I’ve been trying to think hard for positives to come out of the game today and I just can’t. People will no doubt blame tactics like they are the be all and end all of everything, but to me that is taking a fair portion of the blame away from those responsible for this result.
I’ve said many times that I can handle defeat. I’m not one of these that will spit the dummy and get all reactionary over a result. I do however have one very simple expectation, and that is that the players who wear the black and white stripes give it all they’ve got. That’s why some of the “lesser lights” of the history of NUFC are my favourite players, because they gave everything. Today at least, not one of them did and for that they should be embarrassed.
To stand any chance of beating Manchester United you have to be on it from the word go and the Newcastle players just weren’t. Tactics, tiredness, motivation or just plain poor performance, or perhaps even a combination of all of them, ensured that Manchester United soon asserted themselves on the game.
Danny Welbeck should have put the away side ahead within five minutes but his shot from a Michael Carrick backheel was scuffed straight at Steve Harper from 12 yards out. That should have woken the home side up, but it didn’t and just three minutes later Manchester United were ahead courtesy of a thumping header from Johnny Evans who lost Mike Williamson at the corner.
Just four minutes later there was nearly more embarrassment for the hosts when Steve Harper decided not to clear Mike Williamson’s backpass. Under pressure from Danny Welbeck, Harper lost possession allowing Welbeck a shot at an empty net which fortunately rolled wide of the goal.
With 15 minutes gone Harper was once again called into action as Wayne Rooney fired a freekick towards goal that Harper palmed wide. However from the resulting corner the away side made it 2-0 through Patrice Evra who was allowed a free run at goal after being ignored by Jonas Gutierrez. The French fullback stole in at the near post and nodded past a helpless Harper.
It wasn’t until 18 minutes that Newcastle managed to get their first sight of goal with Jonas Gutierrez flashing a shot wide of goal from 20-yards which seemed to signal some form of fightback from the real United. Ba fired over from a Yohan Cabaye corner whilst Cabaye himself fired a drive over the bar. Further chances for Gutierrez, Ben Arfa and Cisse followed although none of them were exactly guilt-edged as half-time loomed.
Half-time: Newcastle United 0-2 Manchester United
Newcastle had to do something in the second half if they were to find a way back into the game, and they very nearly did within five minutes of the restart. Shane Ferguson lofted a cross into the box which David de Gea flapped at before Demba Ba headed against the crossbar. The rebound fell nicely for Papiss Cisse who headed towards goal only to see the Manchester United ‘keeper claw the ball away from behind the line.
To me it looked over the line in real time, but TV replays have shown that it might not have been the case. The rules state that the whole of the ball must be over the the whole of the line and to me, on closer inspection, that didn’t seem to be the case and, begrudgingly yet correctly in my view, nothing was given. If it was it might have been a different game…
Newcastle had their spell of dominance and Manchester United soon reasserted themselves. Demba Ba nodded wide for the home side while Wayne Rooney and Tom Cleverley spurned chances for the away side. Robin van Persie then found the back of the net but was correctly judged offside. That happened on 65 minutes and just six minutes later the game was put beyond any doubt when Tom Cleverley’s shot found the top corner of Steve Harper’s net. Cross or shot? I don’t really care to be honest. It counted and that was that.
The game pretty much petered out from then on with everyone involved with the home side feeling deflated. Mind you the blame lies firmly in our court for starting off so slowly. You just can’t do that against Manchester United and they made us pay by pretty much killing the game off in the opening 15 minutes.
Up next, a two week international break, followed by THE derby.
Howay the lads!
Newcastle United: Steve Harper, Davide Santon, Mike Williamson, James Perch, Shane Ferguson, Hatem Ben Arfa, Yohan Cabaye, Cheik Tiote, Jonas Gutierrez, Papiss Cisse, Demba Ba
Subs: Jak Alnwick, Danny Simpson, Gael Bigirimana, Vurnon Anita, Gabriel Obrtan, Sammy Ameobi, Shola Ameobi
Manchester United: David De Gea, Rafael, Rio Ferdinand, Johnny Evans, Patrice Evra, Michael Carrick, Tom Cleverley, Shinji Kagawa, Danny Welbeck, Robin van Persie, Wayne Rooney
Subs: Anders Lindegaard, Scott Wooton, Antonio Valencia, Paul Scholes, Anderson, Ryan Giggs, Javier Hernandez
Attendance: 52,203
Good article about the very wrong headed potential Wonga deal:
http://www.shieldsgazette.com/news/business/latest-news/newcastle-united-owner-warned-about-wonga-deal-1-5003464
Payday loan companies came under fire from the Bishop of Durham, the Rt Rev Justin Welby, earlier this year.
He described their activities as “morally wrong”.
He said: “When the payday lenders talk about an amount of money in cash terms that you pay extra at the end of the month, then it does not sound too bad.
“But the reality is interest rates in the thousands of per cent. It is just morally wrong.”
Fans Should Own The Club(Quote)
I dont think the FA have any legislation to take retrospective action against Suarez for being a filthy diving, cheating, racst, bastid. Unfortunately.
😯
Beardsleys Boots(Quote)
And another:
http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/north-east-news/evening-chronicle-news/2012/10/08/72703-31991035/?#ixzz28iApet4L
Wansbeck MP Ian Lavery was also very concerned.
The Labour man said he would return his two platinum club tickets and break off all ties with the club if it went ahead with the sponsorship deal.
The MP, who is also chairman of Ashington FC, said: “It is absolutely outrageous that a club would even consider this.
“I have more and more people coming to see me and saying that as a result of job losses or benefit cuts they are being forced into these terrible but legal money lenders whose interest rates only then trap them into further debt.
“It would be sickening to see the club linked to this and I would certainly break off all ties with them.”
And Newcastle Council leader Nick Forbes, said: “NUFC need to think carefully about the message this potential sponsorship deal will send.”
Fans Should Own The Club(Quote)
FSOTC – all of these people are completely correct in what they say, but it will fall on deaf ears in the Newcastle boardroom. Ashley and his gang share the same morals as the Wonga bunch. It’s all about the pound signs for Cashley and Co.
If morals were something Ashley had, our ground would still be SJP.
Sharpy17(Quote)
It doesn’t matter if its morral or not.
These things dont affect Ashley, as he has no morrals either.
I’m quite certain the backlash to this deal will be enormous.
I cant see anyone buying a shirt etc.
In saying that, it doesn’t seem to bother Blackpool or Hearts(?)/Hibs(?) cant remember which. They sell plenty shirts with wonga on them.
so maybe we all have it wronga and ashley is right after alll. 😯
Beardsleys Boots(Quote)
bb@149 ,Knew it.
So glad so many high profile people are coming out in condemnation of this deal with Wonga ,let’s hope our owner heeds the warnings of bad publicity ahead if it goes through like. I have always bought a shirt for me and the lad but I will never ever wear a shirt with those bloodsuckin leeches name on it.
KIMTOON(Quote)
People buy the shirts for their team, not the sponsor, but in effect it winds up being an advertisement of the sponsor.
I was watching a game with a friend at his house and his wife said “Are you a fan of AIG or Emirates?”
Fans Should Own The Club(Quote)
of course the fat controller will be super pissed off if he has to pull out of the deal because of the backlash. I love it.
Beardsleys Boots(Quote)
Time to give the other Utd a bit of credit. SAF sets up his teams 4-4-2 with two wide men. I can’t remember the last time he set up a team that was significantly different to this. Until Yesterday. When he set up with no wide players at all. kept it very narrow, Kept possession and with 4 CM’s (inc Rooney) bossed the midfield. How the hell AP was to predict that I have no idea. However within 20 minutes we had adapted to their plan and changed the set-up. 2 poorly defended corners had unfortunately led to 2 goals down by that time. However, once we adapted we took the game to them and even before HT SAF had had to change his tactics to cope with ours. For once we didn’t have any luck. A goal disallowed which may have stood in other games (although Cisse should have put it beyond doubt). Again to be fair we had plenty of luck at the other end, or at least Harper did.
I’m not saying that we played our socks off, we were flat at times, but we were not far off getting a point. Manchester Utd were imperious at times and we coped as well as any side could be expected to when they turn up like that.
I’m reading posts, even on here that make it sound that we have the skills, ineptitude and attitude of the w***ers who got us relegated. Which is cr**
I enjoyed watching Big Sam’s West Ham playing like we used to. It was almost a trip down memory lane. Thankfully we have moved on. Yes it is painful to be on the receiving end of one of SAF’s master classes, But to simply blame everything Newcastle for the result is depressingly simplistic.
Rant over. Medication due.
premandup(Quote)
BB, I find it hard to believe we can’t find a more credible company to sponsor us I would love to know how many were in to being our sponsor, I would take anyone other than a legalised loan shark company.
KIMTOON(Quote)
In a completely irrelevant post, I could have used some guidance like this when I was in high school:
http://gothamist.com/2012/10/07/high_school_guidance_counselor_fire.php
Fans Should Own The Club(Quote)
Kim/BB/FSOTC – no way will Cashley pull out of this deal based on what people say of think of it. If the backlash was an issue they wouldn’t be this far into negotiations with Wonga.
Their arguement will be that nobody kicked up a stink when they sponsored Bpool, and that the backlash is personal to them and the name change and that the fans would react like this regardless of who it was taking the sponsorship on.
I don’t know many but I can’t imagine too many billionaires suffering from morals.
Sharpy17(Quote)
People are also saying Santon was no better on the right than he is on the left.
I agree, in the particular game he wasn’t. However, I think it gives the team more balance. Plus I also think he would get better with time.
Pardew had the right idea playing Fergie on the left to give us width, but he simply isn’t anywhere near as effective at the back as he is in midfield.
Jonas puts in one hell of a **** but for me, he is a defensive midfielder who can bring the ball out of defense. He is very poor in the attacking third.
Cabaye likes to play in the middle of the park, just ahead of Tiote, but that means our midfield is too far from our strikers and therefore out strikers have to come back to fetch the ball, meaning we play in our own half, or they have to try win balls hoofed up to them which simply isn’t their strength.
Then only time we have possession in the opposition half it is out wide, but then again we have a problem. Nobody in our team seems capable of putting in a decent cross.
Nearly all our “wingers” like to cut in which is fine occasionally, but not all the time because it slows the attacking momentum.
JJ(Quote)
_________________________Krul____________________________
Santon__________Taylor____________Colo________________Jonas
_______________Tiote_____________Cabaye___________________
Obertan________________Ben Arfa____________________Ferguson
______________________Cisse/Ba____________________________
Would love to see these eleven start at some point during the season.
JJ(Quote)
JJ, I agree> 164 it’s the only way the two up front could possibly be effective.
Sharpy@162 ,There wern’t too many kicking up a fuss over Virgin though so I can’t see how they could say we’d be like it with anyone who sponsored us.But I do agree they won’t give a flying fig what we think.
KIMTOON(Quote)
JJ, I don’t understand why Ferguson can’t be effective from left back. Why can’t an overlapping fullback provide width and crosses into the box? In an ideal set up this is where your width would come from. The best teams have wide fullbacks that push forward at every opportunity and the wide mid drops for cover. I think left fullback is a good spot for him, he bombed forward quite well yesterday given our 2 goal disadvantage.
aussie magpie fan(Quote)
Aussie ,I think it’s more that he’s just not strong enough defensivly ,going forward he’s great but he isn’t the strongest guy I have ever seen ,he’d need to beef up a bit to play FB for me .He’s defo more a LW imo.
KIMTOON(Quote)
Aussie Fergie is not a LB he is a LW so your spiritual leader Jabba may just get us one
Big Dave(Quote)
Was reading some Man u forums they were quite worried at the prospect of playing us you know and very chuffed to get a win in what most consider a really tough place to go. Scant consilation I know but good to see the top clubs still consider St.James a fortress like.
KIMTOON(Quote)
Kim, I see what you are saying but what happens when Fergie pushes forward and comes up against the big fulbacks of the opposition? He has to come up against hard arses no matter where he plays. I don’t buy that light weigh excuse, I think he has more grit than he is being given credit for. 🙂
aussie magpie fan(Quote)
Why isn’t he a left back BD? Please tell me why he can’t get forward and provide crosses from that position?
aussie magpie fan(Quote)
*consolation >169 😳
KIMTOON(Quote)
I don’t think it’s that simple really Aussie as there have always been tiny wingers and forwards able to evade big DMF ,FB and CB as it’s all about the speed ,cross and dribbling skills, plenty are strong on the ball but don’t fit the natural FB mould.
KIMTOON(Quote)
Aussie ,with the proper coaching I wouldn’t rule out his ability to be a commanding fullback who bombs forward I just don’t think he’s that yet.
KIMTOON(Quote)
Auusie getting forward isn’t the problem his defensive game isn’t strong enough and thst isn’t really a problem because he is not a LB so doesn’t need to be strong in defence.
We should have players playing in the position they specialise in, not making do to save Jabba money .
Big Dave(Quote)
Aussie,
Fergie’s is far more dangerous in the attacking third whipping in crosses.
Yes he can do this by overlapping as a fullback, but not as often as he could on the wing.
He is also very small. He is tenacious, but you need your fullbacks to be decent at cutting out and challenging for diagnol balls.
Fergie is never going to win these which will put us under immense pressure.
His positioning is not one of a defender either.
Also, its not just the overlapping. Fergies strength is his speed and ability to put his head down and run past players.
He can’t take a risk to do this if there is no cover behind him. If he got tacked we would be completely exposed at the back with two centre backs that have no pace to cover.
He is a winger and should be starting there.
JJ(Quote)
True Kim but I don’t actually think he is that small to be honest, Assou Ekotto from Spurs is of similar size and he holds his own. I hope he makes a go at it no matter where he ends up 🙂
aussie magpie fan(Quote)
Aussie,
Ekotto is far stronger and far far better defensively.
JJ(Quote)
Don’t want to take anything away from Man U who deserved their win but has diving to get a penalty in the opponents box been transferred to defenders to obtain a clearance free kick? Or is it my biased over active imagination? I was surprised that so many of our corner kicks and free kicks into the Man U box ended in free kicks to Man U or was that due to Howard Webb’s over active imagination?
Groucho(Quote)
Beardsley was hardly a giant except on the pitch.
Groucho(Quote)
BD & JJ, Fergie will end up as a LB because he won’t make it as an out and out winger. He hasn’t got the out and out speed/ the guile or the engine from what I have seen. I’ve seen him move into good area’s but I haven’t seen him run past too many defenders.. He will have more impact over lapping from fullback and working with his mid. You are both wrong but that’s o.k, everyone is entitled to an opinion, even wrong ones 🙂 🙂 🙂
aussie magpie fan(Quote)
Aussie,
When Fergie walked out the tunnel I thought he was the mascot. He could well end up a defender later in his career. At the moment he is a far better winger.
JJ(Quote)
JJ 🙂 be nice to little Fergie 🙂
aussie magpie fan(Quote)
My last post on Fergie, it’s zzzzz time for me… Fergie has played his best football for Newcastle in the left back position, not the wing. Nite all
aussie magpie fan(Quote)
Well now we know that Aussie is a poor fisherman and knows nothing about football… 😆
JJ(Quote)
Aussie keep dreaming 😆
Big Dave(Quote)
Kim – sorry I went missing, grass cutting duties 🙁
I meant more about the stadium naming rather than shirt sponsorship when I was on about kicking off.
JJ – I agree with that 11 particularly your main point of trying Santon RB and Jonas LB.
Jonas is a headache for me coz his workrate warrants a start but his influence on the game in midfield doesn’t IMO. So why not try him at either LB or RB and Santon the other side.
Sharpy17(Quote)
In an ideal world, aussie is right, but unfortunately Fergy is NOT a good enough defender to fill the role aussie wants.
IMO Santon is far better at LB, but if we want to play him at RB, then home to manure isn’t the game to experiment in.
Oh and Jabba is a Kunt
Beardsleys Boots(Quote)
apparently he was seen on tv laughing and joking with owlheed, even tho we were 0-3 down.
I prefer it when he stays away from SJP. He is an unlucky jinx.
Beardsleys Boots(Quote)
Sharpy ,Ah I see ,yes the stadium name will always be a contentious issue .
KIMTOON(Quote)
Stevo-What are you on mate, I like basically all our players, I’m usually the one defending them 😯
Kimtoon-re yesterday. Yeah, Ba was selfish at times, and has been this season. So has Cisse though, they’ve both shot when they should have passed. So has Benny. The difference, for me, is that Ba can actually pass, Cisse seems to struggle with long passes and through balls. Which is okay I guess, because its not his natural game. It does mean though that he can’t contribute too much when he’s not leading the line.
Newkie(Quote)
Kim – In terms of shirt sponsors, to be honest Wonga would be nee worse to me than our last few tbh. My uncle and Grandad both worked for S&N breweries who obviously brewed Brown Ale, they were both laid off from there. Fortunately they both got good redundancy packages, which they put into Nothern Rock – only to loose it all when those Fwits screwed up.
So I know Wonga set ridiculous interest rates, but im not sure they are sooo much worse than sponsors we’ve had in the past.
That said, I still hope for a late bid from a more reputable company.
I know it’s about the club maximizing the income, but I’d love for us to promote local businesses, like Sage or someone like that. It may not bring as much money in, but it could help grow those businesses and hopefully employment in the area.
Sharpy17(Quote)
Imo getting Wonga as our sponser would be the worst thing Ashley/Lambarse have ever done.
Forget Keegan getting screwed over, ground name changes, relegation. Football is football. Wonga knowingly ruins lives.
Don’t believe in the whole “boycott” the team stuff as it would only ever badly effect us. However there’s no way I could stomach buying a top with Wonga on.
SolanosTrumpet(Quote)
Size is massively irrelevant to whether you can play full back or winger.
One of the players many of us were hoping to sign this summer was the giant Clyne ❗
As someone said, he would have to come up against the same size players wherever on the flank he played.
The argument just doesn’t work: If he was a winger he would be playing against a full back, but he can’t play full back as he’s too small so surely the full back in question would be bigger than him 😕
If wingers in general are small then if anything he should play full back so that on the whole he is coming up against these small wingers. 😎
Playing full back is all about positioning, anticipation etc. I qould quite like Fergie to play full back simply because I think he has all the credentials to be an absolute class player there. Whereas I think he will only ever be a decent winger.
Either way, delighted with how he’s come on after nothing much last year.
SolanosTrumpet(Quote)
I’m not really sure about the whole Wonga thing. I’m not as outraged as many are, but then I’ve never been in a position where I had to use one of these companies. I agree they are immoral, but many successful companies are. Football isn’t exactly a bastion of morality either, for numerous reasons. And whatever people say about Ashley being greedy and the like, he’s certainly nothing on Abramovich who personally siphoned off the wealth of his own country and people and, whilst nothing has been proved, has imo certainly had people “knocked off.
” Yet how many unhappy Chelsea fans do you know? Do any protest at Ambramovich’s billions or note how their players may well have been bought with blood?
Newkie(Quote)
I know I’m probably putting myself out on a limb here, and I admit to knowing little about Wonga.
But as a loan company don’t they operate under a regulating body?, are they under any kind of investigation for ruining lives? and isn’t it the individual that agrees to the terms of a loan?.
As I say, I don’t know much of Wonga but I would suggest that Northern Rock and other banks ruined more lives.
Sharpy17(Quote)
Newkie I have never used a payday loan company or a loan Shark but I do know how they operate and it’s wrong they are preying on people that have hit a brick wall and need help badly
Sharpy yeah the people agree to there terms etc but in their eye’s they have no other option and see it as a way out, lots of the charges etc are hidden and they’re not up front about them and if they fail to repay the money back they will pay a big price for it, I know some people have paid with their life because they got into so much ****. as for Northern rock I beg to differ as the 2 are completely different
Big Dave(Quote)
Agree with big dave.banks are no angels but even they aren’t as cold and brutal as these companies. come on their adverts even attempt to target daft kids wanting some weekend drinking money, clueless to that they are getting into.
SolanosTrumpet(Quote)
Dave-True I do get the way they operate its just…well, they provide a service which people are willing to pay for. My mum used a loan shark once to pay for christmas stuff for my bro and sis when they were kids, this is going back 35 years or so, and loaning a weeks pay took her about three or four months to pay off completely. Some of her friends just got stuck in the cycle, christmas after christmas losing thousands of pounds.
I agree it is immoral, but its a service that people are willing to pay for. Like drugs, you can blame the dealer, but someone will always run an operation that is successful-and unfortunately people always seem willing to use such services. And that’s capitalism 😕
Newkie(Quote)
And obviously, loan companies are worse than banks, and loan sharks are worse than both. These companies aim to rip people off and maximise profit, but they are bound by trading regulations and they certainly won’t be sending in the heavy’s to break bones, although financial ruin isn’t exactly a great prospect.
All that said, I don’t really want them as a sponsor and I’m surprised they were actually willing to pay more than Virgin, yes they have adverts, but these kind of companies always struck me as propper penny pinching tight bastards…
Newkie(Quote)
Newkie I think back then most people had tick men and it was just the norm, but I am completely against Wonga and similar companies and yeah I know it’s a service and if people didn’t want that service it wouldn’t be there but as I said they’re not up front about how much you pay back plus hidden cost and the implications if you fail to pay up on time, they’re parasites 👿
But thats not really the point because as I said I don’t think they’ll be the sponsors anyway and I just think that has been put out there to stir up **** and make people see SD as the lesser of 2 evils 😉
Big Dave(Quote)
If peole are ill-informed enough, or desperate enough to go to a company like Wonga, then it is the persons own perogative. If the market wasn’t there Wonga wouldn’t be making so much money, and they wouldn’t be interested in sponsoring the toon…
Are you going to shut down all the off-licenses because they sell drink which ruins far more lives ?
Munich Mag(Quote)
But Dave-nothing is “upfront” with the bad issues. Like Munich says, you don’t see Carlsberg adverts showing people dying of liver failure. Everything these things like Wonga can do to you is in the small print, and like most things if it sounds to good to be true-that’s because it is.
But yeah, I can’t really see them being the sponsors…you may be right with the rumour mill 😆
Newkie(Quote)
Newkie, I still wouldn’t like to see Wonga on the toon strips to be honest. Hopefully the toon have someone more respectable lined up.
Munich Mag(Quote)
the current rate for a wonga loan is 4214% 😯
plus a £5.50 admin fee.
scary ****. 😈
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MM speaking as someone that had a 15yr drink problem I was always well aware of the damage I was doing and the dangers of drink, as do my kids, and most other people are brought up knowing that its bad for you and can cause all sorts of problems, same as smoking and drugs, but I really can’t see the comparison between that and payday loans they are parasites and I have seen the damage they cause to families that didn’t know the risks and were never made aware of the risks so I think we’ll have to agree to disagree on this, cause it makes my blood boil what they can do to nice people that have never done a bad turn on anyone, but through a **** hand they have been dealt and circumstances beyond their control they seen a payday loan as a way to get out of trouble but little did they know their trouble had only just begun 😈 Payday loan companies are legal but the way they conceal stuff is all wrong and they have been reprimanded loads of times for not disclosing detail that they should have, and they still continue to carry on the way they do because the people that use them have no voice
Big Dave(Quote)
Beardsleys Boots…I wonder what it is about the those figures which Wonga’s punters cannot see ? “Scary” is a freakin understatement !!
I’m more interested in how they call there debts back in 😯
Munich Mag(Quote)
Big D, I hear where you’re coming from mate. Unfortunately the world is full of companies and individuals willing to exploit the weak and/or unfortuante, whether it is money, drugs, drink, sex….you name it. 🙁
Munich Mag(Quote)
Yup. They usually have their APR on their adverts. Still, i’m sure it was only like 3700 this time last year, business must be good…. 😯
Newkie(Quote)
MM – its all on the website mate.
if you fail to pay on the day agreed, then its a £20 charge plus interest. They then apply to your bank for payment the next day. This is repeated daily for upto 60 days, by which time you are well ******. The debt is then sold on to debt collection agencies, additional fees added etc etc.
Proper bunch of kunts imo.
Beardsleys Boots(Quote)
Hopefully we have another more suited sponsor lined up. At the end of the day Branson seemed like a steady lad, but obviously something wasn’t quite right. Some deal going on there between a couple of billionaires ?
Munich Mag(Quote)
Beardsley and Newkie…summat wrong somewhere … kin ‘el 🙁
Munich Mag(Quote)
Most people repay their loans, as agreed.
There’s a reason why they are making such vast profits.
Its legalised robbery. A licence to print money almost.
The company was only set up in 2007 and yet they are now making profits of over £135M 😯
Its money for nothing……
Beardsleys Boots(Quote)
Harris Vuckic and Dan Gosling both carried off on stretchers in seperate incidents tonight playing for the reserves/U21 at ******* Villains.
Also an appearance of Xisco 😯 providing the assist for Adam Campbell to score the opening goal.
Beardsleys Boots(Quote)
Does anyone know who is behind this Wonga company … 😉 🙄
Munich Mag(Quote)
Xisco, get him in there, he’ll turn our season around …. 😉
Munich Mag(Quote)
If you loan £400 FOR 30 DAYS you pay back an extra £125.48 😯 with Wonga. How can that ever be morally right or even allowed .
We basicly have people using them because the banks won’t loan to them for instance if they are unemployed or classed a credit risk ,what are they to do if the leccy needs paying in the middle of winter ortheir kids need feeding. They are feeding on peoples hard luck and misfortune ,You can’t compare it to off licences or fags people choose to take that risk where as most normal people don’t set out to be skint.
KIMTOON(Quote)
Beardsley….. Vukic carried off on a stretcher, with a splint on his leg, and wearing an oxygen mask. Doesn’t sound good at all… 🙁
Munich Mag(Quote)
They make that much? Bloody hell 😕
Yeah…I can’t see it being SD because I think Ashley would plan ahead too much for that to bother making a deal with virgin, surely there must be some compensation due to Virgin (even though they said both could terminate when they wanted it) I still think Wonga would be too stingy to pay more than Virgin, but with profits like that maybe I’m wrong…
Newkie(Quote)
no mate, sounds serious 😥
Beardsleys Boots(Quote)
Man, we’re even looking light in CM even though half our squad seem to play there 😯
Newkie(Quote)
Hells bells ,we have no luck with injuries at all. 👿
KIMTOON(Quote)
Just logged back in and expected to have got my **** chewed for my last posting, but im pleased to see it’s being discussed – that has always been the thing I admire about posters on this site.
Can’t believe Vuckic isinjured again, and Gos for that matter, plus Xisco playing for the toon 😯 – like a new signing 😀
Sharpy17(Quote)
” like a new signing ”
Sharpy, I think my general positivity may have rubbed off a little too much on you and sent you mad 😆 😉
Newkie(Quote)
Vuckic and Gosling both injured again , i think its time to give up on both of them . Far too injury prone , it does not matter how much talent they have , if their bodies cant stand up too the physical demands of the game its time too move on . Even if they have both taken a kicking it’s a injury too far for both .
Axel(Quote)