s not a complete picture it’s a marked contrast to previous seasons.
The obvious fact is that these big hitters can just go out and splash the cash at very short notice, or at least they used to be able to, so things could change at very short notice. I don’t envisage the transfer window ending with so little cash spent. Only 18 deals have been completed and eight clubs are still yet to sign anybody. It’s quiet, very quiet.
I just hope it stays that way!
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arry busy at the mo at court
kennys in the huff after keegan had a “go”at his past signings,the gunners sign nee one in jan,fergie will not sign anyone as his target wont leave until summer,city been told to shift some oot,that only leaves chelsea of the big guns,so dont think we will lose any except simpson 
right that’s that then.
next thread please.
Prem
Skip – Ref your comment from last article. Defo nowt to do with me or the site mate. Just a quirk of the internet. As soon as you log onto the web someone somewhere has your details.
I agree that the FFP is coming into play. The small clubs are holding out for cash that they do not expect to get in the future. Some EPL ones in debt can’t go deeper in the red. No one wants to buy anyone perceived as having too big a contract. No one wants to get stuck with players leaving on a Bosman. Maybe money bags Manc have scarred everyone off trying to buy to catch them. BEcause of this, I don’t see NUFC getting a defender this window. so, put your strategy cap on AP!
I think they’re just keeping their powder dry, if Man Utd don’t win the league, they’ll spend big, Citeh will regardless and Chelski will trying to make up ground. Arsenal will get a new manager and he’ll get cash to spend and Kenny may keep his job but he’s not even trusted to do the butty run at bait time now
…….that said, one snowball this window could start the avalanche 
i rekon the window might come to life in the next few days..
fk nos why clubs always leave it late
Shaquiri in tenerife for training, deal gone through this afternoon# MUGS
I honestly believe clubs just don’t have the money anymore.
They need to sell to buy and the players they are willing to sell are either not wanted or are too expensive for other clubs to afford…
Liverpool have spent millions on duds and perhaps want to keep funds for what could be a new manager in the summer.
Man United very seldom buy in January. Arsene is on his way out.
Man City have far too many players on their books. They must sell otherwise they’d have players without squad numbers on around 80k per week.
It all bodes well for the Toon, because our clean up and tightness with money over the past three seasons has put us in prime position.
Liam
Seriously doubt it. Why on earth would he fly out there when they return tomorrow…
Liam@8- You been on the sauce already?
I see Maynard free to talk to Wigan, still think we may have missed out on a little gem there.
JJ and kim – check out the hashtag
See Alex’s deal to go to QPR has fallen through , wouldn’t mind us trying to get him on loan for the rest of the season .
He apparently going PSG now axel
just been reading the last thread krul and tiote gone
Its going to come to life when Chelsea spend £25m on Tiote and Spurs £15m on Krul.
Who knows which club will buy Colo but I believe someone will.
TROY what aboot simpson i think he will go if anybody
FFP rules definitely having an effect – even a billionnaire is going to be pretty miffed if his plaything gets chucked out of the CL because they happened to go a smidge – say £200,000,000 – over budget.
We’re in good shape. Sadly, Spuds, Arse and Manure are all operating vaguely within revenues, so will continue to be up there. But Citeh, Chelski and QPR will be looking at their obscene, amoral owners and thinking, “oh shit – what are you for, then?”
@Batty
You look surprised.
Troy shocked as if fatty would do that
@Ice
I don’t believe anyone would offer enough money to tempt Ashley to sell Simmo.
Do you?
Troy – you love to unsettle the popular opinion
You just dont think the regime beginning to make more and more sense…. stubborn to the end
I think every Window is the same, its all quiet until one club make a move and then it all comes to life. and i’m sure it’s normally the lastweek before it all kicks off.
Some honestly believe he wouldn’t .
They’ve just been waving at me from the Dreambus!
Meant to add that I think the FFP rules mean fuk all because the big boys won’t stand for it, and UEFA dont have the balls to stand up to them
TROY there was talk of fulham/qpr,but looks like jabba isnt going to shift on his contract,plus they didnt pay a lot for him so any profit is a good profit to jabba
@Liam
I base every opinion on history and information from various sources.
If I am wrong then my opinions will change but until that window closes, I have no faith in the regime.
Let’s look at the facts. Tiote is one of the best holding midfielders in the league.
Krul is one of the best keepers in the league .
Clubs will be interested in them.
NUFC is a business.
Ashley will not turn down big money for these players.
I will be shocked, amazed, stunned if they are not sold.
pardew live on bbc newcastle at 6.15pm
Toonsy – probably to a degree but if you consider the transfers of Bent, Carroll and Torres made up just short of half of last Jans transfers. Add to that Suarez, Luiz and Dzeko and your talking in the region of £150m for 6 players.
AVB may be due some cash to spend and they are looking at that Willian for around £20m and if Drodga leaves he may spend more.
I think it will still break £100m this year with a week to go
When are we talking troy now or summer?
Of course at some point they could be sold
You just not hedging your bets?
I agree though if a big offer does come in they are gone. THey will then say guthrie and elliott are just as good
I wouldn’t be surprised if Guthrie goes, as im sure he is better than a bit part bench warmer, and I would say he would do real well with a mid league team
It always gets busy in last week with SSN supplying half of that through complete speculation
If we get to monday 30th and no one else in then i don’t think we’ll have anyone on the 31st as i don’t think they like to do deals that late except outgoers that is.
@Liam
This window.
well pardew said nowt really,only on transfers he keeping his cards close to his cheat
chest**
http://www.insidefutbol.com/2012/01/24/borussia-dortmund-ask-for-aly-cissokho-information-as-newcastle-switch-seems-dead/56827/
seems icedogs been on the broon ale again god knows what the owld fellas trying to say the drunken git
No one will buy Guthrie, because he will run down his contract and leave for nowt in the summer, picking up a muckle pay day into the bargain. Ditto Simpson …
Don’t think any of our big-hitters will leave this January, but things may happen in the summer.
Icedog, I’m sure the toon have the players lined up for if and when the fun starts in the last week of the window…. It only takes one mad signing to trigger it all off..
TROY STAVERS
is ya hand out there trying to stop the reality bus lmao
What time does it end next week, 6pm or midnight?
@Toonarmylite
You hate the fact I’m right.
Simon…neither, 2300 on the 31st……last orders at half ten tho I think
Mmm, always at the pub on a Tuesday night, they better have Sky Sports news on as I drink my pint. Cheers Richie
TROY STAVERS
il save ya seat here on the the reality bus for when you suss you chating out of what ya supposed to be siting on mate 
It’ll be midnight here when it shuts, just like the good old days
starting to panic about a centre half coming in what we dont need is a championship bench warmer coming in we already have perch for that what we need is a big quick samba type player straight out of mr carrs book of quality
Sky Sources understand that #NUFC have made a bid of £5 million for #CFC defender Alex. #SSN #transfernews
Im sorry but that aint happening
alex too old for our transfer policy and also wages would be over our limit
lee_ryder Lee Ryder
Told Newcastle have had a bid accepted for david wheater #bolton #nufc
58 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply
Ice where ever you are
are you writing for someone else 
http://nothingbutnewcastle.com/2012/01/blogs/time-for-newcastle-stalwart-to-be-shown-the-door
Batty Ryder is as reliable as cwar
you talk turd Liam
Batty easy isnt it
Instructatoon – do you read the comments?
DAVE @56 you got me sussed mate
@toonyarmylite
I invented the reality train. There’s only one mode of transport I use.
Ice I knew as soon as I read it
Troy hows the arm mate, have you still got the cast on ?
i thought troy was joking about his arm
Emmitt Delfouneso aye1 heard of this guy young kid from birminham told the boys ganna turn into a bit of a brute of a defender
@Big Dave
The cast comes off in two weeks. Then it’s back to reality and work.
Batty Troy never jokes he is always serious
Troy I bet your looking forward to that mate
Troy@67- Get ready for the big pong, my lads leg really stank when his cast came off after 8 weeks ,bloody rank awfull
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BATTY you still phone-hacking mate
Heres the latest twatter tweet Sky Sources understand that #NUFC have made a bid of £5 million for #CFC defender Alex. #SSN
Big dave – see 52
Careful you will get told off by the wise crack that is instructatoon
DAVE kna the latest one is a bid for wheater of bolton
alex off to psg
@Kimtoon
The wife is a seamstress so as soon as I got home she inserted a zip the full length of the cast.
I just take it off and do bicep curls so I don’t get muscle wastage and she throws it in the washing machine to clean.
Surgeons would gan mad if they knew.
Liam
never seen that, and it only came up on my twitter a couple of mins ago. If we were to get all the players we were bidding for we could fill the team with defenders 
Dave
wheater one was a cracker though 
Troy@76
well we have found a new c/h,its pardew
http://www.nufc.co.uk/page/News/Gallery/0,,10278~2587841,00.html?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
Ice
I seen it 
nee benny in any of the last two lots of photos,ryder tweeted to say hes in france
Ice maybe Pards could try as a striker im sure he would do as much as Strolla
Yeah I heard that but there is a few players I haven’t seen pics of.
Lads I reckon we need to sign this lad up http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NIztw-NAULQ, he’s already got the kit!
DAVE kna benny hasnt been there at any point mate there saying he in france for some cup draw,hes makeing the draw or sumit
Newkie
I heard we’re in for another frenchie, I heard Ice told Carr to check this guy out for taking our set pieces.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A1RA9mk7S8w&feature=player_embedded
DAVE
Dave
Love that guy, seen all his vids, mario kart stuff is definitely the best though
Dave@86-
Dave@86-
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Is it fair to say that Liverpool are sort of doing a Leeds and gambling on finishing in the champs league spots after spending £100m. I was having a conversation about this earlier and I couldn’t really answer where they get all that money from other than having American investors and being in lots of debt. Yet for some reason we never seem to think if they don’t finish in the top 4 (likely) that they would be in financial trouble. Why is this? Can anybody answer. Do Liverpool and Man U just have a much larger income stream to Leeds?
Is all not well at Madrid? http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/24012012/58/liga-mourinho-quit-june.html
Mourinho to take England job? I know they are looking for an Englishman, but if he’s available I cant see many people complaining.
Alternatively, if Pardew takes the job, Mourinho can come here!
DJG – I went through the Liverpool transfers a few months ago and they actually come out reasonably even interms of outgoings and incomings. It’s only the past year or so they have spent a fair bit more than they have sold on, but I dont think things are that bad them to be honest. Unfortunately!
Djg alot of there money has come through player sales if not all of that £100m
DJG-Yeah as Shamrock says, they’re not that badly off when it comes to transfers in total, and secondly yes they’re branding is far larger than leeds’. They’re probably still the second biggest team in both England and the wider world in terms of branding. Unfortunately
So they are selling good players that other top clubs want (and will pay a lot for i.e Torres) and they are then spending over the odds to take the next big thing English players from clubs like Newcastle and Sunderland. I’t a very risky strategy if you ask me, selling quality international proven players for one season wonder youngsters. It clearly isn’t working. Maybe it’s just Dogleash.
DJG – I take that back. Just looked at them again.
This season – minus £38m
Last season – plus £3.5m
2009/2010 – plus £5.6m
2008/2009 – minus £22m
2007/2009 – minus £38m
2006/2007 – minus £25m
2005/2006 – minus £22m
2004/2005 – minus £30m
2003/2004 – minus £14m
2002/2003 – minus £15.5m
Grand total of minus £195m in the last 10 years. Almost £20m a season! Ouch. I know they have a worldwide fanbase etc etc, but that must hurt?
‘Yet Guinea were caught on the hop after half an hour as Mali scored against the run of play with their first attack of note.
Striker Modibo Maiga, whose Newcastle United move broke down because of knee concerns, got to the byeline before his pullback eventually found the onrushing Traore whose powerful drive took a deflection as it whistled past Yattara.’
Meh, i’m pleased with Cisse and didn’t think we’d get a striker.
Its risky but I can’t see them every really crumbling as a club, that dream vanished when Hicks and Gilette had to fuck off, real shame really. All we can hope for is they diminish as a brand, as a an attractive force and slowly become just another average pl side.
Newkie, agreed. They are still a huge club unfortunately, but they are definaitely on the decline.
DJG @ 91, their brand is huge and therefore they get some good money that way (Merchandise sales and sponsorship). And as long as they can service the debt, they can continue to operate. That’s the problem with clubs that have gone into administration and such…just can’t service the debt. Man Utd is what, like a $1Billion in debt, but they can service it…so they can still operate. Somehow that seems wrong, but until a bank comes calling for it all at once, there’s no reason they can’t keep operating as normal.
Personally, and I don’t know why, but I keep hoping Liverpool and Man Utd’s debt catch up with them and they crash hard. But due to brand strength, that just won’t happen.
Shamrock
And they haven’t had champions league income for a few seasons now either.
Hopefully this will be 2 seasons on the trot they fail to qualify for any form of European footy too. I think we have a real chance of taking their place on the Continent next season if lady luck smiles on us a bit…
Watched the Cardiff v Palace game tonight.
Didn’t think much of Clyne, didnt look any better than Simpson IMO
Zaha looked alright but not worth the money that’s been mentioned for him.
The lad Scanell who came on looked a canny turn tho
NorCal Toonfan
January 24, 2012 at 23:04
‘Man Utd is what, like a $1Billion in debt, but they can service it…so they can still operate. Somehow that seems wrong, but until a bank comes calling for it all at once, there’s no reason they can’t keep operating as normal.’
But surely they are just the same as me or you, or a government ect. The more and more money they owe the more interest the bank is going to want to service the debt and it gets to the point where they are just paying interest and not the actual amount back; it can’t be healthy and it’s hardly a strong financial position to be in. I don’t care how many Man U t-shirts and baseball caps they are selling in Singapore.
Newkie @99 they will with ‘King’ Kenny Dullglitch at the tiller. If Jose wanted to come back would all be forgiven? Hmmmm….
Tsunki-Aye that’s the hope
And hopefully he won’t get the sack because of his ridiculously godlike status, that’s all we can hope for until he eventually takes the bullet and saves some pride.
And when they bring in another high profile manager they’ll want to completely revamp the squad and likely get a couple of foreigners in and ship out the shite “english talent” they’ve been landed with. All very expensive stuff
I certainly wouldn’t forgive him, but hey if he wants to bench warm and take a pay cut he’s welcome to it
Y’know I used to think ol’ Juan Sheet was a dirty money runner but in hindsight I’m beginning to think the young lad had his head turned by the Joey Nolans who probably told him to go to fairy scouseland for his health. If, say, he begged to come back and Kenny was forced to selling him back to us for 4Mil would I have him. Let me th..Yep! If I were kenny boy I would seriously put downing in charge of the burger van outside the ground cos thats the only way to get any money back for that pile.
BTW is everybody absolutely convinced that the Cisshoko deal is totally out of the window now? Could we all be caught hoggers down with this one as well?
I would take him back if he appologised and admitted he was wrong in leaving, but lets face it it wouldn’t happen anyway. He’s on big money and Lpool definitely won’t sell him for cheap as he’s still playing well for them. Santon should hopefully become a better player than him all round, and if we can bring in an equally cheap and able right back we’ll have no need of jose anyway.
True – time marches on but he’d be a good sub
And as far as Ciss goes, can’t see it myself. If we don’t bring in a cheap CB we won’t bring in anyone imo. Unless we sell.
Am I right in saying that NUFC have quite a sizeable marketing presence abroad? More so than some of the ‘Big’ clubs in some countries?
Tsunki-we certainly used to, when I was about 7 I moved to singapoore and on arrival I managed to find the figures of our 1997-1998 squad on sale, with the only other club being man united
When I moved to Aus a couple of years later we were fairly well known there, although people thought people with geordie accents were Irish or Scottish usually 
They were in the good times though..you’ll still find toon shirts around the place, but as far as breaking into “new” markets like China, I don’t really know if we’ve had any success at all. No doubt we’ve been losing ground to teams like spurs and city and possibly even Villa.
DJG @ 105…you’re right, it’s not healthy, but as long as they can pay the interest, then what’s to worry about? Like I said, I think the only time it would become an issue is if the bank comes calling for the full amount. The problem with Greece, Portugal and others in the Eurozone, was the fact that the governments couldn’t even service their debt…so they were relegated after selling off what assets they had…moved from 2nd world nation down to 3rd world nation.
Now, they may also run into a situation where they try to refinance the loan or extend it, and no bank wants to have that debt on its books…I think that’ why the two yanks that used to own L’pool had to sell…or at least the bank sold to the new yank because they wanted rid of that debt obligation and they couldn’t handle it. So, who knows maybe the Glazers will find themselves in that situation eventually as well. One can only hope.
If you believe the journalists we’re hell bent on bringing in a top class center half in the summer – a Vertonghen, Douglas, Mbiwa.
If that’s the case, with Taylor coming back from injury we should break our general rule and get someone in on loan just to cover us until the summer.
SuperSol for half a season?
Newkie, maybe! Or just go the whole hog and get Craig Moore back
Dan
Personally I’d like to see a youngster who could take Colo’s place in the long term and who can play in the cup matches nowadays or do a job when called upon…only problem is I have no idea who could fill that role
Either way we need a decent young prospect IMO if Kadar is never going to play again..
If we are to bring in quality in the summer,speculate now ,who knows the slim CB may spend if he thinks shedding pounds is a good idea
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