Will Lille really be able to stand in the way of Debuchy?
Now I wonder if that is a wise move, but for whatever reasons (more than likely financial) Lille have decided to go against the wishes of the player and have decided that he will stay with Lille.
However I have a sneaking suspicion that this won’t be the last we hear of a deal for the French international and I still remain confident that he will end up at Newcastle by the end of the transfer window. For this to happen though the player must now try and force things through on his part if he wants the move he claims he so desperately wants.
Indeed Debuchy has already gone on record to register his disdain over the decision of Lille President Micel Seydoux.
“My desire is to leave,” Debuchy confirmed to L’Equipe. “I’m 100 per cent decided. I want to leave Lille. I’ve called Seydoux and left him a message. I’m waiting for him to call me back to clarify the situation.”
“I don’t understand it. One day, they tell me I can’t leave because they haven’t got a replacement for me. The next, it’s because Newcastle’s offer isn’t enough,” said Debuchy.
“One day, it’s the coach who’s blocking me, the next, it’s the president. I get the feeling that everyone isn’t in agreement.”
“Today, I am still resolved to trying something new, to have another experience, and I would like to have a talk with the chairman for things to be clear between us. I’m close to Yohan, and I followed his season. Now I have the chance to play in the best league in the world.”
Player power means a lot these days, even more than contracts seemingly. Generally seeking if a player wants out then they get the move they desire in the end. Notable exceptions are few and far between and no doubt people will cite Luka Modric as an example of a board keeping a player who wants to leave, but ask Tottenham fans if they feel that they’ve had the best of Luka Modric since it emerged he wanted to leave White Hart Lane and I bet you’ll find the answer is no.
The same could be true for Debuchy who clearly wants to leave his current employers, who are playing a dangerous game and risk retaining an unhappy on their books – a counterproductive move if ever there was one.
Of course I’m not saying that Lille should just roll over for us but at the end of the day we’ve been tracking him for a long time now and will have offered a value that reflects his true worth and not a value which has been inflated by oodles of press speculation plus a good couple of international appearances over the summer – appearances that wouldn’t have materialised but for a broken leg suffered by Bacary Sagna.
This saga may appear closed, but I very much doubt it is…
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Well if they say he can’t go untik they get a replacement and then sign one and change thier story saying Toon having offerred enough money then no way the player is pissed.
Makes me wonder if another club has been in with a better offer but Debuchy has turned em down
What !! Debuchy isn’t coming…….. bloody hell, next you’ll be saying that the Carroll deal is off !!
adding comment here to then!
lets get this right – lille are financially healthy are not desperate for the money. 32 million for hazard and 14 million for gervinho in two seasons helps that.
lille dont need the coin; now its just a principle thing for them.
if our chairman took this stance over our player; id be buzzing
its not lilles fault at all like aussie said; if we want a player under their contract, we will have to put money in front of them that will allow us to talk to the player
its not rocket science
becoming a circus this window,well i should say the rags are making it so
AMF what you done to richie mate you kept talking about work to him,bet hes took a bad turn
The whole things a farce now ,more to the point while we are faffing about trying to get him in we may be losing ground on our CB targets assuming we have any that is.
There is a way we could get the deal done , let Tiote fly too france and negotiate with the Lille chairman . Bet he would be flying back with a new team mate
Or we could offer Ajax a fee for Van Der Wiel and make it public ,i dare to bet Debouchy would be in Newcastle and signed within hours . The Lille president would panick and let him go knowing that he has a player on his hands that wants out and will walk away for free next summer .
KIM i think that douglas deal is done,its just we have to wait till his 5yrs is up just guessing like,prefer the lad from PSG mesel
Ice
I mentioned shift work and he said that he suddenly felt dizzy and he needed to lay down….after he finished his smoko. Nobody has heard from him since 
AMF aye i thought so,just hope somebody is about to wave a few big-macs under his nose to bring him round
Where’s the proof we are after this player?
oh my god sky have hired wor arry
ICE@7 Agree not sure at all about Douglas.
ICE@ 11 That figures ,he loves the sound of his own voice so should fit right in .He’ll have a helluva time spilling secrets of all sorts of players contracts now.
Van der Weil is rubbish defensively, his Euro performance showed that, he was one of the worst defenders in the worst defence of the competition. Also I’ve heard Ajax supporters don’t rate him and Ajax don’t want to give him a new contract.
Good old Arry, can’t wait to hear his skysports pearls of wisdom…… kill me now….
@13
Nooooooooooooooooooo
Calm down there Andy
Axel
I thought he had 2/3 years left on his contract 
He’s not on his last year is he
Actually if reports are true. If we do fai to get Debuchy and that they are switching their attentions to Ajax’s Gregory van der Wiel,
Then i feel that isnt bad after all.
Just saying.
AMF
… I hate..[wipe nose] 
…that fat bastard 
No..[sniffle].
AOD
VDW is crap, soo overrated, would rather we give tav a chance than sign that primadonnas.
Andy, have you seen VDW play week in and week out? It a bit harsh to base his talents on a couple of euro games.. you don’t make it to the dutch team by being crap..
Axel@6, I like the idea of Tiote as our official ‘negotiator’.
Stardust, as far as I know there hasn’t been any official words from NUFC regarding Debuchy, but the Lille charman has been quoted saying…”The offer from Newcastle is definitely not at the value of the player.”
That’s proof enough for me that he’s a target.
Axel@6-
What do you think of Van der Wiel? Is it realistic that we could get him? And if so, would he be worth what Ajax would want?
All I have to say is thank the lord I live overseas and don’t get skysports
Charlie. He’ll cost more than debuchy
Tavernier……is the answer
CHARLIE it is very realistic that we could get him ,he wants a wage rise and Ajax won’t give it and he is in the last year of his contract . I think a fee that matches the bid we made for Debucy would seal it .
VDW is younger and I think I read this morning that he’s only got a year left on his contract and Ajax don’t want him any longer. THere was also something on wikipedia about him being shipped out to a smaller club for a year for “attitude readjustment” or something like that, which suggests a bit of a problem, though he’s been their starter more or less since then, so he can’t be that bad.
I agree VDW was not good in the Euro, but on the other hand, if memory serves, Debuchy looked very dangerous going forward and not so hot defending in the tourney. I’ll put the usual disclaimer about judging a player on a couple of tournament appearances under both of these names…
ANDYMAG your right Debuchy has another couple of years left on his contract .
Droopy Fucking Dog… on Sky all the time? Pistol, meet the roof of my mouth. What’s that you say? You’d like to introduce me to a lead friend of yours? Please do!
Oops! What’s a couple of years contract between friends?
Rodz – my comment was a bit tongue in cheek fella – I wish everyone would stop yabbling on about it – the permanent frustration is a horrid feeling! Trying to talk myself out of wanting him as the emotional crash should we not would be crap. I support both clubs rights to bid and refuse though.
I wish we would pull out publicly then crack on quietly in the background.
Stardy – toughen up princess
If I remember correctly, there were some big teams in for Van der Wiel not too far back (Bayern, and maybe a few others). It seems like he’s lost some luster, but maybe he could be a bit of a reclamation project like Santon.
yeah, I think Bayern were after him at some point. I’ve don’t think I’ve seen him enough to have much of an opinion, but same is true for Debuchy.
TOONSY
You know this article could just as well have come from the NUFC PR department.
It’s full of unsubstanciated claims.
For instance you mention ……Luca Modric as being in the same boat at Spurs last year and his not being allowed to leave, resulted in an insinuation he was not at his best when playing, even suggesting the Spurs fans were in agreement on this point, which is just nonsense.
Then suggest Debuchy is not worth the clubs evaluation (Lille) as had it not been for an injury to Sagna he would have never played for France, therefor questioning his value, another questionable assertion.
Never once mentioning the fact we NUFC have unsettled the player and entered a number of low ball bids, for which the club has become renown for.
Sure, a players value is based on perception, but the guy is a French international player at the top of his career and to bid £4m. is imo a low ball bid and it’s obviously both insulting and unnaceptable.
Ashley has had some luck in finding players with opt out clauses Ba Cabaye, Cisse was bought due to his German side expecting relegation, etc.
I think he believes he can bulldoze sides into accepting low ball offers, unfortunately the Dutch and French sides he attempted to do business with are not buying (or should i say selling) that line and demand their evaluated price or fugedaboudit !
It’
should be obvious to all we will have to either meet the asking prce (a blow to Ashleys ego) or look elsewhere and possibly end up like last season, having to make an expensive last minute buy in Santon.
This saga has gone on long enough, either buy the guy for his worth or look elsewhere!
Ahh Stardust, sorry mate that one flew over me.
I know what you mean though, I’m feckin’ sick of the sight of him now!
Kevin Gameiro Syndrome.
Chuck you seem to be ignoring the reports that Lilly have been moving the outposts during negotiation. Modrics performances were below par last season. Look at the Stats. Ask any spurs webblog for their opinion and Toonsy was right. Before slagging of a blogger get your drivel right. Try writing one.
Morning everyone, been on nights last night so catching up on the Debuchy ‘F’ on!!
It seems to me that we have 3 options:
Firstly – we stick with what we know and offer Simpson the improved contract that he wants, which would probably be the cheapest option. But wouldn’t be my preferred option like.
Secondly – we buy Debuchy!!, give Lille the money they want for the player that is clearly Pardews preferred choice!!, I get NUFC don’t want to pay over the odds for a player but Lille are not wanting £5-10m more than what we are prepared to pay!!, were talking £1-2m here – for a player that Pardew sees as his first choice RB.
Thirdly – if they are not going to meet Lilles asking price, put an end to this circus and concernrate on actually improving the squad and sign some players!!, I can’t think of another club who are pissing about the way we are!!, if we can’t land Debuchy, Douglas and Carroll (if those are Pardews preferred options) then get his second choice players in. Because another week has passed and we are no closer to a player in FFS
Sharpy, I appreciate your frustration and it does ‘appear’ we’re pissing about, but none of us fans know what is actually going on. For all we know we may well be bidding for more than one RB/CB/CF and just waiting for someone to buckle. I doubt we’re concentrating all our efforts on just our first choice targets.
I totally agree with you on the apparent price quibbling though. £4.5m does seem like a very low offer. We paid £5-5.5m for Santon. I’d say Lille’s £7-8m evaluation sounds about right, and £6m would probably be fair for both parties.
All that said though, I don’t know what’s been said/agreed/negotiated between both clubs and I can only speculate on the BS fed to me by the media.
Rod – the thing is tho mate that this is the chairman of Lille saying it, not some reporter.
Apparently we increased our offer yesterday, which means we obviously value him at more than our first offer … so why make that offer?!
Lille have said from the start that they value Debuchy at £7-8m. They haven’t changed their valuation as Twente did we LDJ.
I know we are probably working behind the scenes on other options, but Pardew is our manager and he would have listed potential targets in order of preference – and whilst I don’t know what that list is – you’d assume that his first choice RB is Debuchy based on our pursuit of him. If we are going to back the manager and give him every opportunity to do his job to the best of his ability – as it’s his job on the line if we get it wrong – then we should be getting as many of his first choice transfer targets in as possible. I don’t know of many other clubs who adopt the ‘wait for something to buckle’ technique the way we do. I’m not having a go at you mate by quoting you, because I agree that that is how we seem to go about things. It’s just really high risk, and if it comes off we get a good deal, great! – but as a fan, I couldn’t give a fook about a good deal!, I want the players in that Graham Carr and Alan Pardew have scouted and identified as players who can take our club forward. The club have a transfer policy set out, so these players we have scouted should have been identified as being ‘affordable’ – some spend the bloody money and lets have a squad that has time to ready itself for the season ahead, rather than pissing about til the last minute and either missing out or leaving Pardew with very little time to work with the player before the season starts.
Similarly there quotes from the player himself indicating that Lille are messing us about. Not sure it’s all us missing about. We have successfully got our man in the past.
Chuck ;
We have not entered a number of low bids for Debuchy .I have only heard of one bid being made but the press have entered several more bids on our behalf.
Similarly, the only offer NUFC have made to Liverpool for Carroll is for a loan deal, but the press are offering Liverpool £millions on our behalf.
Sidekick – we entered an initial bid which was dismissed as insulting, then increased it yesterday which has still not met the valuation, causing Lille to say Debuchy is staying put. That would make it a number of low bids mate.
Prem – Lille have said that they value the player at £7-8m, but wouldn’t consider selling the lad til they had his replacement in. They now have his replacement, but we haven’t met their valuation, it’s as simple as that.
We are waiting for Lille to either drop to our valuation or Debuchy to force the move, rather than meeting Lille at £7m for Pardews first choice target. We will of course get around £3-4m from Simpson leaving so Debuchy would cost around £3-4m
I understood that Lille changed their valuation after our initial bid. However we ar all guessing
Prem – if someone can show me that then I will happily stand corrected – but as far as I’m aware I have never seen Lille value Debuchy at less than £7-8m. But say you are right, why didn’t we walk away then?, Man U did with the Brazilian kid – Moura I think who has since joined PSG. Why don’t we just say “they want too much for the player” and walk away, instead of pissing about like this. It just makes our club look bad and may effect how other clubs enter into negotiating with us.
As people have said and I’ve even heard SSN presenters say we are known for our hard ball negotiating.
Sharpy
….”but as a fan, I couldn’t give a fook about a good deal!”
Bang on the money. I couldn’t either mate.
I often find it quite amazing how NUFC fans’ attitudes have developed over the last 5 years or so, with regards to us buying players. Most fans on here seem very ‘involved’ over with the financial aspects of the club. I live outside Newcastle so all of my mates suppport different teams. None of them talk about financial implications both from within the club and regarding player transfers. It appears we’ve been ‘conditioned’ by Fatty over the years.
I guess times have changed since 10 years ago. I know I’d never have got into a discussion over transfer fees and what a player was worth until old ‘deep pockets’ got involved.
As you say, brinkmanship is always a risky business and can often end up in total failure for both parties. I doubt we’ll ever know exactly who’s being the pain in the arse regarding Debuchy, but I’d guess both parties are just as guilty as each other for being awkward twats.
Did everyone see my anagram of Aussie Magpie Fan?
F-;£! A Man sausage pie
Oh we we laughed in unison at Aussies expense.
Look Rodzstar, did you notice. All letters used.
…still an ‘i’ short there Troy, just like my smiley
‘if man, a sausage pie’ could sort it, but it doesn’t quite have the same ring to it.
Chuck – http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2177967/Luka-Modric-called-unprofessional-Andre-Villas-Boas.html
http://boards.footymad.net/forum.php?tno=527&fid=248&sty=2&act=1&mid=2114419541
Just a couple f links, with opinion from Tottenham fans, stating about Luka Modric and how he has disappointed/been playing up.
I’d like you to substantiate your “series of lowball bids” assertion now please, with actual quotes, so basically not newspaper speculation please
Wasn’t it 7-8 million Euro, which our renewed supposed bid now reaches but they have moved the goal posts?
as i said, lille dont HAVE to sell, so if we NEED a rb and debuchy is our first choice, then we better offer the 8 million they want.
othawise move on
that being said, debuchy is not amazing from what ive seen. going forward he is better than simmo, heck, aaron hughes was better than simmo going forward
however he is very suspect defensively, and with the pace of the game in england. he could be found out
just saying
Same as pretty much any foreigner settling into the English game then? Santon was like that, now look at him…
Toonsy @ 51 you know that chuck doesn’t let facts get in the way
On topic I don’t think it’s over yet I think this will carry on for another week or 2, I just hope the club have a plan B because time is running out.
I’m sure there is some cynic’s that think it will carry on until the window closes, after all it won’t be the clubs fault that lille kept moving the goal posts and left us with no time to get a replacement in
Meant to add doe’s anyone actually have any proof that Lille wanted £4mil then upped it to £6 mil or is it just going by the rags that everyone believes that Lille have been moving the goal post
it just doesn’t sound right
As I find it real hard to believe that Lille would let a mainstay of their team and French international with 2 yrs left on their contract go for £4mil
Dave – £4m is about €5.5m which isn’t too far off what Lille actually want if you go by press reports.
Mind if you go by press reports we actually offered About £4m with another £1.5m due in add ons/sell on clauses which is about €7.5m all in. Lille apparently want €8m, which is another reason why I don’t think this is over yet
DAVE@56 now dont you start bother again mind
Toonsy thats the problem but all we have is press shite, as I said it just doesn’t seem to be a sensible price for him. IMO he must be worth round the €8mil mark.
Ice you know me mate I come in peace
Sooner or later Debuchy will arrive at the toon, it’s just a matter of time.
another bits the dust
http://www.nufcfans.co.uk/brazilian-defender-not-expecting-to-leave-for-newcastle/?
Ice TBH im really not surprised as I said 2 weeks till we kick off our new season, we are 4-5 players down and not 1 1st team player brought in.
At the end of last season most on here thought we needed 2-3 1st teamers in but now a lot are changing their views and saying that we don’t really need 1st teamers and that the kids will step up if needed, because they can see the closer it gets to the window closing the less likely it will happen.
And with the extra games we will be playing I do worry that 1 or 2 injuries could really fuk our season up, and imo it is a crying shame because we have had enough time to bring in the players we needed. but then I can’t speak too soon because Pards said we should have 1 or 2 players in before sunday
DAVE anyone with any nonce knows you cannot throw young kids at the deep end,we could be playing up to 60games we need at least 3 quality players imo,i wanted them in to bed in with 2/3 pre-season games,but lets see what we get come the end
Ice the thing that surprises me is that some think we can cover with the younguns when even Pards himsel said that they were for the future
Where is that Richie one haven’t seen him about
DAVE he must be putting up a good fight with swat,but where is there is food aboot it might take the paras
Ice yeah with a bulldozer
he hasn’t been on for a few days or have I missed him
DAVE another e-mail
you two stop slagging me on fb yet
BATTY have they changed prison tops that you know of
Ice do you see the abuse im getting
going pick shan up mite catch ya if ya still on
shameful mate shameful
Batty just for men
Well there was always the chance of him ending up here…but i think toonsy has killed it with his prediction…..
Quite simply we need a 1st choice CB in which MA also wants according to him ,a full back and a 1st team back up striker. Without these additions with the amount of games we have to play this season we will most likely struggle ,especially if we get injuries . We kick off against the Spuds in 15 days time ,even if we get two in within next few days it’s late to bed them in imo. I don’t understand why Carr is bothering to scout talent if we arn’t prepared to commit to getting them in.Also in that Pards and Carver interview they stated that if their first choice can’t be obtained they have another two to target for every position .If that is the case why are we not just going for them instead of persisting with the unobtainable
.
Has anyone signed yet?
Kim stop complaining you can’t expect Jabba to waste his money by paying going rates on players, we need to be clever and try to screw clubs to save us a few quid, and if we start to pay the going rate for players then all clubs will be holding out when we come in for their players. be grateful he has saved us from going down the tubes
Andy ,Don’t ask silly questions
Dave
MUNICH MAG you coming this way tomorrow for the game with Den Haag?
Kimtoon-exactly…especially if Carr is scouting players that we’ll be able to sell on for a profit-which in all likelihood we will be. Surely its in Ash’s favour to spend some money now and sell later. Speculate to accumulate and all that
Troy@49
“Your anagrams are showing, Doctor Stavers.”
Mind you if Aussie is annoyed its probably because that man-sausage one didnt even use all the letters properly.
You could have insinuated exactly the same thing with either of these AND used the letters properly:
“If anus semi-agape….?”
or
“I amuse a fag penis”
In all seriousness I like the fact that we don’t spend silly money on transfer fees as it’s better for the clubs long term stability .BUT there is a time when being cash savvy can cost you a decent player for the sake of an extra million or so ,let’s face it we ain’t talking 12 ,15 or 20 million here are we.
I think playing football manager has actually had quite an affect on how I view real football in terms of transfers-I like paying as little as we can and getting a good deal for monetary terms in that sense-but also the weight of a big transfer can lead to all kinds of pressure. If we spend low there’s less expectation and more space to breathe for both the player and management.
Newkie ,well yeah there is that .
I’m still confused as to what Lille actually want for him as I’m bloody sure I read that they wanted 8m euros at the start of the window and we bid 4m
which equates to around £3.1 million ,which is low for a French international. Apparently they now want 10 million Euros 
If that’s all true then they have indeed moved the post.Will keep trying to track down where I read it as it was linked to a comment from Lilles chairman as well. It’s entirely possible my minds playing tricks on the figures such has this saga been going on for everrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrzzzzzzzzzzz..
Cheeses pootle it doesn’t get any better than that!
“If anus semi-agape….?”
or
“I amuse a fag penis
Wooooooooooooo hoooooooooooooo hoooooooooooooooooo hoooooooooooo!
Fuckin. Hell Aussie you’re finished!!!
Kimtoon- I assumed it was 8mil euros they were after, always has been and still is, that’s about £6.5mil isn’t it? but we’re only bidding the equivalent of 6mil euros..
@rodzsta
What’s an “i” ? Amongst piss takers?
Ausse s a sht and s bg enough to take t !
Troy and Pootle – I am truly flattered that you have both spent so much time and effort into making me laugh. I know that you could be spending that time with your families but you have sacraficed it so you can concentrate on me.
Thinking of you too..
Love Aussie
Don’t be too hard on them, Oz. Pootle beavered away with his thesaurus for 2 days to come up with that effort, and Troy, well, he obviously doesn’t know that you are supposed to use ALL the letters in an anagram
I wondered about a suitable anagram for Pootle,btw, but decided that Pootle is a silly enough name anyway.
Vegas
Poor old Rodz, he had to spell it out twice before Troy realized he had missed out the I. Which is funny because it is Troys’ favourite letter. Every time he posts, it’s always – “I am, I will , I could, I think, I would, I, I ,I ,I
Not sure I agree that we’re down 4-5 players. Guthrie is a loss for sure, but not sure we’ll miss him much with the little I’ve seen of Abeid, Almalifitano and Bigirimana. I don’t count Loven and Best as losses since I’m not sure they even really played once Cisse came. Tavs is someone we didn’t have last year since he was out on loan and of course Marv and Staylor due to injury. Give me a striker and CB yet and I’d say we are looking ready and would be far stronger than last year IMO.
Where’s Fergie been by the way?
Axel@80, no I’m not coming up north for the Den Haag game.
Been out travelling all week with work and cannot be hassled…
Well, seeing as it’s quiet this morning I think I’ll add a comment…
MDS, the way I see it is at the end of last season, before anyone left, we needed at least a ‘proven’ CB and a FB (right or left, that depends on where Pardew is planning on playing Santon/Jonas). Adding these two players to the squad would have given us a bit of security playing the PL season out. Ideally we’d bring in 4 or 5 (2 or 3 provens and 2 or 3 youngsters) given the extra European matches, but 2 or 3 were what we were short of, in my eyes.
Since then we’ve lost:
SMITH (I won’t count him cos he was past it)
BEST (useful as cover)
LOVENKRANDS (useful as cover)
GUTHRIE (useful as cover)
…but we’ve gained:
TAVERNIER (useful as cover)
AMALFITANO (useful as cover from what I’ve seen of him)
BIGRIMANA (useful as cover from what I’ve seen of him)
GOOD (who knows, but I’d expect him not to be ready for first team)
…so the way I see it, we haven’t really moved forward with regards to transfers INS. We’re lighter up front, and still light at the back. I guess we’ve got ‘new’ cover for RB and CB, but squad-wise I think we’re still 2 or 3 ‘proven players’ short, minimum. Although 4 or 5 would be a more comfortable number to add.
We definitely still need a couple of defenders, and ideally another striker. I don’t class the latter as of much importance due to our wealth of midfielders who can attack I.E. Barfa, Marveaux, Sammy, Abeid and Vuckic (not sure about him).
That’s my take on it anyway.
(no doubt Toonsy will post a new article up now)
any links for the match today??
I’m not really following this anagram conversation, but keep running across it while skimming comments, but I actually laughed out loud at “I amuse a fag penis.” Well done, Pootle, if that was you who discovered that gem.
Billy, Al Jazeera Sport were showing it but not any more.
These fellas reckon they’re showing it, but I wouldn’t hold yer breath:
http://www.101greatgoals.com/livestreaming/online-football-streaming-watch-ado-den-haag-v-newcastle-pre-season-friendly-live/
…I’d just check the blog shortly before KO, I’m sure if there’s a stream out there one of our web-combers will find it.
FSOTC, got to admit mate, I did too but kept quiet.
Hey, what time is the game today? Forgot all about it…
cheers bud
Rodz I see your point but all our outs were proven experienced prem players, at least 3 of the 4 new ones were in Pards own words for the future, so imo we have just added them to the potential younguns group, so are still way short
Is this posturing by Pardew or the real deal? If so, maybe no Debuchy after all…
“I don’t like to think we have a ‘B’ list. It’s an ‘A’ list and sometimes it’s just whether all the ingredients are there. If that isn’t working, you just go to another name on the ‘A’ list. Trust me, there’s not many names on it – there’s two or three in each position in all honesty. All of those players would take us forward.”
http://www.thenorthernecho.co.uk/sport/football/newcastle/9856489.Pardew_has_no_worries_about_his_A_list_if_deals_fail/
Show your love, Rodz. Pay it forward. What a wonderful world, etc.
Think you’re right there rodz. not sure whether to start panicking yet.. For all we know good could be the new centre back, Simpson could have.agreed to sign up and rangercould have vowed to live his days like a monk and bam they’ll say no signings needed.
Fans, you don’t want me to start coming up with some anagrams from your blog name fella, there is a shit load of letters to work with
In my opinion, though it’s nice to improve the first team, it isn’t crucial like some back up is. so in reality it doesn’t matter when in the window the players arrive as they won’t be needed to fling into the first team anyway.
Players like raylor and perch deserve another season as squad players after last year i think. so if the board said simmo and santon were our full backs this season with tavernier and raylor as back ups i’d begrudgedly accept. obviously raylor isn’t a.left back but he certainly played his part for us there last year.
Centre back is the absolute necessity. We can’t go in short of cover, short on quality i can handle and be patient but.last year was a shambles putting people like Simpson at cb.
If we don’t make Euope this season, it will be like armageddon
You’re right, Aussie! I’m going to change my moniker to an unpronounceable symbol like Prince to avoid the ignominy of raging anagrammery.
Can’t you just tell how much we are missing footie,we have resorted to anagrams
Aussie@107 You ain’t caught my ‘ glass half empty syndrome have you? ‘
I know we’ve lost some players, but to be honest i’d much rather rely on the inexperienced players like Ammy, Biggy and Tav than the proven players like Smith and Lovenkrands. No disrespect to them, but they never really cut it in the PL, whereas these young lads definitely have the potential to.
The only real big miss is Guthrie and Best to a degree if we don’t get someone in.
Fans Should Own The Club, I already had a go at yours yesterday (given its abnormal length)
…after finding this:
http://wordsmith.org/anagram/advanced.html
…but held myself back
I saw that Northern Echo link too. I said yesterday I doubt we’re pissing around and wasting time by only pursuing 1 (Debuchy) or 2 (Carroll) players. We’ll have our grubby mits in plenty of pies I’m sure. Whether or not we can pull out a juicy plum is anyone’s guess.
Solano, I agree with you at 106, and fear I probably will with 104 too, come the end of the transfer window.
Dave, I think as far as long-term improvement goes, we’ve stepped forward, but short term we’ve stepped back.
When all of the smoke screens, skullduggery, false calls, blather jobs, media speculation is put to one side, we ARE short of a couple of seasoned pros to add to the squad.
The future DOES look bright, with quite a few promising junior players looking to break into the first team squad this season.
However, as fans we need to be convinced that the punters in charge of the club are doing there best to placate the fans, but most importantly the current management team and players currently at the club.
Of course the manager is going to tell the media he’s relaxed about things, but we know the real world may look somewhat different… I only hope the owners will back the manager to the full, at the end of the day he won all the management prizes last season, so must know something about footy…
Rodz, I think a fairer comparison is with the squad as we started last season, rather than how we ended it. There is no doubt we are stonger this time round. However it is fair that we have more games this season and hence some extra bodies are needed. Looking at our starting 11 a few places could be realistically strengthened, and the names we are linked with would as Pardew said take us forward. As to targets we went from 46 to 65 pts last season. Consolidation at 60+ would be good. Staying in Europe a priority. There are 6 clubs with more resources than us. Hopefully given our management we can still finish amongst them.
agree with newkie @110
Liked Guthrie but the lad has gone for the right reasons. Im expecting Gosling to start showing his ability this year. He times his runs into the box well, He could be a decent goalscoring midfielder in time…
Aussie Mag, did you notice wor rowers cuffed your lot ?….
I see we are being linked to Malaga MF Jeremy Toulalan now, apparently we have made enquiries. I also saw Spurs are after Rondon their forward and hope to land him for £8m .
CC regarding Gosling, I still get the impression that the games pass him by. I think he’s a player in the Danny Guthrie mould, whereas Danny was better…
Kim just what we need more MF’s
Kimtoon, Malaga are getting rid of everybody cos they have gone bankrupt I believe. A few seasons ago they took Van Nistelroy, and also the FC Bayern Argy centre half Demichelis. Toulalan is in a similar mould, has a lot of Champs League experience, done it all at Lyon I believe. He’d be a canny signing for the toon and would add authority to midfield. He’d be a player who would go straight into the team imo… but his age may be against him…there again, if the price is right, and he talks the official NUFC lingo too…
MM
Wouldn’t wages be a problem if Malaga was one of those big spending clubs?
We should go in for Rondon for that kinda money…Toulalan though, I imagine he’s already on pretty big wages there…
Prem@113, yeah that’s a fair comment I suppose. We have ‘gained’ a few since the start of last season through younger player progression and injury recoveries I.E. Saylor, Marveaux, Barfa, Tavernier, Gosling and Abeid. But it’s that ‘new player’ that isn’t a new player thing that I don’t buy into. My main cause for concern is the extra fixtures and pressure this season will bring, and the likely fatigue and injuries that go with it.
Anyway, I’ve got to nip off now. Get my other bike fixed so I have transport after the lowlife cnt nicked my good one on Wednesday.
Laters gators…….
munich
Guthries tidier on the ball no doubt but i think Gosling could be a bit like Nolan. His anticipation is good he just needs to start finishing better when the chances come.
If they could get Toulalan for a decent price they should look past his age, They did say they would make the odd exception although they might have gone back on that after the impact Fat Sol and Kuqi had…
Toulalan is 28 yrs old , good player but do we really need more MFplayers?.
Re .Rondon I mentioned him yesterday to Andy ,knowing Malaga’s position he could be a bargain at £8m or so .He’s scored 25 goals in 67 appearences. I do think he will go to spurs though .
Guthrie’s problem was that he was so much like Cabaye but basically worse in every way, and not really much younger despite the fact people often called him young.
Gosling is actually a fair bit younger, but his style is also very different and whilst that means he can’t fill the hole left by Cabaye if we do lose him to injury or something, he can at least offer something different to the side. He just needs a run of games and imo he’ll come good.
Premiership years on sky 1998/99. Gullitt our manager. What a bellend he was
Toby, a manager with all the credentials, talked the talk, but couldn’t do it at the toon…
Munich
Sorry but I am not having that Guthrie is better than Gosling or any midfielder we currently have at the club.
One of the brilliant things about football is no two persons see the same
Kim, from earlier
.. glass is always half full for me 
just messing 
The way we are going we will have. 2-6-2 formation this season
team
http://www.nufc.co.uk/articles/20120804/den-haag-v-newcastle-krul-starts_2281670_2871506?
Ice @130 ,No Cabaye or Benny ,where are they then?.
We’ve sold them Kim
Kim
Cabbaye and Benny didn’t travel.
Toby ,are they injured ?
Aussie,
Put your rod away 
Yeah they arn’t even on the bench
I thought we would see the team set up as almost the same team as we were going to start the season, I wonder if Raylor starting is a sign of things to come 
Ah well by tomorrow we’ll hopefully have 1 or 2 new 1st teamers in
Kim
I’m working on the theory that you have to laugh or you will mad 
theres something not right with the club and benny me thinks
dont worry about cabaye hes only in the huff as we havent signed his mate
Aussie ,too right mate.
Ice@137 Don’t set me off ,I’m jittery enough as it is
KIM who me! no way,but imo sumit is up benny wise
HBA cabaye and marv didn’t travel. Pity fergie has been injury all preseason again too
dave @135 optimistic fecker you
Maybe Benny feels insulted that some people are suggesting sidelining him in the team in favour of Carroll. To be honest if I had Benny’s ability, so would I
Ice, the pl finished in may and the euros started early june so benny and Cabaye have not had much time away from football. I’d rather them have a few extra weeks off to recharge, we have a long season ahead..
Ice something is always up with benny. As pards has said, he needs special care. As long as its kept out of the press i’ll assume its relatively minor and will be resolved in house
streams anyone? 4pm kick off
got one!
http://www.livesoccerhd.info/ch1/
…think I heard Benny had a knock.
http://www.livesoccerhd.info/ch1/
Mexico Senegal turning into a great match
kick off is 6pm uk time i think
ice it has started already
an hour the other way
Cheers M and Robert
M and Robert’s links work. Bit choppy for me like, but that might be my shit internet connection.
cheers
DUB that will be reet,cheers i would have missed out there
Icedog@150…wait until I tell Ritchietoon …
Open goal there if oba couldve found a striker
Jonas does go down easy mind
Mr T still looking a bit rusty with the ball
Ice @ 150
put it down to age 
MM you will have to drag him oot the food outlet first
DAVE careful there noo
I know this is only a friendly but the season is only 2 weeks away ffs.
If we can get “in the zone” at the drop of a hat, at the push of a button in the space of two weeks, then respect to Pardew and the rest of the staff. What I’ve seen so far this pre-season is mediocre.
Icedog howay man…. who do you take me for like ?
Don’t want to be a doommonger like…..
Close Papiss. Vuckic looking better today and santon improved on the left
Stuff in the rags thsi morning said Cabaye and HBA were not quite match fit after having a few late weeks off to rest after Euros.
Nice ball from Santon
MM I have to agree with you @ 162 we look rusty apart from 1 or 2 players
Looking a bit inpotent in front of goal ,where is the killer instinct of our Dembas gone
Sweet shot from Obertan there.
Keeper did well to save that shot from obatoon
I hate them shity short corners
Big D@167 the toon lethargy is part of the reason what prevented me from putting 1300Km on the clock and heading up for the game. Reet, I’m just off for a prawn sandwich…
Well done Tim.
Raylor
Crap corner
Obertan has looked great again today
The toon must have a canny standing in Holland, cos there seems to be a good crowd at the game. Or they have given the tickets away like at 5under1and
Raylor has been the star performer so far…
Sterile first half that.
@179 except for the one time he had to defend and got the wrong side of his man for the best chance of the match. That’s not saying much mind
I know it’s only about fitness but I thought we would have been better knowing that we are only 2 weeks away from the start of the season but hey ho
Dave, hopefully it’s a repeat of last season and we’ll get off to a flyer .Without any new editions in we are gonna have too I reckon.
Kim you never know we might have 1 or 2 in by tomorrow
Dave@184 Feck me just saw a pig fly over the house!
http://www.thefirstrow.eu/watch/133814/1/watch-ado-den-haag-vs-newcastle-united.html
not a bad quality stream ,with no commentary!
Racist chants apparently. Guess Axel and MM were right about the fans
Really, Dubtoon? Where did you hear that? Shocking…
Kim
are you sure it wasn’t Richie 
Ouch! Poor Raylor!
I guess Raylor won’t be playing pocket billiards for a while
Dave ,poor Richie ,your so mean
FSOTC – lee ryder and neil cameron on twitter
Dub ,What they saying ,I don’t do twitter?
Baffling–they have black players too.
@lee_ryder
#nufc officials aware of racist chanting by home club
Sorry kim, on and off the site. Seems we have had a goal disallowed every match so far
didn’t look like there was much in that one either
Is Ba now shifted out left?
What’s happening I lost the link around 10 mins ago
N’er mind. Amalfitano replaces him.
Kim don’t know my 2nd link just went 2 mins ago
Fother mucker, mine just shit the bed too.
fuk it Olympic cycling may do
This is the first time for yonks that ALL of the streams have gone off…
Are we still winning 4-0 ?
Liiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiinks?
We drew 0-0 lads. Just caught the last few minutes on bet365, nothing much happened
Nothing worse than 3/4 game gone then you lose the stream ,I’m not a happy bunny
Right, thanks Dub.
Crap game anyways
I hope we have our shit together for when the Spuds come to town…
MM we need to get our shit together 2 weeks to go, we still have 2 more friendlies to go so maybe that will help get them ready
Speaking of them Spuds, I just bought my ticket! All the way from the U-S-of-A! Howay the motherfucking lads, bitches!
Well just got back from the game ,i am pleased i live here so it did not cost me money and time to travel here . That performance was a disgrace for the 200 or so toon army that travelled too watch it . Loads of possession and no end product is the best way too describe what i saw .
Axel mate, I’m sure you had a great day out seeing our beloved toon on your doorstep. I was the same a few weeks back when the toon were in Munich…
However, check my post @173, says it all mate.
Another reason why I didn’t head north is that I am saving money for some of the Europa League games. I hope they take that serious cos it is way out of order blokes paying good money to travel away to be treat to a half hearted stroll about.
Of course the team are building up, and to avoid injury is of utmost importance, but it’s still bad crack…
Gather I didn’t miss owt then. Stream was shit on my laptop so I gave up after about 5 minutes.
Still, only a friendly. At least we didn’t lose. We’re getting to play a lot more of our squad than we did last pre-season though.
…which is nice.
…seem to remember last pre-season being a bit of a shambles actually.
Axel
Where you with the toon fans or the Haag?
ANDYMAG as soon as the stewards saw our black and white stripes we were ushered into the away end
Axel, did you hear any of the racist chanting that Lee Ryder wrote about?
I reckon Cabaye didn’t travel with the squad cos he’s in Lille negotiating his transfer from NUFC. He knows we’ve given up on signing Debuchy and he wants to be with his bezzie mate.
…you heard it here first.
Fans
i did not hear any of it but we were a fair way off them , the stadium was not even half full .From what i have read they were making monkey noises ,i certainly did not hear any racist chants .
Rod I do think Cabaye will be a bit pissed off with the club if Debuchy doesn’t come after him basically talking him into joining the club and I would say Debuchy will be pissed aswell after coming out with a come get me,
Plus remember Cabaye came out and said it was important for the club to keep their best players and add to them.
GB 1 down……
BIG DAVE i still think Debuchy will come the 2 club owners are playing poker with each other eventually a deal will happen .
yeah Dave, I was taking the piss with the Lille shit,but would it be any more bizarre than Andy Carroll coming back to us?
…nah, I’ll stop there
…don’t want to start off a bollocks rumour. I still think we’ll get Debuchy.
Mind you, I reckon Ben Arfa’s absence today suggests he’s negotiating a deal with Man City so he can play alongside De Jong.
…fuck me, two GB penalties in 4 minutes
Useless fecker missed the 2nd. Both crap penalties.
(not that anyone gives a shit like)
If Arsenal happen to win a pen against us this year, i hope Ramsey takes it…
Why does Bellamy as the old head in the team not take the pens?
…fuck knows Axel. I would’ve thought Daniel Porridge would be preferred to Ramsey too.
…I guess he just takes much better ones under pressure in training.
Still a bit weird watching team GB like, can’t quite get into it.
..the patchwork quilt of football teams.
Wow Jess Ennis ,the very definition of Sheffield steel. What a women.
aye Kim, she’s buffed like.
….buff (muscularly toned), Sheffield steel (buffed)…ahh whatever
I’ll get mi coat…..
Rodz I know what you mean
Tis been a good day for team GB
Ennis ,Rutherford and super MO, we rule
well tonight anyway 
go GB 
Tell you what Jess Ennis is one fit Lass
Anyway, nee shit, just got a letter off one of mi old mates who works in Geordie Jeans on Grainger Street.
Said he selt Roberto Baggio 4 pairs of snow-washed pegs and 3 chunky knit sweaters last Thorsday
…Baggio said he was moving to the TOON!
…postmark on the letter says 01.06.88 like, buritz probli a franking malfunction ad imagine.
nowt like a good old fashioned penalty
shoot out
This is one nervy shoot out
shit sturridge misses
And out
Rodz yeah them franking machines are a bit hit and miss
England knocked out on Pens again
Team GB no better than England at pens then
Lazio want Santon then I see.
KIM he might go too when dragout joins
Ice ,I hope not as he’s started looking very good .
Kim they can want but they’re not getting him, I expect him to be a future great
No they’re not Dave, you’re just trying to pick a fight now you big bully.
(although that’s the emoticon of ‘evil’, I’d say it’s more suited to a ‘harrumph’)
TOONSY! Re-define your emoticons FFS
KIM kna i dont really think so unless jabba has had a big offer,imo it will be simpson
KIM on his performance today i would say they can have him .
where the fark’s awld Richie anyway?
…must admit I find it most suspicious he hasn’t been on here since my bike got nicked.
(harrumph)
6 golds in one day
gobsmacked ,we are 3rd in the medal table 
Must admit, divnt get this limpics shite.
What do we get for a gold? Is it like a Country Loyalty Points System or sumik? More golds we get the cheaper petril and fags are?
ROD dont think it could be richie unless you had double-doors on your shed,plus would your bike hold his weight
Rod
…Ice, I had a 20ft shed door made of depleted uranium, with a 4 inch ballistic glass front panel (for aesthetics), you would’ve thought that was secure enough. Guess a never should’ve locked mi bike to mi 12ft radius World Record Scotch Egg.
I see Arsenal have forked out £20m for Carloza, they’re really spending big this window. Is the 27 year old worth it though? I haven’t seen much(I hadn’t heard of him before) of him for Malaga. Guess it spells an end for Gervinho and to an extent Walcott.
…oihm onmi waiy…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CCl2AdA8u_4
Cazorla
…heard he’s canny good at star jumps like.
Just been watching GB gettin’ beat by South Korea. South Korea!!! Surely they are no better than yer average second division team.
Roddaz…you got a 20ft shed door made of depleted uranium ? You must live in Benwell then, they nick iverything ower there…
This season will be an interesting one for the toon, I fear a turbulent year, but it’s probably to be expected following the success of last season..
I reckon that the season before a big tournament, Euros or World Cup, all of the players put in extra effort cos they want to get noticed by the managers of the national teams. Then the player has a good, or bad tournament and get’s recognised as a big player on the scene. I reckon Cabaye has landed in that category, and now that he is a big player wants to see his ambition matched by the club, I mean AP and his merry men did a great job to get him to the toon in the first place.
If he’s peeved that the club cannot get his mate Debuchy in that is also understandable, at the end of the day probably the majority of the fans would like him to come too. It’s a real sign of intent by the club, wanting to bring in top internationals. At the same time, Cabaye will know exactly what is going on behind the doors, and where the problem with this signing lies…
I hope AP and his team are up to handling the “more ambitious” egos in the dressing room. I suppose for the fans that is only good, cos these players, due to their own ambition, invariably want to move the club forward. It’ll be interesting to see how the club react.
Howay the lads..
How many medals do the Saffa’s have now JJ?
14 golds for GB!!!! Woohooo
Good to see we are stuffing the Aussies in the medals table
http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2008/jul/13/athletics.olympicgames1
Interesting toon link……well done the big man !!
Get a grip Troy…..
Comparing Team GB and Australia in the Olympics is like comparing NUFC and Scotswood Social Club…
@MM
I suppose
Not much call for boomerang throwing in the Olympics I suppose. I know their equivalent to Fatima Whitbread couldn’t get the hang of the javelin. Her throws were that tainted by the years of boomerang throwing the javelin used to end up on the running track. BEHIND HER!
Fatima Whitbread, now that was a wee hen, wouldn’t like to get a clip behind the lug from her like…
@MM
I always thought Fats had something about her. If you caught her in the right light and profile she used to get me excited. Particularly if the light caught her hairy legs and stubble.
Wow! I’m excited now thinking about it!
And now it’s the Aussie javelin thrower. It’s a big one!
Wow! Its been in the air for longer than any other throw so far!
Wow! It’s way past the best throw so far!
Wow! Oh no! It’s heading back!
Wow! Minus 10 metres!
Unlucky!
Wor Fatima was a legend, a real woman, and a world class athlete to boot…
Troy…do you reckon the old Strongbow cider adverts were based on the Aussie javelin thrower kaduunk…!? A few more years and they’ll be right up there. Struggling at the moment though…http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GE66j8Oxk_w
Regarding Debuchy, it looks like Ashley has met his match when it comes to prising a player who is under contract away from the club…
also trying to undercut the selling club.. 
Sooner or later the club will need to move on to the next best option…or sit tight and wait for things to transpire, which could be a long drawn out and disruptive process..
Tricky business, and frustrating for club and fans alike….
no wonder he got sacked thats a lot of cash maybe he was a m/u fan and was a parting gift
http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/news/reports-claim-500m-united-sponsorship-deal-forced-executive-103706501.html
Icedog, I bet them lads on the shop floor at Chevy are well ower the moon when they know where there Christmas bonuses are going for the next ten years…
The ex Chevy executive who brokered that deal is probably “not returning calls” I would imagine..
There’s public mourning about the Aussie swimmers over here
The outpouring of grief is great to see. I love it when jingoism falls flat on its face. 
Not into the Olympics I’m afraid, though I’ve been a bit excited by our runners, esp that Jessica Ennis (is that her name?) and the little guy with the pregnant wife in the long long run.
Makes you proud to be British dunnit.
Brisvegas…in Germany too. It’s the first time in 80 years that they’ve never won a swimming medal
It’s obviously a more level swimming pool these days
BRISVEGAS @276 in that race did you see the aussie girl came last and fell doon,god she must have been 7ft tall too
even the aussie rowers are getting sent home drunk wtf
Ice @274 ,That’s crazy money
I thought they had an American goverment bailout ,if so wonder what the US tax payer makes of it 
.
Icedog@280…..
KIM@281 like us tax-payers (except batty) nowt gets done
TC three more golds than anyone here thought.
Still a great achievement. And to reward them for their incredible feats, our government will givet them each £30k for a lifetime of hard work.
Yet the government officials get bonuses of millions for running once prosperous businesses into the ground.
Feckers.
UK has done well. But you are four countries
JJ, GB is England ,Scotland and Wales. It’s only 4 when it’s the U.K which includes N.Ireland too.
Not sure if you noticed it elsewhere in the world, but yesterday there was nowt the matter in Germany when the British judges muffed it and wrongly disqualified the German Heptathlete. The athlete was later awarded a silver medal, after the embarassing and glaring mistake by the judges had been challenged.
Did they show this on UK TV at all ?
JJ, they population of the UK is 60 mill, therof Scotland 5 mill, Wales 3 mill.
Saaaaf Africa is a muckle country, though with a poulation of around 50 mill.
What’s your point dude…?
Arry at it again, this time Spuds on the receiving end
‘ I would not be sure Luka would start the season at Tottenham.The club would be happy to sell if they got the right money .’ he said.
On what Daniel Levy said to Modric. ‘ Give us one more season and if Real come in, I won’t stand in your way.’
Someone needs to gaffer tape his mouth shut ,they really do.
Kimtoon….Sky is probably ‘Arry’s last “footballing” port of call…
There again, he maybe knows first hand what Modric was promised. The gloves will be off soon I reckon, and the prime winners will be Sky and Harry, unless it ends up in court…
MM @286 I didn’t even know she’d been disqualified and then reinstated. I just saw her on the podium at the awards. To be honest it was mental on the t.v last night , the crowd and presenters going nuts over Jess and then gold in the long jump so quick after and then MO getting gold , it most likely got lost in the meyhem going on tbh . What happened what was the cock up about?.
Take it easy on the Aussies you bastards
even my old mate Ice is having a crack, where is my stab proof vest 
Kimtoon, I can appreciate all of that, cos it was a mental night, the neighbours were probably thinking what all the noise was in wor hoose !
The German lassy was convinced that she had won a silver medal, and in fact was kind of enjoying basking in the glory. 5 minutes after the event the crack was that she had been disqualified, and of course the German tele presenters started going on wtf mode. No one could find out what was happening. Then “disqualified” apparently appeared on the electronic score board. Ten minutes later, after reviewing the tv replays (German tv is brilliant at this kind of thing btw), it became apparent that one of the runners had stepped twice on the white line seperating the runners BEFORE they were allowed to change lanes. That was proven to be the case, unfortunatley the judges seemed to have got the wrong runner, it wasn’t the German lassy, but the Ukrainian lassy on the lane next to the German. Talk about embarassing…well done the judges…
I was just curious if it had been noticed in the UK media, cos I cannot find anything mentioning it on sport web sites…
There was also an absolutely brilliant issue during the week when the German fencer fettled the Korean lassy in the last millisecond of the event, although the clock had been run down, then amazingly another second suddenly appeared and the Germany lassy stabbed the opponent.
The Korean lassy spent 30 minutes sitting on the floor crying. Flippin heck, talk about controversy !!
MM ,Well It may of been mentioned ,but I never saw it
fancy mucking it up though ,that’s bad by the judges especially if more than one judge was involved like. 
.
Aussie Mag….you’re stab vest wouldn’t have helped you today mate, don’t worry about it.
Not that I’m grassing or owt like
Munich-Yeah the media were all over it, telling us it was all a big set up just to see what your lot would do when we “stripped” you of your medal
Oz @291 There’s always the hockey.
Kim I thought GB was the name of the mainland and his not been used constitutionally for over 200 years
http://www.infoplease.com/uk/language/difference-great-britain-england-isles.html
For anybody (like me) confused by the terms.
Not fazed by the olympics at all to be honest.. too commercialized for my liking…
Ditto, mate … and the chest beating and flag kissing.
Prefer the cricket – England and S Africa, that is
The US media was all over the Korean girl’s story. I think she had to stay there on the floor while they filed her dispute. If she left the ring (or whatever it’s called) she could have been docked a point or something, so she had to stay there while the judges “sorted it out,” by which we mean “allowed it to be completely fucked up.”
MM
Out of those 50mil only about 5mil have the opportunity to play sport at a competitivelevel and can actually afford sports equipment mate.
So our sporting population is in fact much smaller than UK.
Kim,
Always wondered what the difference was
Apart from athletics and swimming. Mega wealthy professional athletes should not be allowed to compete.
Having Federer and Neymar there makes it a it of a joke
you don’t see professional boxers
JJ
If a country wants to win they’ll put out their good players. “Shall we play Andy Murray who has a shot to get us gold and who people would like to see or do we want to see some random bloke that rarely gets far in a competition and so people will accept he’s not gunna get us a medal?
Andy,
Quite simply, with the money already involved in those sports and the fact they already have their Grandslam or major events… Means there should be no place for those sporting codes in the Olympics.
JJ
I think that’s a bit unfair. These sports professionals have dreamt of representing their countries at the olympics since they were boys and so they worked hard in a sport they love to become some of the best in the world. They sign large contracts because of their ability but ultimately feel proud to wear their colours.
Watching a bit of the US v. New Zealand women’s quarterfinal. The announcer just spent a few minutes talking up “St. James’” park and the Newcastle supporters. Good to hear
But really, Murray did all his training before being loaded didn’t he? And there’s no payout for the Olympics like there is for a grandslam event, they’re just here to compete for the love of the sport and give the crowd a good show.
Newkie
Exactly
Ben just got gold in the sailing
number 15
Murray is doing brilliantly.
Andy@312 Yep just watching it now ,up for it I reckon
Youd think so Kim with him being 3 games away from Gold
C’mon
Rodger trying to lob Andy but Murray was havin’ noon ov it
Andy
5 set match in the final unfortunately!
Was just about to post that Newkie
. My bad 
Fine he’s 5 games away from gold
This article is 2 days 3 1/2 hours old Toonsy. What’s going on
, no ‘game on Den Haag’ yesterday either 
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Murrays serving for the match
Aye….
GOT IT!
Have we spent the £35m yet?
Have we signed 1 or 2 players yet it is sunday after all
Andy you need to get an article knocked up then since Toonsy’s hard at work
Dave
Sorting one out on the old think tank
Andy Murray, well done the lad !
Big Dave, arent you 2IC when Toonsy is having a hard earned day off ?
Well done Andy murray gold number 16
Robson is dominating the court
, my dad worked with her dad 
Some Liverpudlians and Evertonians really are douchebags. Was just on ‘The mag’ on their article on where we should aim for next season, it talked about finishing above Liverpool and Everton as our target for next season so it brought the scum out of their holes to argue with us. Both fans where generally the same “how many trophies has NU won”
ed as well)”
“you lot overachieved massively we underachieved, expect mid table finish while we’re in a CL place”
“We thrashed you in the last game of the season so we’re better than you(I
“NU aren’t even in the same league as Liverpool”
MM The only article I could write is how much of a c@nt Jabba and Lambastad are.
I was thinking of doing one on the 1 or 2 new players Pards told us last week we would have in by today but I don’t think thats going to happen now
http://www.journallive.co.uk/nufc/newcastle-united-news/2012/08/04/61634-31546049/?
So Pards says Cabaye and Benny mightn’t make the start of the season
after being given extra time off 
why give them extra time off sure they had 2 weeks more than the others
Dave
Sorry I couldn’t resist 
We got Curtis is that not Good enough for you
Andy
He’s Good but not Good enough for 1st team yet 
Aye he’s not like the departed Leon
Andy do you mean apart from the fact ones a defender and the others a striker
I see Rondon as gone to the Russians then for £8m I think. After all the talk linking them with Ba for £7m they end up paying £1m more for Rondon .Maybe they were never in for Ba and it was press stirring going on ,now there’s a surprise.
339 has not as
So we have had Pards saying we probably won’t get anyone in ,then,’ I expect a couple of bodies in by next week’ ,then’ we hope to have 2 or 3 in within the next 2 weeks’ ,3 weeks ago and the latest is’ we will be patient and I’m happy to start the season with what I have and the main thing is we havn’t lost any top players!’. Ever get the feeling you are being primed to start the season with none of the players we desperately need.
Kimtoon, you are spot on there. Pardew man speak with forked tongue…
Kim I have been a supporter of Pards from he came in but he is starting to wind me up with all these mixed messages
I guess its a hard one for him to get right as he has maybe been told that we should have them in by today, but it is part of his job to keep us informed 
Dave ,I do feel for the bloke ,I know he’s in an impossible situation with the press but feel he just needs to keep his trap shut really .You know ,if you can’t say for sure then say nowt innit.
Kimtoon and Big D it’s back to the good old days when there needs to be a sound bite every day from the manager.
I’ll be happy once the blathering stops and the season starts, though we are far from ready as far as I can see.
At the end of the day, we seem to have kept hold of all of our big hitters, and despite the talk from the manager, that really is a bonus as far as I’m concerned.
Can’t blame Pards, he has to work in the situation he’s in (which is crap) and with the people who run the club (who are bastards) so I don’t blame him really. If Pardew came out three weeks ago and said we won’t get anyone then many more people would be up in arms…
Thing is, if they say they expect someone in ,we all expect it and get angry when it don’t happen. It’s the faffing about over one player that’s getting to me ,I wouldn’t mind but he’s not even the CB we need.
Kimtoon-exactly…we can cope with injuries to the full backs, but an injury to Colo and we’re buggered.
Just like last year, where we got off pretty lucky…
Newkie ,I would like to think lessons have been learnt from that .
Kimtoon-Ashley may have learned, but he’s a gambler at heart, and gamblers never truly learn
Newkie
I wouldn’t say we were lucky we got hammered. We’re a bit more prepared now with Taylor back, Good being signed up, streete looking good enough for the step up and tav/perch able to play the position effectively. Still agree we could do with a Sakho-like signing though.
Andy-Not as hammered as we could have been. Colo only missed a few weeks. Imagine if he had taken Taylors place, we’d have been completely fecked and probably wouldn’t have gotten Europe.
Taylor being back is no more prepared than we were last season-he was fine then but he’s got time now again to show his injury proneness during next season, and now we’ll have a shedload more matches. I think a Tav/Wilo partnership will be decent on paper, but Willo isn’t really a leader and Tav is too green, not really a great second string. As for Streete? Maybe Carling cup early rounds….
Newkie
True we would’ve been fucked if colo was in Stevos place but if that’s considered lucky then Arsenal were lucky that they didn’t have RVP injured and Spurs didnt lose modric to a season long injury.
Still the same thread. Is Toonsy ok or is it just work?
I usually only pop in every now and then to have a laugh at what people are saying, but I’m a bit concerned for Toonsy’s health atm.
Or is this a new diy management strategy – write your own article and comment on it?
Vegas, last I heard his internet provider was giving him grief… could be wrong.. Maybe for a laugh we should revisit Troy’s article “football is a simple game really” don’t think I have laughed so much in my life.
Wow that was unusual. I just wrote an very long comment but after I clicked submit my comment didn’t appear. Grrrr… well I’m not writing all that over again.
Regardless, just wanted to say superb blog!
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