Anger management!

Keep the faith!
I’ve been trying to limit the time I spend on Newcastle blogs, Twitter and rumour mills the last month or so, not wanting to get caught up in the transfer frenzy.

I used to like rumours but people can take them to seriously and berate the club for not tying up transfers that were never on the cards or (like Crouch) criticising for something that may not even be true. Since the friendlies have started I’ve been back on though, and generally it seems that the mood is low. Why?

We haven’t spent any money!

This grates me. Why do we need to spend on transfer fees to improve? We compare ourselves to the scum whenever we can, but I for one much prefer how we are going about things for us. We tried the spending money to buy success and look where it got us. I sometimes feel like if we had spent £25 million on the signings we had made people would have been so much happier just because we are ‘spending money’.

Our squad is too thin!

Yes we need a few players, but we have over a month of the transfer window left. I don’t particularly want to bulk our squad out too much with Wes Brown and Seb Larsson type players as they have reached their peak and aren’t going to improve. It would be much more productive handing squad roles to our youth players.

We have no ambition!

If someone had said a year ago that we would have signed: Cheik Tiote, Hatem Ben Arfa, Demba Ba and Yohan Cabaye we would’ve all been over the moon.

We can’t rush things. If we do too much to quickly then whatever is left of the team spirit will be gone. Say we sign a right midfielder, where would he play? Even if we play five midfielders it would mean leaving out Joey Barton or Jonas Gutierrez. Not really a great reward for a terrific first season back in the Premier League.

The players want to leave!

Let them leave. The players are playing on our angst to try and win favour and improved contracts. Jose Enrique crossed the line with his Twitter comments.

Lets be objective about it. We’ve had four seasons of Enrique, his first was poor, the next saw us relegated, one saw him play very well in the Championship, followed by three quarters of one very good season in the Premier League. Is that worth a pay rise? We signed him as a Premier League team and he has only given us one good season in that league. I don’t think that is enough to be held to ransom. We saw how he played the last few months of the season and his attitude is clearly a bit sh!te.

Routledge backing him his ‘no ambition’ claims, well honestly Wayne, if that was true why are you still on our books?

Basically since we got promoted we have signed some genuine class. We have seen the emergence of players like Leon Best, Tim Krul and Shane Ferguson. Without injuries our starting XI against Arsenal would have seen a minimum of three new faces from our main team last year (including Ben Arfa). I think one striker, a back up left back and a back up right back are all we need so lets not get all doom and gloom when we have actually made huge strides in the last year or so.

Howay the lads!

A very positive outlook on things by Solanos Trumpet!

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176 thoughts on “Anger management!

  1. I totally agree!
    please do not rush things, and be careful about our choice of signings.
    give me a good solid striker and i will be satisfied 😀
    We do need some balance within the squad and a good backbone of good solid players, and we will get that next season if we dont sell out, and only get 1 or 2 players in.

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  2. Great post and i agree on all your points

    Our fans and maybe some of our players seem to think we can go from newly promoted to top 4 in the 2 seasons. I just want improvement every season and through out the whole club.

    I couldnt care less about the 35 million im so sick of hearing about it. I dont care how much we spend as long as we bring in quality players.

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  3. I agree. I think the team is stronger than last seasons – if you look at people’s fantasy formations there’s always at least one quality player that has to be dropped which shows that we have some strength in depth.

    We need a striker, someone to shut the doom and gloom mongers up if nothing else. I actually think we will sign Erdinc, there’s been too much said for it not to happen and with PSG spending 40 million on Pastore and 10 million on Gameiro and with Nene and Hoarau on their books already I think he’ll have to move to get first team football.

    People constantly compare us to the scum, its cringe worthy and serves no perpose but to give them ammunition.

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  4. Excellent blog! Not trying to blow up your trumpet or anything 😳
    I’ll get my coat…….. 🙂

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  5. I for once doesn’t agree the need for striker yet. I somehow believe the need for defenders are more priority. Especially fullbacks.

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  6. Absolutely spot on, Cabaye was a £17 mill target for **** 2 years ago. I think already we are in a much better position than last year. Our midfield is awseome, could play a variety of formations.
    Ba/Best/Shola and 1xmore quality striker with Benny or Cabaye in the hole when we play one up front will do me.
    Enrique is toast, so a quality replacement and Naylor from Swans as backup.
    Cover for Simpson be nice but Tavernier/Gos/Saylor could play there.
    So 3xplayers less the BULLshitter=net 2xmore and sorted. With the quality kids we have coming thro`, this could be top 8, much prefer our strategy than scum. 😆

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  7. As always, thank you for looking on the bright side!

    Check out Everton. What have they done? Nothing. Are the fans unhappy? Probably. But Newcastle have done so well, so quickly in comparison.

    As for Sunderland, they need record gates and a top 5 or they will be flat broke by Spring. Let em’ spend.

    A striker, a few reserves, and we are good to go. Can’t wait!

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  8. yeah, we’ve “signed some genuine class since promotion”. We’ve also sold some. Young promising players don’t tend to hang around for long at NUFC under Ashley I.E. Bassong, Beye, Milner, Carroll etc. I think this is what frustrates/angers the fans so much – it certainly pi55es me off no end.

    It’s the uncertainty that constantly overhangs the squad that I have difficulty with. Ashley’s 5 year plan gets another year added to it every season.

    1 step forward, 1 step back.

    I’ll be happy if we spend 15m before the window shuts, and don’t get rid of anyone – I don’t think that’s too much to ask. Players are only cheap if they’re either a) a gamble or b) ****.

    I’d like fatty to open his wallet for a proven player or two, that’s all. It’s what ‘good’ football teams do!!!

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  9. Maaaaaaaaaate!

    With risk of sounding like a kiss-**** – I agree with every word!! Everyone’s gone like a “smith’s” album before a ball is even kicked. HTL!!!!!!!!

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  10. OK yeah, he was 28 or 29 when we signed him so maybe not ‘young’, and relegation also played a part in him leaving, but my viewpoint still remains.

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  11. Greetings aliens! I come from a planet called Earth, where we also have a club called Newcastle United and owner going by the name of Mike Ashley.

    Just to full you in a bit: our owner has turned a profit of nearly £50m pounds in transfers up to now: systematically dismantled a unified dressing room; culled key dressing room figures; removed the singing section of the stadium; demonstrated cronyism by appointing cheap management options; banned journalists from the stadium who question his ownership; brought in 7 free players from the last 9 options.

    True we have brought in some talented players – of whom only one so far – Tiote can be classified as proven quality in this league, or committed to the club. The merits, suitability and fitness of the other singings are really only a subject of speculation at the moment, but even if they all end up successful signings – what this has to do with failure to make good on promises to reinvest the unforeseen cash win fall of £35mil (plus other 15-20 supposedly allocated to club’s recruitment) is anyone’s guess.

    Has it been successful? Well he has overseen an unlikely relegation in his short time at the club, and has subsequently gone on to destroy the very thing which enabled our resurrection the following season: dressing room unity and the supporters positive spirits from the terraces.

    The positives mentioned above are all purely speculative; the negatives associated with Ashley’s tenure however are facts, of the cold hard unimpeachable variety.

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  12. …as the article says, we still have a month left. I hope this window shuts leaving me ‘satisfied’ rather than fkin pi55ed off like most of the others over the last 5 or 6 years have.

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  13. i blame d arab guys for givin us dis low self esteem which repuires to ***** when we arent spending money

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  14. Could not have said this any better, I have only began reading this blog the past 3 weeks and this is the first comment ive placed, glad to see people have the same opinions as me.

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  15. You don’t want Sebby Toonsy? Get the fecker out of your FF team then!

    Anyway re-topic, there’s loads of teams that haven’t even made a move in the market-Chelsea haven’t bought one player and they’re the big spenders…people shouldn’t be angry that we’ve improved as a squad for low outlay, it bodes well and means more money can be spent at a later date or in an emergency…possibly 😆

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  16. So right! Great to see a decent response to the doom-mongers and habitual whingers.

    What people don’t seem to understand when they demand we spend more money is this: it’s not Ashley’s money; it’s the club’s – which means ours. Ashley’s put in plenty and has clearly said ‘no more’. That means that every penny spent comes from OUR pockets – whether that’s in season tickets, shirts or a pint in the pub showing the match.

    So why are people so keen to see it pissed up the wall immediately rather than spent judiciously over an appropriate period of time?

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  17. If some of the hot heads would think back to AP having Colo playing midfield last year due to no other bodies being available they might cool down a bit. Now the mid field is chock full of talent. I’d even say that a player like Gosling may end up on defense being unable to push Tiote, Cabaye, Barton out of the way, let alone Ben Arfa. No shortage of talent in goal. Ba looks to be a smart quick lad, and who knows, NUFC mgt. just could be playing head games with Ranger to unlock that box of talent. Think now, just where would Capt. Tugboat fit in trying to run with Sly and the wings, or pick out a pass like Gosling has shown in the USA?

    Maybe all the other Prem teams have improved more than NUFC and I’ll be disappointed, but right now, I’m feeling this team is a better class than last year.

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  18. @14 – “removed the singing section of the stadium” – Name another club that has a singing section? The whole ground should cheer not a select few. This isn’t Ashley’s fault.

    “failure to make good on promises to reinvest the unforeseen cash win fall of £35mil (plus other 15-20 supposedly allocated to club’s recruitment)” – Who said there was 15-20 million to spend on players plus the 35 million and when did they say it? Bottom line is, the team has had some investment, but because its not marquee signings for stupid money then all our players are ****. I’d also like to point out the window isn’t shut yet.

    “has subsequently gone on to destroy the very thing which enabled our resurrection the following season: dressing room unity and the supporters positive spirits from the terraces.” – Bollocks, how can you say that when the season hasn’t even kicked off yet? What is it based on? Opinion? – fair enough but its far from fact.

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  19. whilst I f*ckin despise Ashley and hate Llambias even more so, and hate the fact that I don’t trust the people in charge of the club I love and feel like punching the screen every time I see either one of their smug faces (Llambias especially – is it just me or was that c*nt born with a face that warrants a good hard slap?), I’m far happier supporting the team we have – which is starting to look very tidy – then constantly whinging about the state of affairs. Granted, I have my outbursts – a shameful tirade on this very forum not so long ago – but it’s far better to get excited about the footy than constantly going on about the finances and bureaucracy of the way the club is run. Boater, do you not get enough satisfaction whining on Ed’s blog every day? Do you honestly have to come on here and start having a go at fans that can’t be arsed to listen to the same old sh*t being trundled out about how sh*te our club is?

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  20. Welcome to Earth, Boater!

    Until or unless fans establish ownership of a club, they’ll never really have any control.

    We can enjoy the debates that come with passive fandom and call it a day or start moving toward fan ownership a la Barcelona and others and then have some sway on board decisions, club presidency and so on.

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  21. Just to full you in a bit: our owner has turned a profit of nearly £50m pounds in transfers up to now:
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    Which doesn’t come close to equaling the losses and debt the club has incurred during that period.

    If the club, made “profit” of 50M since he’s been here I would agree. Instead, it’s hemmoraged money.

    A little sense, please.

    Great article by the way. Couldn’t agree more.

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  22. Boater… c’mon mate. Good counterpoint, but you’re pushing the ol’ envelope of reality mate!

    Cronyism – yep. Spot on.

    Singing section… what, the one he set up in the first place? Stupid decision to lose it, mind so with you there.

    Journos: he banned them for making up *****. If only others had the spine.

    As for this lot:

    “turned a profit of nearly £50m pounds in transfers up to now”
    Two things: he hasn’t made any profit, just a nine-figure loss so far. The club has made a profit, but you’re conveniently forgetting all the fees that would have eaten half of that. And if you’d rather pay out £50m right now and have the squad back that he started with… well, I’m glad you’re not running the club. He’s improved the squad no end and made money doing it. Bloody brilliant as far as I’m concerned.

    “systematically dismantled a unified dressing room”
    Er… what unified dressing room? The one that was there just when he took over, when all our stars were plotting their escapes? Yes, he made some god-awful decisions 3 years ago that made it worse, but since then we’ve seen the biggest resurgence of spirit I’ve ever heard of.

    “culled key dressing room figures”
    Is that the one we got three times the going rate for, or the idiot who thought we were his pension fund?

    We’ve had two leave in two windows, during which we’ve seen, what… six good players in?

    Let’s face it, a lot of people are just desperate to continue hating Ashley, and when the facts don’t fit that they just get even angrier.

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  23. @ Rod @10 where are all them players now? benching it or playing sh*te. Carrol and Given are the only two players he sold that pissed me off and even then Carroll was to good to turn down.

    And do you think Cabaye is sh*it because we got him for cheap?

    @14 Ashley hasnt made no profit at Newcastle he has spent alot more than he has made. imo we were heading towards relagation long before Ashley came in and maybe even bankruptcy. You could say he brought the unity in the dressing room.

    He has also improved the training facilitys and frozen season ticket prices.

    We all know Ashley has made alot of mistakes but he is learning how to do things right and he is putting us in great shape for the financial fair play rules. which alot of teams will struggle to do.

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  24. “systematically dismantled a unified dressing room”
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    How did i miss that line? Is that the dressing room led by our esteemed captain Michael Owen, full of lazy mercenaries, who loved the club so much they took the first helicoper out of town when times got rough?

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  25. Whumpie, you do my head in with comments like that, our club? when did that happen then, last time i looked, for the past 5 years we have merely been the idiots who have lined Ashleys pockets for not a lot in return.
    The only part of what you say is that is remotely true is that most of the money comes from our pockets, all he has done is protect his investment with the minimum amount he can get away with.
    The club is his, he is the club, we support it as best we can despite the owner being a complete kernt.

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  26. Well written and some people are still in love with the money$$$$…. get a life!
    We have done well in the transfer and like most i would like to see a quality striker and a CB and if Jose leaves then we need a replacement and MA and co are doing their job.
    1: Jose is not wanted by anyone as this article explains he is not proven enough.
    2: AP knows we need striker and am not going to give away money for some1 who is only there for money. I like the new system, you work hard and earn your money(look at smith been here for more than 4 years and earns 60K week in week out without going to work! I wish i could do that)
    3: Look at any club if a player wants to leave then the club cant do much but to get best value out of him…(ManU sold ronaldo)! hey no club is bigger then players and players need to respect it and get on with the job as we all do!)
    4: I would never want to pay for some1 who is not going to bring income to me, general comment so why keep players who aint gona get a game time.
    5: Youth’s are more determined to prover than proven player and dont give everything and the team moral is down. Bring in a young striker that is confident like we have harrisV and madiA… these 2 are confident and i like the way they play… goals or not we will need to give these young boys a chance to show us what they can do and am sure they will carry this club forward if they love the fans!
    Good luck for the season and i can’t wait till 13th August…..

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  27. 1 Shay Given
    2 Stephen Carr
    3 Titus Bramble
    4 Jean-Alain Boumsong
    5 Craig Moore
    6 Nolberto Solano
    7 Emre Belözoğlu
    8 Kieron Dyer
    9 Damien Duff
    10 Michael Owen
    11 Obafemi Martins

    That was essentially our starting eleven when Ashley took over – there’s certainly some decent names in there, but who would honestly take that over our current team? Now consider whether you’d take that, as well as crippling, spiraling debt with an owner making absolutely no attempt whatsoever to stem it, over our current situation? I know which I’d rather.

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  28. Don’t forget when we spend 35million it goes to a competitor, and gives them 35 million to spend……I know it’s giving Ashley an escape clause, but true all the same!

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  29. @ Robert we have hardly lined his pockets i think we stole his shoes

    I say again Ashley has spent alot more than he has made at OUR club 😉

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  30. Ii agree we have made progress, but after loosing Carrol and then Nolan i (perhaps idiotically) thought we would get a good rated striker in to replace these losses… we get promices that the money will be reinvested into the club, i dont believe this is the case, what i expect to see is another smoke and mirrors tactic by Puppet Parwho? and the Fat ****** claiming to be in for Rooney or some other drivel to keep the fans at bay and then at the last minute, it drops, after offering a wage of 20p a week and a packet of fruit gums (or something else entirely unrealistic). Yes im a fan, ye si want us to do well, but im sick of folks saying we’re doing well, we’re making progress…other teams are making more and at this rate we’ll still be sitting at the bottom of the table not pressing into the top 10….put a couple of injuries into the mix and we are royally screwed

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  31. Good read and gotta say I agree! Been some great posts the last couple of days!

    On another note, I live down in the South and I have been seeing a definite increase in replica shirts being worn oot and aboot. Very reassuring that the faith is still there and we’ll be on the way up very soon!

    Howay the lads!!

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  32. Robert – not “our club”, “our money” Yes, Ashley owns the club and we have no power. But the money in and out of it is ours, not his. He’s stopped subsidising us now, and fair enough.

    Incidentally, I’d love to have the Barca fan-ownership model… but I honestly don’t think any fans’ consortium could have got the club going in the right direction quite as well. Let’s face it, Barca are financially screwed just like most of the clubs at that level. I think if we just tread water, we’ll see half of them plummet past us.

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  33. Santi, we are supporting his financial venture with cash, we didnt steal anything from him and the only pain we have given him is verbal,no other club in the country would treat its fans like ***** time and time and again and get away with it, they have tested loyalty to the limit.

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  34. Santii, those players are benching it, not playing ****, and no I don’t think Cabaye is **** because we got him for cheap, I think he’s a gamble. If he wasn’t, he’d have cost more than 6m. But getting Cabaye for 6m instead of 26m has ****** all to do with my whinge. I wish people would stop going on about “not having to spend big to buy good”. I just want MORE players, better ones than half the w@nk we currently have in our squad of 25. When myself as a fan sees all that ‘player money’ going out and not coming back in I think I reserve the right as a fan to whinge.

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  35. Whumpie, FFS, are you thick or what?
    The profit and loss is his, we do not own the fecking club!
    He is not subsidizing us, its the other way on you numptie.

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  36. sorry for some spelling mistakes earlier… but I dont see people getting this… if you want to run the club your way then buy the club and try managing it!.
    Its really hard and on top our ticket prices are chaeper than any of the bigger clubs and we bi**h n morn… lik p*ss**s….
    Get a reality check!

    GO MA and co but get me a Striker and a CB, if JE leaves then good but get a replacement too…
    CAO

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  37. Spot on article – agree withe every word. One striker a replacement left back if Enrique goes and no major outgoings and I think we will have an exciting squad. The players we have brought in for next to nothing look excellent Carr has certainly done his homework and all credit to him. If we had had to pay true market value then Marveaux, Ba and Cabaye would have cost over £20 million.
    Some people hate to hear the cliche but HBA and Gosling will be like new signings and Gosling has been getting very good reviews pre-season so it bodes well. Even the young lad Abeid has made an impression and might be banging on the door.

    I still think we will get a decent striker in and a replacement left back if necessary and we have the strongest midfield I can remember for years. The season can’t come quick enough.

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  38. Bang on WHUMPIE and pretty much everyone else.

    I don’t really have a massive problem with the ownership, I dont like how they appear to operate, but I think they have stabilised a potential mess pretty well. We could have turned into leeds.

    They made some stupid decisions in the early days and a few since but really thats about it.

    I’m actually pretty **** happy about all the signings so far this summer. I do think a decent striker in and a couple defenders would make a huge difference to next seasons campaign, but already we are looking much much more capable.

    I’ld really like to see a good push for a cup this season, rather than just concentrating on the league.

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  39. @boater in my opinion last seasons dressing room atmosphere was the most stable we’ve had in a pretty long time.

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  40. Good thread.

    The midfield competition is something we were crying out for so delighted with that, Not so about the lack of depth up front and at full back.

    I know the mackems sullied him last season but Onuohas still kicking his heels in man city reserve teams at altringham and other random non league pits, Would give us another option at centre half and a pacier better defensive option at right back than our current lot.

    Something like that with the oft mentioned striker and left back regardless of jose leaving or not then id be relatively happy…

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  41. FFS, now I get it, should have paid £15mill for Cabaye, £10mill for BA and £7mill for Marveaux but because we got them for the same price as legless mercenary Nolan Ashley/Dellboy/Pardwho screwed us. TOSSAS!!!!! :mrgreen:

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  42. @Robert

    Then dont buy the shirt or dont go see the games or dont do any of the things that you think gives him money because your whinging because you paid for a Newcastle shirt or a ticket?

    @Rod i agree i want better players than some of the squad players we have.
    But how can you be pissed off that we sold players that are benching it at other clubs so and i would say not good enough for us. Apart from Milner and Carroll of course who both wanted to leave.

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  43. Santi, i have supported this club through thick and thin since the 60s, dont you fecking dare tell me what i can and cant do with this club, i will say what i want and if you dont like it, f*ck right off.

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  44. I didnt tell you to do anything im just pointing out the reason you are whinging is because you are paying for these things. So either stop whinging about lining his pockets or stop buying his stuff simple. Idiot

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  45. Not that I have any love of defending Ashley, but I’m pretty sure Pardew’s direct words were “the 35mil will be reinvested”-he never mentioned anything about spending it all this summer…

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  46. OK lads, it’s getting a bit tetchy now. I think at the end of the day we all just want the club to do well. And I’m sure none of us would disagree we need to replace Andy Carroll, bring in a good left back, and not sell our good players. And that is likely to cost at least 10m. If we do that by the end of the window, great. If we don’t, I’m gona hunt down fatty and skin him alive.

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  47. Santy, if you are going to make a point and build an argument around it, make sure its true, you talk about the finances and team building as if its got something to do with you, it hasnt.
    Yes, i am an idiot, i must be arguing with a tosspot like you.

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  48. Robert mate simmer down! Raging out like that’s not gonna get you anywhere now is it 😆

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  49. @Robert

    The only point i made was that he hasnt made a profit at newcastle which is true so please stop spouting nonesense.

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  50. Whumpie–true that fan ownership does not stop a club from making bad financial decisions, but it also allows for the correction of those decisions by intelligent, active fans.

    I don’t support the Barcelona model in the hope of replicating their success (though I’d love that.) I support it out of a basic belief in democratic ideals and that kind of high-falutin’ stuff.

    If we’re involved as owners or members, we have a say. Otherwise, fandom is an expensive pastime that puts money in some other dude’s pockets and leaves all the decisions to them. Democracy vs. dictatorship, so to speak.

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  51. Did we not sign Tiote and Benny last season? I agree with the sentiments expressed but it’s looking very déjà vu at this moment.

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  52. Santi, This is the point you made in case you forgot –
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    July 29, 2011 at 16:45
    @ Robert we have hardly lined his pockets i think we stole his shoes

    i can put up with anyones view point but that was just plain ridiculous.
    I apologise for any offence caused, end of rants.

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  53. Evening Big Dave, sure robert shinton will be on for a bit or agey bargey later get back to the stats quo

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  54. Overall the signings have been good, there aren’t many on here who disagree. I think we will play some decent football and finish around the middle of the table. More than anything else it is the ability of a few clubs to spend unheard of amounts of money (far more than they take in) that ruins the Prem as a really competitive division. That isn’t going to change because of the loopholes in the new system that will be introduced. The Prem is such a big business now that nobody dares tackle its problems. We will join several other teams trying for 6th 7th or 8th place this season and we should see some very good football. But unless some of the big spending clubs actually have to start covering their losses or actually run into real financial trouble we can’t realistically reach the top 6. I agree with Keegan about that. He told the truth which was his only crime.

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  55. but it also allows for the correction of those decisions by intelligent, active fans.
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    Nice sentiment, but the club would be in administration within the month

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