A penalty from Hatem Ben Arfa and a fortuitous strike from Yoan Gouffran cancelled out Loic Remy’s opener for QPR giving the Magpies just their second away win of the season.
It wasn’t a great performance as both sides struggled, but with the bulk of the pressure on United I’m extremely happy to say that we came out on top in the end which was ultimately all that mattered. People can be critical about the way we played or the football on show, but getting the three points and sorting out which league we’d be playing in next season mattered more than any of that yesterday, and on that score it was job done.
The reason we’re safe is because Aston Villa and Wigan play each other on the final day of the season next week, and both sides can’t overtake us. Mind you I have a feeling that it could all be over by then anyway as Wigan must first travel to Arsenal and win on Tuesday to ensure they enter that final game against Villa with at least a fighting chance. Still, at least we’re out of it…
Newcastle started off poorly and struggled to get into the game. Indeed it was an error on the part of Mathieu Debuchy who gifted QPR the chance to take the lead by conceding a penalty although replays have subsequently shown that Debuchy’s infringement was outside the penalty area and shouldn’t have resulted in the spot-kick that Newcastle target Loic Remy duly fired past Rob Elliot.
However just seven minutes later United were level after Jose Bosingwa decided he wanted to swap shirts early with Hatem Ben Arfa leavin referee Lee Probert little choice but to award a penalty to the away which Hatem Ben Arfa smashed home via the underside of the crossbar.
United could have grabbed the lead soon after had Papiss Cisse’s powerful header not been ruled out for a marginal offside call, but good news was on the horizon as Jose Bosingwa dropped another clanger by leaving his back pass to Rob Green short which allowed Jonas Gutierrez to close down the former England ‘keepers clearance with the rebound falling to the feet of Yoan Gouffran who volleyed home into an empty net from 25 yards out.
Gutierrez could have sealed the points in the second half but Shaun Derry had other ideas and cleared his header off the line leading to a nervy ending which saw Newcastle reduced to ten men ten minutes before full-time after Rob Elliot picked up his second booking after being adjudged to have handled outside the box.
As I said, it wasn’t pretty but I always knew it was never going to be a game for the archives. However we did get what we wanted from it which was three points and Premier League safety assured, and for that alone I’m over the moon!
One more game to go and the inquests and planning for next season can begin in earnest. I don’t know what the club have planned regarding the future of Alan Pardew, for transfers in or out or anything like that, but at least we know we can plan to be in the big league again.
Howay the lads!
QPR: Rob Green, Jose Bosingwa, Nedum Onuoha, Clint Hill, Armand Traore, Andros Townsend, Jermaine Jenas, Stephane Mbia, Junior Hoilett, Loic Remy, Bobby Zamora
Subs: Brian Murphy, Fabio, Shaun Derry, Park Ji-Sung, Adel Taarabt, Jamie Mackie, Esteban Granero
Newcastle: Rob Elliot; Mathieu Debuchy, Fabricio Coloccini, Mike Williamson, Mapou Yanga-Mbiwa; Cheik Tiote, Yohan Cabaye, Jonas Gutierrez; Hatem Ben Arfa, Yoan Gouffran, Papiss Cisse
Subs: Steve Harper, Danny Simpson, James Perch, Vurnon Anita, Sylvain Marveaux, Gabriel Obertan, Adam Campbell
Attendance: 17,278
Cheers Ice 😎
Oblong(Quote)
AMF right thats you in my black and white book then 😈 😈
icedog(Quote)
Richie made me do it. 🙂 🙂
Aussie Magpie Fan(Quote)
i make a very bad enemy
icedog(Quote)
Wellington.
We know that Pardew would love Carroll back. If he did come back, I’d have no doubt he’d revert back to two up front. With Carroll and Cisse.
He wouldn’t drop Sissoko or Cabaye, which leaves Ben Arfa either playing out wide or behind the front two.
He’d probably pick Jonas to defend the attacking defending Hadaira.
So:
_________________________Krul_________________________
Debuchy_________Taylor__________Colo____________Hadaira
Ben Arfa_________Sissoko_________Cabaye___________Jonas
_________________Carroll________Cisse________________
or
_______Sissoko_________Cabaye___________Jonas_______
_____________________Ben Arfa_______________________
_________________Carroll________Cisse________________
How do you think he’d line up we signed Carroll?
JJ(Quote)
I heard Ice helped invent the wheel 😀
Next season is going to be so weird with all these new managers coming i hope we get one to. Strange season on its way 😀
Santii(Quote)
JJ, there is no point picking teams until we know who is in and who is out next season… who knows who will be left standing come August..
Aussie Magpie Fan(Quote)
AMF kna you cannot blame richie on a monday
icedog(Quote)
icedog says:
May 13, 2013 at 13:26
well everyone has there view and rightly so,but ive been going to sjp longer than some of you lads have candles on your cake and seen the good (not much) the bad and the ugly,but imo we were so close to having a real good team in a long time,jabba has let us down when nearly there,but pardew screwed up the players in a number of ways with his ****.
ive heard on the grapvine that toon will make a statement tonight i just hope its true and jabba bins pardew
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I agree with this. We have talent at the club. We need reasonable summer investment and a new manager and I think we can fight for the top 6 again.
MDS(Quote)
Just jokes Ice 🙂
Aussie Magpie Fan(Quote)
Aussie,
There is no point picking teams anyway, because they have no effect on the decisions the manager makes this time of the year or in August. But it keeps me occupied… And it’s fun to pretend… 😆
JJ(Quote)
Aussie @221 – sounds a bit like hocus-pocus to me. I think that if the team were really in that bad a state, some of them would be conscious of it and voice their concerns.
There are non-mystical explanations for what went wrong with the season. We’re at the top of the Injury League and there’s no chance of anyone knocking us off that perch, either. (http://injuryleague.com/injury-league/) The added travel to Europa League fixtures has cut into the team’s preparation and training time, helping to explain the injury problem and causing further problems.
Wellington(Quote)
theres another in the book @231,going to be some sorry people
icedog(Quote)
Ice, It’s nearly tuesday here mate 🙂 🙂
Aussie Magpie Fan(Quote)
JJ-Can you really not see the irony in that statement of yours? I pointed out that Pardew’s reply was NOT as black and white and some morons seemed to see it, as if Pardew was willing mediocrity on us. All I do is try and find the middle ground, to apportion blame or praise in a reasoned manner and I tend to avoid the polarised viewpoints. It’s not the same for you, everything last year was luck luck luck, I mean not one bad thing happened did it, like David Luiz avoiding a certain red card leading to our defeat vs Chelsea and a serious long term injury to Steven Taylor. You have such a blinkered approach it’s mental.
Your wit is as pathetic as your reasoning to be honest mate, but nice try at trying to be funny, even Chuck is more entertaining 😆
Newkie(Quote)
Ice,
Its ok if you don’t remember Shearer. It’s understandle if you don’t know your history. When you were at school there was no History… 😉
JJ(Quote)
JJ@230 – I don’t think the Carroll story has any truth behind it. If Pardew’s plan was to play with a target man, there would be links to other players of the same type. But the forwards we’re linked to are very different – mobile (Aubameyang) or technical (de Jong) players.
The reason that we keep getting linked to Carroll is two-fold. First and foremost, his agent is clearly agitating for a move (with the blessing of Liverpool) and we’re considered no mugs in the transfer market. Two, it’s considered a “popular” move, so club may well have put an insulting offer on the table just to be able to say they tried.
The lad’s gone and he’s not coming back.
Wellington(Quote)
I am not discounting the injuries,travel etc Welly. But some people don’t speak up when they are not happy with things, not everyone voices their real concerns and try and push on regardless. Hardly hocus pocus mate, more like human nature.
Aussie Magpie Fan(Quote)
Ice – I hear that you have so much life experience that you’re wiser than the rest of us.
…
Not sure I did that right. 😕
Wellington(Quote)
Re ,the statement tonight ,didn’t Lambias say they were going to announce some big deal a little while back ,wonder if they been waiting for us to be comfirmed safe 😕 .Doubt it’s about Pards as that wouldbe on club website first not on radio surely.
JJ ,See you been coming under heavy enemy fire 😆 keep fighting you’re corner mate . 😉
On SSN on the ticker bar it says Benitez says he’s keen to stay in England as his family love it here and he has his agent activly working on that right now 😉 can’t see him at Everton so you never know.
KIMTOON(Quote)
Aussie – I’m not claiming that everyone would speak up if there was something wrong. You need to hold that nobody in the squad would speak up if there was something wrong, and I find that unlikely Even if nobody went public, such concerns would have found their way to the top. If you’re right, then Pardew will be sacked shortly.
Wellington(Quote)
I never said everything last year was luck. But luck played a huge role in us finishing fifth.
I was happy with the results last year. But I don’t think Pardew deserved as much credit as he got because I didn’t think we were as good as our results suggested.
We could well finish 11th this season. But I think that we have been as poor if not worse than our results have suggested. That’s my opinion. A lot of it this time has been due to bad luck.
But even without the bad luck, Pardew isn’t the man I want as our manager. I can’t stand his football. I see no future with him in charge. So why stick with him for the sake of sticking with him like some others do?
“All I do is try and find the middle ground”.
Fair enough, but you aren’t finding middle ground. You are pro Pardew. You defend him as much as I criticise him.
Middle ground would be somewhere in between your views and mine. So say Aussie’s view. 😉
JJ(Quote)
Aussie Magpie Fan says:
May 13, 2013 at 13:59
JJ, don’t get me wrong, I truly believe he has lost the group and needs to go but only if It is for a big step in managers and I don’t mean anyone who’s name starts with Roberto
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Pretty much how I feel about it. Injuries, europa, and throwing several Prem-newbies into a regulation fight are reasonable explanations for a dip in form. But, Pards seems to have lost the players based ont their performance and overall lack of effort and cohesion. Plus I don’t feel that Pards is a manager that could keep as in the top 6-7 consistently.
Last year was great, but much of our success was built on a dominating run of form form Ba, Ben Arfa and Cisse. But now Ba is gone, Ben Arfa is always injured, and Cisse looks lost. We need somebody who can win with a Plan B.
MDS(Quote)
Who’s to say the concerns haven’t been voiced Welly. Have you never voiced a concern at work and been given an unsatsfactory answer?.. you generally work on regardless but not with commitment that you should..
Aussie Magpie Fan(Quote)
Wellington,
We, if that’s the case, then Pardew clearly doesn’t have much say over the transfers we make, and he is definatelty not the man to get the best out of the type of players we are looking to recruit.
Personally, I don’t want Carroll back. But with Pardew’s current tactics, he’d be a good signing to try win the lofted kicks up field.
JJ(Quote)
MDS@248 – “Last year was great, but much of our success was built on a dominating run of form form Ba, Ben Arfa and Cisse.”
I think Cabaye’s occasional cameos and the odd contribution from Colo had something to do with it, too. 🙄
Wellington(Quote)
MDS@248 , what’s a plan B ain’t seen one of them all season 😆
KIMTOON(Quote)
“Who’s to say the concerns haven’t been voiced Welly. Have you never voiced a concern at work and been given an unsatsfactory answer?.. you generally work on regardless but not with commitment that you should..”
Aussie 😯 I’ve never heard you make more sense.
I just think, despite wanting to do better, the players lack motivation and conviction because they simply don’t have 100% faith in the cause or the leadership.
JJ(Quote)
JJ-Aye, well fair enough then. Not that we’ll beat Arsenal but like you said, could still finish 11th, with a very tight points tally. Last year we had good luck this year we had bad, that would average us out at about 7/8th which is, unfortunately our lot historically and what will more than likely be our lot under this regime, given our financial outlay.
I think your opinion of my pro-pards might come on the back of our discussions, which is fair enough because I am definitely pro pards in that regard. To say however I am happy with him or the shackling of some of our more offensive players is wrong though. I have disagreed with tactics since the first game of the season, it’s just I don’t come on here and complain about them every week. I try and be a cheery chap. And that’s why Aussie is my positive thinking wingman and follows my lead 😀
Newkie(Quote)
@251. Of course they did. You could include Tiote in that as well. But the team didn’t go on that great run until those three were played together up front.
Look, I was fine with pards until the last 4-6 weeks or so. But towards the end, the team looked terribly lost at best, or quit at worst, and I question whether he has any answers for it. I’d rather see him replaced than a complete makeover fo the squad. One of those two have to happen IMO.
Kim @252. I’m not really sure, but I hsaw some supporters from other clubs discussing it the other day and it sounded canny to me. 😉
MDS(Quote)
Doubt Benitez would come to toon, but if he’s desperate to stay in EPL there aren’t that many options…
Everton: Looking for a manager but his standing at Liverpool probably puts this one out the running. Would probably be his best option otherwise…. unless of course
Man City: By all accounts Mancini is about to be sacked, team full of world class players and money to spend to buy more – would they go for Benitez though, more likely they’ll look elsewhere
Fulham: Martin Jol has had a tough season there and wouldn’t be suprised to see him sacked
Newcastle: wages could be an issue as Ashley will only offer an incentive based contract with a low basic wage, on the upside we do have some quality players that he may be able to get more from
Stoke: Small fanbase and would be a huge and costly project to turn them from a physical hoofball team to a team that plays the way he would like – not sure the owners would want to invest that much money
Swansea: Well if reports are to be believed he may be up for the Everton job, however it’s in Wales enough said
Norwich: like Newcastle escaped relegation with a game to go, unlike Newcastle they seem happy enough to be lower mid table – would be a surprise to see Hughton sacked but he had a very poor 2nd half of season
Thats probably about it from the teams available as far as I can see
stevep(Quote)
I genuinely think some of it is down to the fans. How many managers have we seen come and go? Always laying the blame on them, for years we had the wage bill of a top 5 club but not the performances to match.
Personally I feel the players get transferred here, get treated by lords by the geordie nation (unless you’re Williamson/Simpson), get full of it and realise they won’t get the blame when it goes tits up.
Cabaye has been given every excuse under the sun this year. First it was because his bloody mate hadn’t joined the club!!
I agree with Aussie that it may see a dip, but surely a dip of Coloccini/Krul proportions, ie 20% drop or something. These flipping players have been horrendous. I don’t care how bad people think Pardew’s tactics are, half the goals we have let in recently have been stupid individual mistakes and pure lack of effort. You can blame Pardew for the lack of effort, I’ll blame the ones who are standing around ball watching.
SolanosTrumpet(Quote)
As I said previously my main gripe is the sheer negative way we have been playing especially once we go a goal up . It’s really uncomfortable watching 70+ mins of backs to the wall stuff ,even more so if we are playing for the draw 🙄 since when did Toon play that way . Why did he not use the youth and pace of young Campbell more often ,if he’s not ready why have him on the bench to stagnate,better to loan him out. Don’t wanna see him on the bench all next season with no playing time that’s beyond stupid. And I would love to know exactly what Anita has done to upset Pards,that anyone gets on before him. The guy has worked hard in the gym gaining body strength but has hardly had a chance.
KIMTOON(Quote)
Wellington,
We have individuals with some considerable talent. They are inevitably going to have the odd cameo or show of genius.
But as a team, we have performed poorly. The individuals have natural talent, but its the managers job to mould them into playing as a unit and to make use of their ablities in a structure that brings the best out of each individual.
In this regard. I think Pardew did well previously. Not brilliantly, but well.
He got the best out of limited players, like Willo, Perch, Simmo, Raylor, Jonas, etc. We would scrap and then hope for individual skill to get us a wonder goal.
Now he has been given technical players (five more) who aren’t used to scrapping but actually playing technical carpet football. The fighters/scrappers have been left out in the cold. The balance is now beyond his level of ablity.
He still sets the team up to scrap…
The result is that this season he has been appauling… The level of ablity of the players is now beyond Pardew’s ablity to coach them. So we need to move on…
Its nothing personal. I would love stablity, but not if it doesn’t take us forwards. We need a more technical coach. Simple as that!
All the rest. The stupid comments, the excuses, the bad substitutions are all minor things for me… That just add to my irritation and wind me up.
JJ(Quote)
Aussie – and this is why I say that you’re trading on hocus-pocus. There just isn’t the evidence for what you’re talking about.
JJ – That’s question-begging. The Carroll link came up because you were trying to prove that Pardew wanted a target man to play long ball football. Where’s the independent evidence for that being Pardew’s aim for the team? The tactic was adopted prior to Ba’s departure, but in more recent games the passing statistics are very different:
0-3 Sunderland: 58 long, 336 short passes
WBA 1-1: 60 long, 235 short passes
0-6 Liverpool: 60 long, 511 short passes
West Ham 0-0: 69 long, 283 short passes
QPR 1-2: 55 short, 314 short passes
For yardsticks, here’s some season averages:
Swansea 63 long, 472 short passes
WBA 61 long, 335 short passes
Wigan: 62 long, 422 short passes
(all statistics from whoscored.com)
Wellington(Quote)
From tonight’s chronicle;
Alan Pardew is understood to have been assured of his future with Newcastle United next season.
It is thought that Pardew will still face an already scheduled end-of-season review.
However, despite some candid comments about the possibility of being shown the door in the build-up to yesterday’s narrow win at QPR, sealing survival appears to have eased the pressure.
Owner Mike Ashley was at Loftus Road for the 2-1 victory but will meet up with Pardew and managing director Derek Llambias after next weekend’s final game with Arsenal.
After a season of struggle, United could still finish in the top 10, but Pardew hailed the spirit of his dressing room.
He told the Chronicle: “We’ve had to put up with some absolute rubbish.
“The people who said there were rifts were stupid.
“You can’t get draws at teams like West Brom and West Ham and a win in London against QPR with that sort of thing going on.
“It’s rubbish. It’s an absolute disgrace.
“And those people who said it and brought it to the attention of everybody outside of Newcastle for no reason but being malicious, will be crying into their beer.”
Pardew also felt that the three points can lift spirits during what has been a drab campaign.
He said: “It was a great win for the football club and a great win for the city.
“It was a great win for the area too.
“Sunderland got a draw and I hope they are safe. We want to play them next year.”
United had to hang in the closing stages against Rangers and endured a nervy last few minutes when keeper Rob Elliot was sent off.
An emotionally charged Pardew said afterwards: “I was aggrieved about some decisions – especially the goalie.
“You have to be right with those decisions. It was definitely a borderline decision.
“With 10 minutes to go of a game of that magnitude? Blimey, you can’t make that call. But he did.
“Luckily for us we had Harps, who came on as if it was a Sunday afternoon and he was going down the pub with his dog.
“That calmed everybody. It certainly calmed me down.”
Troy Stavers(Quote)
Welly……The half arsed efforts on the park is evidence enough that the players heads aren’t right. Please enlighten me if it isn’t, is it all paredw, injuries and 1/2 a dozen euro games.. Newkie sort this fella out like you did with JJ 🙂
Aussie Magpie Fan(Quote)
JJ@259 – that was a sarcastic remark about last season, not this. More reading, less typing, please. 😎
Wellington(Quote)
Solano@257 “These flipping players have been horrendous. I don’t care how bad people think Pardew’s tactics are, half the goals we have let in recently have been stupid individual mistakes and pure lack of effort. You can blame Pardew for the lack of effort, I’ll blame the ones who are standing around ball watching.”
But that’s the point surely . It’s known that it’s him that coaches the defence ,so obviously his methods are lost on our defenders cause they and half the team don’t seem to know what they are supposed to be doing. Many blog posters have stated that we often look like a bunch of strangers playing together and pundits have also said as much too. If he is trying to impose a style of play on players that they arn’t used to it will cause havoc ,same goes for playing players in unfamiliar roles as in the case of Sissoko and Cisse . You are implying that every player is at fault and no fault lay with Pards which I can’t accept.
KIMTOON(Quote)
Solano,
I agree, the players must take blame. But the fact is they don’t have the same love for the club the supporters do.
For them, it is a job. And when they become disillusioned with the job/boss/ approach. The are going to struggle to be motivated. Despite the money they earn.
They have to believe they are heading somewhere. There must be progress. There must be enjoyment! If it were one or two players adopting this attitude, then I’d say sell them. They’re bad apples.
But its way more. And that means the blame lies firstly with Ashley’s lack of ambition preseason. And Pardew’s negative approach.
When we got the new signings there was a little boost. Players came out of their shell. They began to believe things would now change! There was some ambition and for a while we got better results.
However, soon they realised that the approach from the manager was still the same. He played to “not lose”. He was happy sitting back on one goal leads that we often through away by allowing a momentum shift.
Players want to play for winners. Pardew is NOT a winner. He doesn’t know what its like to win. He won nothing as a player and has won nothing as a manager! He is a scrapper.
JJ(Quote)
Aussie @262 – Actually, I think it’s all injuries and European travel. (Note that the team immediately behind us in the injury league is Aston Villa, who have also underachieved.) I know this view is not as exciting as your theory, but I’m not trying to compete with Dan Brown here.
Wellington(Quote)
Kim@264 – in fairness, a number of our players are strangers to one another. 😉
Wellington(Quote)
Wellington,
I know it was about last season. I don’t think we have ever played well offensively as a team under Pardew. Defensively, yes, but only the first third of last season. The second half we defended terribly too.
We don’t contruct goals, we never have… it’***** and hope.
Always has been…
Please keep up fella… 😆
JJ(Quote)
I’m a bit gutted we don’t look like we are moving in for Benitez. I wish Ashley would show more ambition.
The daft thing is, I know he never would, yet there’s that 1% of me that thinks, he might surprise me.
Shame.
Troy Stavers(Quote)
I wonder how much profit we make after next season.
Troy Stavers(Quote)
JJ@268 – I apologise for being so charitable. You don’t know what you’re talking about.
Wellington(Quote)
Yes but your theory is all hocus pocus too, you can’t say we would have played better had we not been in europe or if we had no injuries.. so like you, I have my views on why we are poor. We will never know if they are right or not..
Aussie Magpie Fan(Quote)
Pardew told the Chronicle: “
“We’ve had to put up with some absolute rubbish.
“The people who said there were rifts were stupid.
“You can’t get draws at teams like West Brom and West Ham and a win in London against QPR with that sort of thing going on.
“It’s rubbish. It’s an absolute disgrace.
“And those people who said it and brought it to the attention of everybody outside of Newcastle for no reason but being malicious, will be crying into their beer.”
😯 😯
Troy Stavers(Quote)
Troy ,Yeah it will be another footballing mistake by Jabba ,it’s on SSN ,he is saying he wants to stay in England and has his agent working on it. With all the extra revenue this new season brings are we to believe he can’t afford £4M for a coach of Rafas calibre 🙄 😳 Fecking skinflint rag merchant .
KIMTOON(Quote)
Jezzuz Troy, you and your bro don’t half like cutting and pasting other peoples quotes on here 🙂 🙂 🙂
Aussie Magpie Fan(Quote)
Welly @267 ,Well they are certainly strangers to our managers tactics I know that much 😉
KIMTOON(Quote)
Wellington @260
80% of the short passes would have been in our own half.
Don’t try to distort statistics mate 😉
http://www.whoscored.com/Regions/252/Tournaments/2/Seasons/3389/Stages/6531/TeamStatistics/England-Premier-League-2012-2013
Please note: NO OTHER SIDE PLAYS MORE LONG BALL PASSES THAN NUFC.
We average 7 long passes a game more than Stoke who have Crouch! Nine more than West Ham who have Carroll!
So, my point was, if Pardew WANTS to play long ball, which he clearly does. He should buy Andy Carroll.
Make sense now? 😉
JJ(Quote)
Right I’m off to paint a window frame while I contemplate where it all went wrong . 😉
KIMTOON(Quote)
“It’ll be uncomfortable for us both, because we’ve both underachieved. Him as an owner and me as a manager. We need to find out what the reasons were and then it’s for Mike and hopefully with me to decide how to go forward.
TOUCHY~~~ 😯
AngelOfDeath(Quote)
@Kim
If Everton (who are probably favourites to get him) can afford him then we should be able to.
This is why I don’t expect a top manager to materialise at our club.
He has been stung with paying off fat Sam and KK and doesn’t want to get stung again IMO.
However, I believe you have to invest in the manager. A great manager can get the best out of players and save you a fortune. It offsets itself.
Rafa would definitely take us up a level. My money would go straight on us getting in the top 6 next season.
Troy Stavers(Quote)
@Aussie
I only cut & paste Pardews quotes. B&B does it with the bloggers. 😉
Troy Stavers(Quote)
Troy I thought you wanted to keep pards?
In other news pardew is set to resign this eve …. latest one doing the rounds
Liam Southern Toon(Quote)
Oh, the statistics would seem to prove that you don’t know what you are talking about.
If Pardew employs tactics, which see us as the team which plays the most long balls. It would seem we need a target man.
If we haven’t scored from a corner kick in over 290 attempts, because, by Pardew’s own words, “we don’t have enough height!” it would appear we need a target man.
So going back to my point. If I were Pardew. I would definately be wanting to get in a target man.
If I were Graham Carr, I might be thinking along different lines. Perhaps a young striker with increasing value PAE? Because that is his job.
But Pardew doesn’t know how to use the signings Carr recommends in his system. They don’t suit the system… Hence the **** football and **** results.
JJ(Quote)
Aussie@262-I’m too lazy pal, get Munich on the case! 😉
Newkie(Quote)
@LST
I hope that was a joke. 😯
Troy Stavers(Quote)
I guess the question is.. if Pardew stays, how does he right the ship? And, can it actually be turned around or is it beyond him?
Aussie Magpie Fan(Quote)
Troy – I forgot to put a 😆 on the end.
Personally cannot see pardew resigning one little bit……..
Liam Southern Toon(Quote)
Besides I think JJ can handle himself today 😀
Newkie(Quote)
@LST
Ha! 😆 😆
Troy Stavers(Quote)
@LST
Agree not a chance in hell like. He will milk as much money as he possibly can get before he is eventually sacked for reasons stated perfectly by JJ 😀
Santii(Quote)
@Aussie
How can anyone on here know the answer to that question. You just have to sit back and see who he brings in and sets out his team and tactics for next season.
He’s said he will take questions from the fans and analyse where it went wrong and work out a plan to rectify things.
I like that approach. He is willing to listen and hopefully change things. You would never get fat Sam changing his ways or listening to fans.
Troy Stavers(Quote)
Shut eye time.. thanks for nothing Newkie 🙂 🙂
Aussie Magpie Fan(Quote)
Aussie@286-Think we’ll find that out by October.
Newkie(Quote)
OptaJoe @OptaJoe
40% – Of all managers he has faced over 10 times in the Premier League, Sir Alex Ferguson has the worst win rate against Kevin Keegan. Era.
😳 😳
AngelOfDeath(Quote)
I saw a shot of fat ash at the QPR game he looked a relieved man. He wont want to come that close next year to dropping out the league.
Could that be reason enough to spark change?
Its going to go one of two ways; 1) he backs pards we spend well and aim to keep our better players. 2) he sacks him brings in a foreigner
Liam Southern Toon(Quote)
Troy, after 2 and a bit seasons, do we really not know what Pardew has left up his sleeves to turn things around? I’m not sure he has any thing more to bring to the table.. oh well time will tell..
Aussie Magpie Fan(Quote)
Hopefully we never have to find that out Aussie @286
Get him out teeee foooookk!!!!
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@JJ
That is bollocks. Didn’t we set a club record for clean sheets in a row in the second half of the season? (with Williamson playing might I add)
@Kim
I’m not implying Pardew isn’t to blame, I just think he’s worthy of a lot less of the blame than some fans think he deserves. Defence is heavily linked to familiarity with players around you, and we’ve had a nightmare in that aspect this year.
I just can’t believe people are willing to stick up for some of the players. How can anyone blame Pardew for the goal we let in against QPR? I think 4 of the 6 goals we let in against Liverpool were due to nothing but pure laziness. Sure “PArdew should motivate them”, but if we let the players think they are in the right then they will walk over every manager that comes in. If Ashley sticks with him it’s a signal to them that they can either grow up and put in some graft, or ****** off.
SolanosTrumpet(Quote)
Would everyone start panicking if Wigan beat Arsenal? 😯
Troy Stavers(Quote)
20% of our passes are long balls.
18 of Stokes passes are long balls. And people tell me they play hoof football. 😆 The only difference is that Stoke are better at it. 15 set piece goals.
The states would also suggest that Pardew likes to get the ball wide, because we have the fourth least possession in the middle of the pitch. So it makes sense that he would want someone who can actually cross the balland someone who can head the ball from those crosses.
We get the second most crosses of any team into the box. Most long diagnal balls 594. 119 of those crosses were accurate and we scored 17 goals.
So if we simply employed his same tactics and we had someone with good aerial ability and got someone who could deliver more accurate crosses into the box, I’d assume we’d perform better under his tactics?
It makes sense to me, but maybe I’m crazy…
JJ(Quote)