Walking the dog.

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Just taken the dogs for a walk in the lovely morning sunshine and got to thinking about possible outcome at Newcastle and wondering about what Ashley is up to. Bearing in mind that I think he is a rational businessman not some petty thieving antichrist out to make Geordies miserable). Here’s what I came up with.

Out for a walk!
Out for a walk!

Obviously management realise that cheaper players live in continental Europe, therefore they choose a coach like De Boer, Tuchel, etc who has experience with such players and can implement a whole-of-club playing style. They also want somebody who can turn Newcastle into something akin to an Ajax style academy. The relationship with coach and DoF works as planned (ie they decide mutually on the type of player they want.), They bring on youth players, and sell for great profits to finance new purples.

[Now for the bit where everybody groans]

Let’s suppose that Ashley is being very canny. He’s taken a few risks (some worked, some didn’t) but he now has the club stable in the mid-upper half of the table but moving into profit and able to finance itself. The 5year plan has finally come to fruition, a few years later than projected. The coach has kept the desired stability within the required parameters (what some call lack of ambition).

It’s now time to embark on the next 5 year plan – moving to the new level, expansion into new markets, raising the club brand (and SD’s with it). It’s a couple of seasons on from the coach appointment. Almost every team in the PL has a vast debt, but Newcastle are rolling in tv profits.

They are cashed up and almost completely immune to any changes in the world economy. His investment is secure and ready to pounce when the opportunity arises.

This to me seems a reasonably rational scenario. Probably not right (and let me hastily add that I’m neither yaying or naying at it here), but it’s an alternative way of looking at what’s gone on, rather than the blind accusations of greedy, filthy, pig-dog, ambitonless, rip-off asset-stripping piece of ****.

Unfortunately for fans, it’s a more of the same for a few years.. I doubt whether we are factored into the long-term plan.

Just thought I’d share that little thought with you.

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  1. BBC Cumbria report that a behind closed doors friendly at Darsley Park on Tuesday saw a Newcastle United XI beat their Carlisle United counterparts 3-1.

    The game was arranged to give some pitch time to a trio of returning Magpies, with Siem De Jong, Mehdi Abeid and Gabriel Obertan all included in the starting lineup.

    A day short of his 26th birthday, De Jong completed 45 minutes and found the net, equalising after Mark Beck had beaten Freddie Woodman to put the Cumbrians ahead.

    Further goals from Lubo Satka and Jonathyn Quinn then won it for the Magpies, with Adam Armstrong failing from the penalty spot.

    Abeid and Obertan were both withdrawn midway through the second half while Jonas Gutierrez completed the full 90 minutes.

    The likes of Gael Bigirimana and Haris Vuckic were also involved but Rolando Aarons didn’t feature.

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  2. BB – Maybe that’s what he needs to see that the squad just isn’t up to standard and short in areas.

    After all it did make him put his hands in his pockets last time we were threatened with relegation.

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  3. If Freddy Woodman is on the NUFC books, then I fail to see how he can just up sticks and follow his father, should he ship out to Crystal P at the end of the season.
    Is he not under contract like ?

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  4. The sad thing is if we stay in this league Ashley will keep all the profits to himself. Season after season we will sell are best players for a profit and do enough just to get by.

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  5. Stuart – well he only has until Feb 2nd mate, then we go with what we have.
    He is probably gambling that we have enough with the players returning from injury.
    But it is nearly time for Colos seasonal injury. Then what ❓

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  6. Once the interest free loan has been payed off, surely it will be time for **** Dirt to start paying the club for its advertising. Or will that continue to be free indefinitely ?

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  7. Well Charver it is until summer with unspoken promises of some great continental fotballing head coach in the dug out for next season just to make sure the great gullible geordie public continue with their season ticket renewals.
    Would it be too much to ask Mike’s glorified lackey – sorry our MD to confirm soon that a job offer made and contracts signed for a new head coach to arrive in summer, or do they plan their usual hgh risk strategy of wait and see,hope for the best with fingers crossed and hope that Carver will avoid relegation, do a reasonable job and then give him the job as a compliant patsy paying him just enough to keep him in beer and pies?
    I’m hopeful they have found someone who can’t or won’t move until summer. They ahve a track record of sitting tight for players so I’m hoping for the best. Otherwise it’s Charver – remember the guy who abused fans who had travelled all the way to Southampton only a few months back?
    Atmosphere dead, club going no where, empty shell of a club with no ambition beyond skimming off the TV dosh and promoting **** direct.
    What a joyless abomination of a club we have become with a compliant brain washed set of supporters who are either reasonably happy or shrug their shoulders in apathy waiting for Mike to sell up. At least the jocks have a bit more fight in them.
    Anyway good luck to Carver. At least some of the players want him (according to club propaganda) so hopefully we will get the necessary ponts we need and some decent performances for the rest of the season.

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  10. So that’s £5m for Mbiwa, £3.5m compo for Percy, wow £8.5m already and he ain’t even flogged Sissoko yet 😉

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  11. IS Ryder for real ‘Are Newcastle allowing apathy to set in?’ Has he been living in a cave down at the coast? Apathy set in a long time ago that’s why fatman is still here

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  12. Too right KimToon. NUFC coffers are swelling by the day. Shame he has the bloody safe padlocked and won’t allow the club to reinvest it’s money in the squad.
    How’s life?

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  13. GDeb, I’m actually shocked at that article, they been doing that much sucking up since being let back in, I never expected an article like that .

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  16. Not surprised it’s Carver, I’m still confident we can survive, even if it’s just limping past the finish line.

    Obviously we were safer with Pardew, but we should be safe bar an injury crisis (yep this is NUFC so I’m fully expecting that to hit shortly..) I’m yet to be convinced that Carver is this attacking phenom that some labelled him as because Cabella happened to have a good day against Chelsea – couldn’t possibly be a player adjusting to the rough style of the EPL could it…Anyway, fingers crossed, let’s get some wins on the board sharpish so we can all relax and then just have moaning when our form slumps (with nothing to play for) and more talk of mid table mediocrity through until the summer! 😉

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  17. BB @153
    Not sure if we have offered Freddy Woodman a contract yet .
    He was on the books of Crystal Palace until his dad came to Newcastle.
    If we have not tied him down ,and his dad does join Pardew at Palace , there has to be concern that Freddy will be off too.

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  18. Newks, Think he may surprise us all, we weren’t too bad v Saints either and at least we had a go . I would rather we went down fighting in a game than keep on the back foot hoping to score late on which rarely paid off.

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  20. KT – coughs and colds everywhere and lingering on, awful for you both. Haven’t been on here much recently. Unfortunately niece was rushed into ICU just before xmas, and sadly died a few days ago, only 25 tragic situation. Certainly put all my rantings and ravings regarding Newcastle’s woes into persepctive for me but in another way it makes you want to rail against the collective apathy the supporter base find themselves in. Life passing by in a haze of mediocrity and lack of ambition. This was once a fiercely proud and passionate supporter base and yet we have allowed ourselves to become a washed out version of our former selves sitting meekly and grateful for scraps from the big mans table. Drives me insane

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  21. KT 169 – thought PSG were quoted as saying earlier in the month that he wasn’t the right calibre of player for them? Sounds desperate to go anywhere.

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  22. Kim – did we have a go though? Saints were as poor as I’ve seen them play this season and we managed virtually no shots against Forster. Two balls over the top put our entire back line and Krul to shame and made them all look like clowns. As much as people like to blame Williamson – every one of that back four were woeful.

    Just like most teams, our good play will develop initially from one or two bits of magic from one or two players, which will lead to confidence and wins. It’s how football works for most teams in most divisions, confidence is always the key. Confidence comes from winning, and that’s why I’d always take the win first over a “good display” and a loss on any given saturday.

    PS. Solano – Howay man, this must be as sad as I’ve seen you! I know we’ve been proven right with our prediction (apologies all, it feels like almost everyone has said this on a weekly basis for going on a year, so I thought I’d throw mine in too 😆 ) but do not despair, we’ll be safe *touch wood*… 😉

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  23. KT – yep Wendy won’t like the tone of Ryder’s article so unless he makes up with several more sucking up articles the guillotine will be hanging over them soon. He will be overjoyed at the Carver appointment. Few beers down Carvers throat and can see him blabbing his mouth off with lots of material for the Chronicle

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  24. GDeb, My condolences on the loss of your niece, 25 is awful young to die. As you say puts things in perspective. Like you I get angry at the goings on with the Toon, but in the end it is only football even if it means a lot to us.

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  25. Newks yeah I thought we did, should of gotten a draw really, was defo a pen and remember they are top 3 albeit they had injuries, then again so did we.

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  27. Thank God we’ve got John Carter of Mars coming in. I was afraid we’d be stuck with John Carver of Toronto FC.

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  28. Kim
    😉

    Betsy
    I wouldn’t be sure that Mikey will be sweating. I don’t see how there’s going to be much difference in the results. Carver must have been doing the bulk of things with the players during Pards tenure.
    The players seem to like him.

    He only has to achieve mediocrity. I foresee no problems. It’ll be more of the same.

    Let’s hope your predictions are as good as Pardew amd Palace. He’s certainly proving you wrong at the moment. 😉

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  30. Can we please get serious about planning for the last 16 games? Harrumph. There’s a lot of work to do lads. We’ve got to sharpen up Willo’s attacking skills on set pieces. We’ve got to arrange an empty goal for Riviere to shoot at. We’ve got to dig trenches and put in machine gun nests around our goal. Come on lads, get to work!!!

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  33. Imagine him being wheeled up to the microphone with that mask on to announce that Sissoko had been sold. 😯

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  34. Kim – re your Sissoko post, he certainly seems to be pimping himself out mind doesn’t he?!. I hope it’s remembered if he does end up moving in the summer. Like Cabaye and Debuchy, it’s not easy to hold on to your better players when they are so desperate to play CL footy like.

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  35. I’ve also got some advance copies of Mike Ashley’s new book How to Make Millions Out of Football Without Ever Spending a Penny. Fascinating reading I’m sure. Anyone want one?

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  36. Sissoko really must be thick to keep giving interviews to the french press after his comments on Arsenal were twisted beyond recognition, We had this **** with Robert regularly having to apologise to Bobby years ago

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  37. G2 that books going to be a best seller mate. I could imagine a big crowd of toon fan’s lining up outside sports direct to buy it. I want a signed copy, first edition book.

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  38. The next paragraph in Sissokos interview:

    “I’m focused on Newcastle. I still have a four-and-a-half year contract so in my head I tell myself that I’m still here for four years and a half. “I’m appreciated here, I play regularly, we have a good staff and I’m enjoying every weekend. All is well for me.”“My goal was to come to England because I felt it was the championship that best matched my game and I thought I would take the most pleasure from it,”

    “I do not think I’m wrong. So me, I want to stay here and grow in the biggest clubs here in England. This is a championship that I like and where I feel good. “After no one knows what tomorrow will bring. Anything can happen. But I have a preference for the Premier League. I see myself staying here “

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  40. That’s the spirit Terry! I can let you have it on the HP for 7 euros a month. Only 150 easy payments mate!

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  41. Right then. Mike tells me he wants everyone on the lookout for some brilliant, young, cheap, footy wizards that he can sign up. He had to let the entire scouting staff go as it was getting too expensive to pay them. So keep your eyes open mates. Don’t mention they won’t be getting a wage until Mike signs them. Ta in advance.

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  42. Chapter one: Kevin Keegan had to much ambition for my liking
    Chapter two: Dennis Wise know’s how to find expensive rejects
    Chapter three: Keegan leaves because of Dennis Wise
    Chapter four: Putting the club up for sale

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  44. CC – that’s funny, I’ve just read the Echo article again and didn’t see that bit!.
    But people still don’t accept that some of the media have an agenda against Newcastle.

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  46. Where did you get your information Terry? That was all supposed to be a surprise for the supporters. Hmmm. Is there a spy in Mike’s Inner Circle?

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  47. And Sidekick I’m very disappointed in you mate. You should be anxious to relive it over and over (with more than 200 coloured illustrations). Perfect for your coffee table.

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  49. I don’t believe you Terry. We can make you talk. Have you ever had a honey badger in your underpants?

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  53. Sidekick @167 – Thanks for the info on woodman. Didn’t know he wasn’t under contract, but even nufc.com/players has no further info on his status at the club.

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  55. BB – I’ve been reliably informed that Freddy has signed a contract but don’t know how long it is for.

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  56. Ryan Taylor, Jonas Gutierrez, Sammy Ameobi, Jak Alnwick, Adam Campbell, Remi Streete and Lubo Satka are all out of contract in the summer.
    Very surprised we aren’t trying to cash in on any of them in this window, as I’m not sure many of them will be getting a new offer.
    But I clearly know nowt

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  58. Cisse on his way home then…..he went a long way to sit on the bench… Can see Ashley cashing in on Cisse…

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  61. BB –

    Ryan Taylor, Jonas Gutierrez, Sammy Ameobi, Jak Alnwick, Adam Campbell, Remi Streete and Lubo Satka are all out of contract in the summer.

    I reckon Raylor might get an offer of player/coach to help with the young uns.
    Jonas will leave on a free coz they can’t find anyone to buy him and pay the wages he’s on now.
    I reckon Alnwick will be allowed to leave with Darlow coming in. Campbell will probably be allowed to go too with Armaz and Roberts coming through.
    I would hope that contracts will be sorted for Sammy and Aaron’s – they are the main ones for me.
    It would be good to keep Streete and/or Satka (Satka for me). But if we go after Mings and with Lascelles coming in, plus I’ve read we are looking to get Lewis Dunk on a free from Brighton in the summer – so we should be ok there I reckon.

    I’d love to see us land Danny Ings for nowt in the summer too.

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  62. MM – only a fool would sell the only striker we have that is scoring goals……………………………………oh wait, 😕

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  63. Sharpy – You’ve just mentioned a load of young, untried defenders and said if we get them we should be ok. Why? How do we know they’ll be good enough?

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  66. Stu – quite simply, we don’t. But with any signing we make, I’d have thought they would have been well scouted.
    Can Championship defenders step up and be a success in the PL – absolutely.
    Are they likely to be better than Streete, Satka and Willo – from what I’ve seen of them, I believe they would.

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  68. On a purely business move, selling Sissoko for 20 mill is an absolutely fantastic achievement.
    On a footballing perspective it’s absolutely *****, because we all know where the money is going…and it’s not going to be on new players…

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  69. I’d also go after Jack Cork on a free transfer in the summer, as it’s looking increasingly likely that Sissoko will leave.

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  70. Steve McLaren’s Derby team don’t seem to score a lot of goals, grinding wins here and there. Every time I hear the bloke on tv giving interviews he’s forever saying “well we got away with that one”…and similar comments. Hmmmm

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  73. Munich – Derby won again and look pretty good for promotion. What then for us? I doubt he’d leave them in the lurch then Amd if he doesn’t get promoted would he be good enough for us? Can’t win…

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  75. Sharpy @ 216
    Of course championship players can step up to the PL
    Are they likely to be better than our development Lads.
    **** straight they are.
    We have needed to get our young lads game time in the championship for years and have failed both them and the club by the total ineptitude of the club management.
    Clueless indeed

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